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that in all it bears the same Hebrew name which has come down along with it from the remotest antiquity. The word potsherd, which occurs occasionally in the Old Testament, chayrass, BHH (Isaiah, xxx. 14; Job, xi. 8; Ps. xxii. 16), although popularly accepted as a broken piece of any earthen vessel, appears to mean properly a fragment of one of those sagars. Another accomplished Hebrew scholar tells me that although the Hebrew word for potsherd is K^D, chay-rast, he is by no means sure that it is not derived from some Semitic word like sa-char, or sa-gar; for if the letters of chay-rass (Heb.) were transposed they would make say-char.

I am not, as I have said, sufficiently acquainted with Hebrew to form an opinion for mvself, but the antiquity of the name for this peculiar article in the manufacture of earthenware is corroborative of that absence of change which is so remarkable in the potter's art during the revolution of ages, the principal contrivance employed, the potter's wheel, being essentially the same to-day, in Staffordshire and Sevres, as it is described in ancient writings and depicted on the monuments of Egypt. J. Emerson Tenneni.

TamAla AndTambaktjttaka, Sanskrit Words For Tobacco (4,b S. i. 617.) — The word Tamala is undoubtedly good Sanskrit for tobacco, of orthodox usage, or it would not have been introduced by a learned Brahmin, of respectable character, into an Achloka, purporting, to the best of my rtcollection and belief, to have been extracted from one of the Puritans. Will any of your readers to whom I may have communicated the supposed discovery when in India kindly return any memoranda they may have of mine upon the subject. Jaya Deva, the author of the "Mystical Poetry, quoted by Satjah Jatati, was an inhabitant of Bardwan, adjoining the Tamluk District, and Tamala, as applied by him, may have meant tobacco fields, which would tend to confirm the derivation Tamala Mulk, given for the name of the fort and city Tamluk, on the coast near Calcutta. Will Satjam Jatati, who tells us that tobacco is called Tdmrakuttaka, after its foreign name, in Wilson's Dictionary, be good enough to explain what is meant by saying there is no word in Sanskrit for tobacco, and that the word tamala cannot possibly occur in any Sanskrit work?

R. R. W. Eixrs.

Starcross, near Exeter.


(4,h S. i. 462, 662.)

It was with extreme pain and regret that I read the article by Anglo-scotus on this subject. There is no doubt that Mr. Cuming made a mis

take, but after the courteous and convincing communication of Mr. Morgan, the matter might well be allowed to drop; while Mr. Cuming's services to archseology, in exposing the long series of London forgeries, ought to have dictated a very different tone of comment.

This is the more remarkable, as the communication of Anglo-scotds contains some of the strangest errors I ever saw.

1. Ho objects to Mr. Cuming calling the nobleman who was slain at .Dumfries his great ancestor, and quotes the perfectly accurate statement of Mr. Kiddell, that the descendants of that nobleman failed in the direct line. Was, however, the word ancestor ever confined to the direct line alone?

Shakespeare is an authority to the contrary. Take the speech of the Archbishop of Canterbury in Henry V. Act I. Sc. 2.: —

"Gracious Lord,
Stand for your own, unwind your bloody flag,
Look back unto your mighty ancestors.
Go, my dread Lord, to your great grandsire's tomb,
From whom you claim. Invoke his warlike spirit,
And your great uncle's, Edward, the Black Prince."

2. A reference to plate 2, of the arms of the encouragers of his work, in vol. i. of Nisbet's Heraldry, will show that"the crowned and winged heart was the crest of the Dukes of Queensberry.

As wings are also attached to the spur of the Johnstones, I suspect they were originally what Nisbet calls the border, charged with roses of the old Earls of March, viz. a badge of comital office, although they were subsequently adopted, or rather retained, by the families of younger sons.

I have sometimes conjectured that they were allied to the dragon wing of the eastern counties, both being derived from a Danish ensign. Certainly that nation had strong settlements in the eastern counties, while a great number of the local names in Annandale are derived from their language. I, however, throw out this idea merely as a vague guess, which may be true or may not.

Having heard Mr. Cuming read his paper, I can testify that he gave the Douglases of Cavers their proper title. The introduction of the / is simply an overlooked error of the press.

George Verb Bjving.

Having examined MacFarlane's authorities (England, iv. 239), I find he has used the word hearts for harts. The same error is in the Pictorial History of England (ii. 16).

"Shee secretly gane silver and gilt Harts (the badges which King Richard used to bestow upon his followers) as tokens."—Speed, lib. ix. p. 758.

"Fecitque fabricari eervos argenteos ct auratos plurimos (signa videlicet quse rex Ric. conferre solebat suis miliiibus scutiferis et amicis) ut his vice regis distributis, facilius alticftrentur in vota sua milites illius patrita, escterique valentes."—rVaUingham, p. 370.

Not in Otterbourne, i. 248.

"She procured a great number of harts to be made of silver & gold, such as King Richard was woont to gire unto his knights, esquires, & friends, to weare as cognizances, to the end that in bestowing them in King Richard's name she might the sooner allure men to further her lewd practices."—llolinshed, i. 525.

B. T. J.

(4* S. i. 568.)

I possess a silver piece, said to have been engraved by Simon Passe, similar to that described as having been recently found at Grantham. The figure on the reverse, which Mk. J. A. Boase states is Henry Stuart, Prince of Wales, is, I believe, intended for King James's son Charles. The person represented wears a pointed beard of considerable size, and large curled mustachio, and is altogether very unlike a youth of eighteen (Henry was born in 1594, and died in 1612). The medal, if it may be so termed, was, I imagine, engraved at the latter end of the reign of James I., when Charles, Prince of Wales, was twenty-four or twenty-five years of age. The "king's son" on the medal above referred to bears a strong resemblance to King Charles I. as represented on another piece engraved by Passe which I have before me, and is certainly the same person that is depicted in an old oil portrait belonging to me, which I take to be Charles, Prince of Wales. I do- not remember any bearded portrait of Prince Henry, and I think all those exhibited at Kensington in 1866 were beardless. If my supposition is unfounded, I shall be glad to be corrected by Mr. Boase or by any other gentleman who may be able to furnish any information as to the time at which the piece was engraved. E. D. E.

This medalet, which I also possess, I thought until now represented on the reverse the effigy, not of Henry, the eldest son of James I., as stated by Mr. John J. A. Boase, but of the still more hapless Prince Charles (the ill-fated Charles I.) with his peculiarly shaped nose (thick at the end, like his father's), and the well-known tumed-up mustachio and pointed beard. May I be allowed to give my reasons for so thinking P I have lying before me a portraiture of that promising young man Henry, Prince of Wales, a mezzotinto engraving by Diinkarton. The prince is in armour; His head uncovered, in profile, without any beard; the legs outstretched, and making the lance exercise. Underneath is written: —

"Henry Prince of Wales, Eldest Son of King James Irt, Obit Nov' 6th 1612, JSA. 18, from an extreme rare print by S. Pass."

At that age, in fact, he must have been a "beardless Apollo," whereas on the medal the

beard does not "demonstrate thinly," as Iago phrases it. The legends read thus: —


I have besides this the impression of two other heads engraved on silver, somewhat larger and oval-shaped, of James I. and his queen Anne, evidently of the same workmanship. Here the king's head is uncovered, and the collar of the Order of the Garter is of a different pattern. Over the heads is a crown with the initials I. R. and A*. R. Underneath, "Jacobus D. G. Mag. Britt. Fra. & Ilyb. Rex," and " Anna, D. G. Mag. Britt. Fra. & Hyb. Regina."

On the sides "t fe." (Simon Pass). The whole written backtvards, which leads one to suppose that the medal thus engraven was not intended for reproduction on paper. It is very finely executed.

I have several other curious engravings of James I. Amongst others, a small one where ho is represented with "Geo. Villiers, Mar. Buckingham, drawn from the window, and engraved by W. P. Sherlock. Upper compartment of a window in the Chicken House, Hampstead." Under the king's head is written in French: "Icy dans cette chambre coucha nostre Roy Jaques premier de nom le 25 Aoust 1619." Does this window still exist? P. A. L.

St. Thomas A Becket (4th S. i. 604.)—I reply to F. S. A. that a chasuble of St. Thomas is preserved at Courtrai, another at Dixmude, and a set of his vestments at Sens. (See The Life of St. Thomas Becket by Canon Morris, p. 389.) In a former No. of "N. & Q." (2»d S. v. 242) he will find a communication by the undersigned, minutely describing one of the saint's mitres, then in the possession of the late Cardinal Wiseman, and now preserved by his successor Archbishop Manning, and mentioning another of his mitres as still remaining in the cathedral of Sens.

The very interesting old cope formerly belonging to Syon House I carefully examined about twenty years ago, at Alton Towers. It was then in the possession of John, Earl of Shrewsbury. He bequeathed all his magnificent collection of church vestments to the Very Rev. Dr. Rock.

F. C. H.

A-Becket's chasuble is probably at present in the treasury of the Cathedral of Sens, France, where many of his objects are, and where his mitre may likewise be. The "Syon cope" is exhibited at, and is the property of, the South Kensington Museum. "A. S. C.

The chusable of St. Thomas of Canterbury is preserved at Sens Cathedral. In 1164 that prelate was obliged to fly from England and take) refuge in France, where he remained till 1170. Though much injured, enough remains to show the beauty and magnificence of the vestment. A mitre and apparel of the amice belonging to the same set are also preserved. The chusable is annually worn during mass on his festival. Beautiful drawings of these vestments are given by Mr. Shaw in his valuable work, Dresses and Decorations of the Middle Ages.

The cope of the earlier part of the thirteenth century, formerly belonging to the nuns of Syon House, is in the collection of the Earl of Shrewsbury. The hood is lost, but the orphrey is composed of armorial bearings, and on the body the crucifixion of our Lord, SS. Peter and Paul, St Michael the Archangel, St. Stephen, and other saints are beautifully wrought in large intersecting quatrefoils. Papers by Mr. C. H. Hartshorne, giving much curious information on English mediaeval embroidery will be found in the Archceological Journal, i. 334 and iv. 285.

At Aix-la-Chapelle a cope is preserved in the sacristy of the cathedral, with small silver bells attached to the lower edge. This is said to have been worn by Leo III. at the consecration of the church, in the presence of the Emperor Charlemagne, assisted by three hundred and sixty-five bishops. Mr. Walcott (Sacred Archaeology, 183), says one at Canterbury had a little chime of one hundred and forty in 1108, and others sent by William I. to Clugny, or presented by Lanfranc, Ernulph, and Conrad to their minister, were so ornamented. I shall be glad .to hear of other examples. John Piggot, Jun., F.S.A.

Curious Orthographic Fact (4th S. i. 571.)— Will you allow me to answer, as a Frenchman, to the above? The monosyllabic sound which in French may be written in sixteen or seventeen different ways, is an, or en. I send you twentyeight ways of writing it, and I am pretty sure I have not given all: —

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give the eighteen forms which it assumes. They are: sain s, saint s, sainte s (in Sainte Thirese, let saintes vierges), sein s, scigne s, je ceins, ceint «, ceinte s, (<le) cinq. The doubt with me is, if the French have cinqs as they have uns, and as we have Jives at cards, for instance. I only regarded complete words, but I think P. A. L. was right in including syllables. So, to his cin in "capuet'n" I add sin in "sincere,-' and sim in "«»iplicite'," thus bringing the whole number up to nineteen or twenty. Perhaps P. A. L. is aware that the seven forms I mentioned are those of verbs in er, as aimer, aimez, aimai, aimi s, aimie s.

Thos. Keightlet.

Adrian's Address To Hts Soul (4th S. i. 603.) Allow me to correct a mistake of the printer in the Latin of the above. In the original, the first word in the fourth line is "Jallidula," and so I sent it. It is meant for Gelidula, and I have translated it by cold. The printer has made it Pallidula, which finds no correspondingword in my translation. F. C. H.

Dido And ^eneas (4th S. i. 579.)—The lines are by James Smith of Rrjected Addresses fame, and are to be found in his Memoirs, Letters, and Comic Miscellanies, edited by his brother Horace, 1840, vol. ii. p. 193. They are given with slight variations in The Life and Remains of Theodore Hook, by Barham, 1849, vol. i. p. 229, where they are characterised as " Mr. Smith's happiest effort, and are stated to have been sent by the author to Count D'Orsay with the following note: —

"My Dear Count,—Will yon give me Gallic immortality by translating the subjoined into French?"

H. P. D.

Charles II.'s Flight Froh Worcester (4tl1 S. i. 693.)—I had not time to complete a short list of some passages in the Wolverhampton "Boscobel" when I sent my reply, printed on p. 593. I send them now.

At pages 18 and 24 the Lord Wilmot who attended the king, and was afterwards Earl of Rochester, is confounded with his son. "This nobleman was the famous and dissolute Earl of Rochester." (P. 24.) He was father of that noted person.

At p. 24 the vale of Evesham is described as the vale of Esham. At p. 39 the two well-known lines out of Drunken Barnaby's Itinerary are misquoted thus: —

"He hung his cat on Monday .

For killing a mouse on Sunday."

The writer makes no mention of Drunken Barnaby's Itinerary. At p. 28 we read : — " Trent House .... is situated in Somersetshire, though bordering on the skirts of Devonshire." It is really situated on the other side of the county, "on the skirts of Dorsetshire."

At page 48 we read:—" The next year, 1663y witnessed the rupture with Holland. The Dutch fleet triumphantly sailed up the Thames and burnt the ships of war which lay at Chatham."

This seems to give 1663 as the date of the first Dutch triumph. It occurred in June, 1G07.

The retaining such matter as this in the second edition, from which I quote, is not in favour of the book.

I wish to add to what I said of Mr. Hughes's careful editing, that I hold several of his opinions, expressed in his Introduction, in the utmost disbelief and aversion.

Some readers of "N. & Q." may not know that the late Bishop Copleston suggested to Mr. Hughes that he should make the collection of Boscobel Tracts. Bishop Copleston's letter, laying down, with the finest criticism, the rules which should guide a person who investigates a history such as this, is printed in Mr. Hughes's Introduction.

D. P.

Stuarts Lodge, Malvern Wells.

Parish Registers (401 S. i. 477, 582.)—I conaider that the public are deeply indebted to the correspondents of " N. & Q." who have so emphatically referred to the subject of preserving our parochial and other public registers. I am not in a condition to add to what your correspondents have written respecting the parish records of England, but I have had occasion, while prosecuting some important inquiries, to search many public records throughout Scotland and Ireland. The Scottish Parish Registers of Births, Marriages, and Deaths are now deposited in the General Register House, Edinburgh, where they have been well bound and conveniently arranged; but they exhibit numerous blanks consequent on the imperfect custodiership of the past. The Kirk Session and Presbytery records are still retained in the houses of the several clerks, and are generally kept without .the least regard to their national importance. To my knowledge they are frequently offered for sale with the private libraries of their custodiers, when ignorant survivors proceed to realise their effects. Synod records are kept as indifferently. The earlier records of the General Assembly were lost; they were afterwards found and deposited in the library of Sion College, and being temporarily removed to St. Stephens', Westminster, perished in the conflagration of the Houses of Parliament.

These belong to the jurisdiction of tho ecclesiastical courts. But there other public records in Scotland which are kept as badly or worse. Will it be credited that the Sheriff Court records, which contain so many entries bearing on the rights of property, are in many counties degraded into dingy and filthy cellars, where they are suffering rapid and sure decay? Even where they have been arranged in presses they have been permitted to suffer from the damp of uniired chambers. The

Town Council and Guildry records are generallybetter kept, but hundreds of these volumes are also in a state of decay.

In Ireland most of the parish registers have been lost. The Cathedral records are kept in the buildings, and have generally contracted mildew. The records of the Presbyterian churches, I believe, are better kept, yet most imperfectly. • Of the records of the Irish Roman Catholic Church. I know nothing. The records of the Prerogative or Probate Courts are, I admit, in a more satisfactory state, though all the original wills are not forthcoming.

A remedy is simple. Let a competent judicious individual be appointed, with a staff of assistants, to negotiate the proper preservation of the different records in England, Scotland, and Ireland, and under his direction let indices, &c. be prepared. I will return to this subject again.

Charles Roobbs, LL.D. Snowdoun Villa, Lewisham, S.E.

Tombstone Inscriptions (4,b S. i. 581.) —In reply to the query of T. P. F. I beg to state that the application by friction of a piece of sandstone to the surface of a tombstone will remove every incrustation, and render any inscription perfectly legible. In the course of preparing my still unfinished work on the churchyards of Scotland I adopted the method now suggested on several hundred tombstones, and always with a satisfactory result. The sandstone should be soft and friable. A very .little rubbing is required. The surface should "then be carefully brushed.

Charles Rogers, LL.D. Snowdoun Villa, Lewisham, S.E.

Cave Op Adf/llam (3"1 S. x. 341.)—I do not know whether the following use of this expression has been before noted; but it will be seen that it dates prior to Mr. Bright's use of it: —

"The determined band who did this daring deed [murdered Cardinal Beatoun] kept possession of the castle. They were joined by many friends. The Castle of St. Andrews became a Cave of Adullam, in which numbers who feared the tyranny of the government sought shelter. John Knox, whose life the priests eagerly sought, took refuge there anions; the rest."—Mackenzie's History of Scotland. Nelson, 1863.

T. T. W.

Ceremonial At Induction (4th S. i. 484,565.) It may be interesting in connection with this topic to make a note of the ceremonial observed in the Episcopal Church of North America at the "induction or institution of ministers into parishes or churches." For this a special office is provided in the American Prayer-book. A clergyman, standing within the altar-rails, acts as institutor, in whose presence the senior warden, or some other member of the vestry, presents the keys of the church to the new incumbent with appropriate words. After sundry prayers, the incumbent is received within the altar-rails, and has presented to him the Bible, Book of Common Prayer, and-Books of Canons of the General Convention. Suitable prayers and a sermon follow, the service concluding with the administration of the Lord's Supper by the new incumbent.

Juxta Turrim.

The Living Skeleton, Claude Ambroise Seurat (4,h S. i. 484.)—Your correspondent will find a short notice of Seurat in Debay's llistoire Naturel.'e, p. 174. This refers to an examination of him in France at the end of the year 1832, when he was thirty-four years old. His weight is given as forty-three pounds (French), and his height five feet three inches. Hone's account of hini is far more complete than Debay's. The two authors do not agree as to the date of his birth. Debay has it April 4, 1798. In the third series of Dr. Buckland s Curiosities of Natural History (vol. ii. p. 91), an article from The Field newspaper, signed "H. G., Paris," is reproduced. It contains an account of Seurat, who was then, in 1833, performing at Dinan in Brittany. The nature of his entertainment seems to have been the rope trick, lately made so notorious by the Davenport Brothers: only that, in lieu of ropes, he made use of chains. How such a lean creature as Seurat—who, according to Hone, was almost entirely devoid cf muscles—managed to perform this trick with success, will appear to those who are acquainted with the mode of operation a puzzle. Perhaps, however, he too was in league with the spirits! It is further mentioned that Seurat had promised his body after death to the Hotel Dieu at Paris. He must have changed his mind, therefore, after he left England. I have not yet been able to ascertain the date of his death. Who knows whether the poor fellow may not still be going the round of the French fairs P Gilbert R. Redgrave.

"jackdaw Of Rheims " (4th S. i. 577.) —From Mb. Skeat's communication it would appear not to be generally known that the incident so humorously narrated by Barham has been told as a grave and striking fact. In the Sorbieriana is this paragraph: —

"Janus Nicins Crylraui relates that a certain pope had a tame raven, which secreted the pope's ring or annulut pitcatvrit. The pope, thinking that some one had committed the robbery, issued a bull of excommunication against the robber. The raven grew very thin, and lost all his plumage. On the ring being found and the excommunication taken off, the raven recovered his flesh and his plumage."—French Anas, i. 168.

William E. A. Axon.

Joynson Street, Strangeways.

Skelp (4th S. i. 485, 587.)—Mb. Walter W. Skeat's exposition of the word skelp and its meanings suggests the probable origin of the name of the extraordinary cleft or ravine in the Wicklow

mountains, known as " the Skalp." This singular chasm is an abrupt, narrow, and precipitous rift in the otherwise unbroken chain of hills, and its local designation is probably as old as the Danish occupation of that part of Ireland now referable to some of those terms of the Norsemen of which Mr. Skeat has given illustrations in the Icelandic skelfa and the Danish skicelue.

There is a second locality in Ireland which bears the name of " Soalp," between Gort and Loughrea, in the county of Qalway; but whether there is any similar geological peculiarity to identify the name, I am not able to say.

J. Emerson Tenneni.

Marvellous Stories Of Sharks (3,d S. xii348, 470.)—See further, Keil & Delitzsh, Commentary on the Twelve Minor Prophets, "Jonah," translated by Martin (Edinburgh, 1867) : —

"The great fish was not a whale, because this is extremely rare in the Mediterranean, and has too small a throat to swallow a man; but a large shark or sea-dog, Cams carcharias, or Squalus carcharias, L., which is very common in the Mediterranean, and has so large a throat that it can swallow a living man whole. Okcn mentions that in the year 1758 a sailor fell overboard and was immediately taken into the jaws of a sea-dog and disappeared. The captain, however, ordered a gun, which was standing on deck, to be discharged at the shark, and the ball struck it, so that it vomited up the sailor that it had swallowed, who was then taken up alive, and very little hurt, into the boat that bad been lowered for his rescue."


The Prior's Pastoral Staff (4,h S. i. 592.)— If the objects inquired for by P. are really "mallets," I can offer no explanation. But I am inclined to think that they are heraldic representations of the staff used by the "rectores chori," or directors of the choir. I have an impression of the seal of a cantor of the diocese of Ferns, with this legend—" * s. Oalfbidi Cantobis Fbrnensis"— on which the staff is represented like St. Anthony's cross; or a letter T, but with a bar slightly projecting half way down the stem, and the lower half terminating in a point. F. C. 11.

Rudee: Defame: Bibre (4,h S. i. 14, 84.)— 1. A. H. has apparently forgotten that Wiclif translated from the Vulgate. This, in St. Matt ix. 16, has commissuram panni rudis, and rudee looks like one of Wiclif's Latinate words, unless the Sussex rudy=rude (Halliw. Diet.) represent a word older than Wiclif's age, and the first form of our rude. In St. Mark ii. 21 (the only other place where we find rudis in the Vulgate N.T.)— panni rudis assumentum is translated " a pacche of newe clothe." But there must be a variation in Wiclif's versions. In that given in Bagster's Engl. Hexapla the words of St. Matt. ix. 16 are "a cloute of boistous clooth,'- as to which word the Prompt. Parv. gives boystows (or clubbyd= rudis); and in a note elsewhere it is said to mean

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