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Quest. Wherefore didst thou sing to him?
Answ. My conscience tells me I have not offended any law.
Quest. Was that letter thine f and didst thou spread thy garments iefore him?
Answ. Yea, and my blood will maintain it.
Quest. Dost thou own him for the Prince of Peace?
Answ. Yea, he is so.
Qwst. What dost thou call his name?
Answ. It hath been said already, I have told of his name.
Quest. Dost thou not know it to be blasphemy to give him such
anu such attributes?
Answ. If I have offended any law, &c.
Quest. Didst thou send him that letter wherein he was called the Son ifGod?
Answ. Yea, I do own the whole letter.
Quest. Didst thou call him Jesus?
Answ. .-She would not answer.
Quest. Didst thou kiss his feet?
Thomas Stranger's examination.
HE owneth the postscript of the letter, in which he calleth Jamei Nayler Jesus; but could not be got to answer to any more questions, any further, than, If I have offended any law. He confesseth he called James Nayler Jesus, and saith he was thereto moved of the Lord.
Timothy Wedlock's examination.
Quest. DOST thon own James Nayler to be the only Son of God?Answ. I do own him to be the >onof God.
Quest. Wherefore didst thou and the rest sing before him,' Holy, holy, holy, Lord God of Israel?' Answ. I do own the songs of Sion.
Quest. Thou wilt go through a great rain bare-headed, why then wilt thou not be uncovered to a magistrate?
Answ. What I did was as the Lord commanded.
Quest. What is your opinion concerning religion?
Answ. I own no opinions, nor any judgements.
Quest. Wherefore didst thou honour him in towns, and not elsewhere.
Answ. We did as well in Commons; but in both, as the spirit of the I ord directed us.
Quest. Wherefore didst thou kneel before him?Answ. The truth.
Dorcas Erbury, the widow of William Erbury, once a minister, but a seducing quaker, htr examination.
Quest. WHERE dost thou lve? Answ. With Margaret Thomas. Vol. vi. E e Quest. Wherefore didst thou sing'Holy, &c.
Amw. I did not at that time; but those that sang did it in discharging of their duty.
Quest. Dost thou own him that rode on horse-back to be the holy one of Israel.
Answ. Yea, I do; and with my blood will seal it.
Quest. And d"st thou own him for the Son of God?
Answ. Hi- is the onlv begotten Son of God.
Quest. Wherefore didst thou pull off his stockings, and lay thy cloaths beneath his feet?
Amw. He is worthy of it; for he is the holy Lord of Israel.
Quest. Knewest thou no other Jesus, the only begotten Son of God?
Amw. I know no other Saviour.
Quest. Dost thou believe in James Nayler?
Answ. Yea, in him whom thou callestso, I do.
Quest. By what name dost thou use to call him?
Answ. The Son of God; but I am to serve him, and to call him Lord and Master.
Quest. Jesus was crucified; but this man you call the Son of God, is alive?
Answ. He hath shook off his carnal body. Quest. Why, what body hath he then?
Answ. Say not the Scriptures, Thy natural body I will change, and it shall be spiritual?
Quest. Math a spirit flesh and bones?Answ. His flesh and bones are new.
Quest. Christ raised those that had been dead; so did not he.
Amw. He raised me.
Qiust. In what manner.
Answ. He laid his hand on my head, after I had been dead two days, and said, Dorcas, arise; and I arose,and live as thou seest. Quest. Where did he this? Answ. At the gaol in Exeter. Quest. What witness hast thou for this? Answ. My mother, who was present.
Quest. His power being so much, wherefore opened he not the prison doors, and escaped?
Answ. The doors shall open, when the Loid's work is done.
Quest. What apostles hath he?
Answ. They are scattered, but some are here.
Quest. Jesus Christ doth sit at the right-hand of the Father, where the world shall be judged by him.
Answ. He, whom thou callest Nayler, shall sit at the right-hand of the Father, and shall judge the world with equity.
Herefollowetha relation concerning one of his companions.
ONE of James Nayler's disciples, having attained to some knowledge in the French tongue, went over into France to a city called Bouxdeaux, where, after entering into a congregation of the Protestants, he began, after his wonted manner here in England, to cry out, in the open congregation, against the minister, calling him conjurer, lyar, impostor, deceiver; and the elders and people being astonished at the novelty, and reputing him a madman, came and told him, That they had laws in France to protect the congregations, either of papists or protectants, from any disturbance; and thrust him forth of their church.
Upon which,he went into the church yard,a lid,upon a stone, continued his discourse, which drew the whole congregation out of the church, after him, and caused the minister to give over; and the elders, coming again to him, told him, that, he being a stranger, they were willing to favour him; but, seeing he did continue his disturbance, they would commit him to justice; he told them, justice was never in that place until his appearance.
Upon that, they took him away to the governor; where, being brought, with his baton, he asked the governor what he was; who told him, he was the governor of that place under the King of France. He said, that he would not answer him as governor, his government being carnal. Anda certain bishop being with the governor, who was a papist.desiring that he might question him.and demanding what he was', he told him, he was an Engl ishman,and suit of theLord to prepare his way. He demanded of the bishop what he was; who told him,he was a bishop; whereupon he replied, that against him he was sent, who was one of the locusts that was sent forth of the bottomless pit; and that the weapons he had with him werefitted to destroy him and the whole kingdom of Antichrist, who was held in darkness and blindness; and that h" was to pour out vials of the Father's wrath upon him. The governor of Bourdeaux, perceiving several of the people to be infected with his doctrine, demanded if there was any ship ready to sail for England; which being informed of, he therein shipped him, being not willing to use extremity to a stranger, but caused some six or seven, who had been infected with his doctrine, to be whipped through the streets.
A relation concerning some others of the tame tribe.
SEVEN or eight others went over in a vessel to New-England, where, being arrived, they began tospread themselves; but the governor, having notice, caused them to be clapped up close in a castle, and would not suffer any one to come tosee them under penalty of five pounds. In the mean time, he sent for the master of the ship that brought them, and commanded him immediately to carry them back into old England, which, he refusing, was also clapped up close prisoner, until he consented, and took them a-board again.
Now, reader, I shall close up all with a word or two of his life and actions.
JAMES NAYLER is a man of so erroneous and unsanctified a disposition, that it is hard to say, whether heresy or itnpudency beareth tha greater rule in him; as will appear.
First, In what he testifieth before sufficient witnesses ; see the 'Brief relation of the Northern Quakers,' page 22, That he was as holy, just, and good, as God himself. And,
Secondly, That he, in a Utter to one in Lancaster, expresly saith, That, he that expected to be saved by Jesus Christ that died at Jerusalem, shall be deceived Sec Mr. Billingsly's Defence of the Scriptures, page 16". The perfect Pharisee, page 8. And so said another ol that sect: lie was not such a fool, as to hope to be saved by Jesus Christ that died at Jerusalem sixteen-hundied years ago. See Mr. Farmer's Mystery of Godliness and Ungodliness. Thus they glory in their ignorance, and count that foolishness which is the true wisdom.
Thirdly, In a letter I had in my possession, but now lent to a friend, subscribed by the pastor, and other members of that congregation in the north, whereof Nayhr once was a member, till, for his apostasy, he was excommunicated, it is offered to be proved, and by them testified to be true, that one Mrs. Roper, her husband being gone on some occasion from her, a long voyage, this Nayler frequented her company, and was seen to dandle her upon his knee, and kiss her lasciviously; and, in that time of his society with her, she was brought to bed of a child, when her husband had been absent seven and forty weeks, to a day, from her; and, on a time, he was seen to dance her in a private room; and,having kissed her very often, she took occasion to say, Now, James, what would the world say if they should see us in this posture? To which he said somewhat, but he was so low, that it could not be heard. This was objected against him, but he denied to answer it before the said church ; objecting. That he would not speak to them, that spoke not immediately by the spirit.
Fourthly, In that, when 1 had discourse with him concerning perfect perfection, at the Bull and Mouth, he said, 1 was a lyar to say he owned it; then 1 proved it from his own writings, as that he said, they that say they have faiih, and their life is not the life of Christ,and them that say they have faith, and yet they cannot be saved from their sins but in part in this world, them and their faith 1 deny, &c. To which he hypocritically said, that I was a lyar to say that he owned it in himself, though he disowned it in others. And, when I had objected any thing against what he said,he would deny it as soon as he had spoke it; which, to convince the people of his lying deceits, J desired them that stood by me, to remember that he said, All that are in the world are of the world, in direct opposition to that saying of Christ,John xvii. 'I pray not, holy Father, that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but preserve them from the evil of the world'; which 1 presently accused him with, for which he called me lyar; for he said, he said not so. I then desired them that heard him to testify to the truth, against the lyar and his deceit, which they did; but his seared impudence was such, that he said, should a thousand say so, they were all lyars; with much more to the like effect.
For his character.
HE is a man of a ruddy complexion, brown hair, and slank, hanging a little below his jaw.bones; of an indifferent height; not very long visagetl, nor very round; close shaven; a sad down look, and melancholy countenance; a little band, close to his collar, wilh no band strings; his hat hanging over his brows; his nose neither high nor low, but rising a little in the middle.
Something concerning some others of them also.
DISBOROUGH, not much inferior to Nayler himself, attempting to lie with one Rebeccah (who was first seduced to be, and then was of their heresy) she asked him, what his wife would say if she should know what he attempted? Disborough replied, that he gave her the same liberty that he took himself (that was, to be a whore, as he was a whoremaster) but, in short, he havingobtainedhis desire of her, she asked him, how if she should prove with child? He answered, she must be content to be numbered with the transgressors, and to make her grave wilh the wicked (so that he followed not that light which is pure, but sinned against knowledge) as she, the said Itebeccah, as bewailing her sin, contused unto one Mr. White, a Lincolnshire gentleman, to whom she added, that Nayler attempted to defile her also; so that, instead of perfect saints, they are rather perfect sophisters.
This relation under the said gentleman's hand, and the aforementioned letter from the church, whereof Nayler was once a member, were offered to be proved and made good, in the publick meeting at the Bull and Mouth, to Nayler's face, more than once or twice, who was unable to say aught unto it, but left his standing, and sat down silent. They, that offered it so to publick trial, were, one Mr. Persitall, and Mr. John Deacon, author of the publick discovery of their secret deceit.
Some of their opinions are these:
1. THEY deny the scriptures are the word of God.
2. They esteem their own speakings to be of as great authority.
3- They hold it unlawful to expound or interpret the Scriptures. 4. They say, that he, that preaches by a text of Scripture, is a conj urer.
5. That the holy letter is carnal.
6". That the bible ought to be burned.
7. That Jesus Christ inhabits in their flesh as man.
8. Some have said, that Christ never ascended into heaven. 9. That to pray, that their sins may be pardoned, is needless.
10. They believe not that there is another world.
11. Some of them deny the resurrection.
12. That they cannot sin, but that they are perfect. 33. They make no distinction of persons.
A friend of mine being desirous to be resolved of a doubt; as, whetherthat which was reported, of that heretical sect, were more than they erred in, or less than they erroneously maintained contrary to the truth? He went unto their meeting, within Aldersgate, where he had no sooner entered that synagogue of Satan, but the then speaker (name