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Members in that House. (Hear!) "They were the Memoirs, it was said, Sir J. NBWPORT was of opinion, that Ministers were raising up dangers: of a Lady of Pleasure. Now if the principle of judging by isolated facts for Ireland which no man living could calculate the consequences of. against the character of ar association was applied to the University Club, (Hear, hear :). He commented on the conflicting opinions of the Irish would not the inference be, that'its members dealt in Joose books, and Attorney General and the Under Secretary of State, the former of whom rejected the Bible? And yet it was on such unworthy principles ibat contended that the Irisli Priests were a' calumniated body of men, who had the Hønse of Commons were called upon to legislate against the Catholic mainly contributed to the tranquillity of their country, while the latter Association. (Hear!) The disabilities under which the Catholics affirmed that they exercised a baleful and malignant influence! (Hear, laboured created the associations complained of ; but if the House adopted hear') The Caibolic population was rapidly increasing, while the Prothe mischietous measure onder consideration, he feared it would produce testant population was diminisbing the formere was now as 6 out of 73 the most disastrous consequences. (Hear, hear!) in
and they had much better now! grant the claims which it would be in: The ChanceLLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER was of opinion that, setting aside possible long to withhold. (Cheers.) all party feelings, it was very doubtful whether the Catholic claims could Mr. V. FITZGBRALD was convinced that the Association were justified be carried at the present moment; for there existed very strong prejudices in mach which they had said and done, though he felt alarm at all Assoagainst them- No, no, from the Opposition); and a great portion of ciations. ... those prejudices arose from the existence of thie acts of the Catholic Asso- Lord ALTHORP contended that the proper mode of putting down the ciation. (Cheers). It is true that on one occasion a bill for their emanci- Association was by redressing the wrongs of the Irish nation.r' (Heary pation did pass this House ; but it was carried by a very small majority; hear!) No man could believe that six millions of people would remain and the feelings against it continued to be very strong in the other House long in their present condition : while there were grievances to complain of Parliament. There was also another very powerful body who were of, there would be Associations to obtain relief, whatever miglit be the opposed to it, ab imo pectore-he meant the Clergy. (Laughter). But law. it did not follow that these impressions would last for ever. The Goverda Mr. W. LAMB spoke strongly against the Catholic Association, and apment was not inattentive to the state of Ireland. They had enquired and proved of the bill for its suppression. were still pursuing enquiry into the existing abuses, and they could not Sir F. BORDETT made various pertinent observations on the remarks suffer the existence of a formidable body wielding that power which which had beeu urged against the passage in the Address of the Catholic should only exist in the Government. He was the sincere advocate of Association, in which the people of Ireland were called upon to be peaceemancipation, which had no greater enemy than the Association.- able “ by the hatred which they bore to the Orangemen;" and he asked, (Hear, hear!).
what would those who talked of Jesuitical casuistry hare said, if the Mr. Home said, that this night's discussion elicited so much, that he expression biad been, “ By the reverence and respect you owe to Orange thought the question was not; as yet, more than half debated. (Hear, hear, men--by that affection you bear them, we entreat you," &c. (Much and laughter). He would therefore propose that the debate be adjourned laughter.) It was quite an original and modern doctrine to object to this till to-morrow..
expression of hate. The glorious lines of Burns were Mr. Canning did not object, and the House then adjourned. at one iri' is By oppressions, woes, and pains, "! o'clock.
« By your sons in servile' chains" Tuesday, February 15.
And the Leaders of the Association appealed to the same natural sentiPETITION AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CLAIMS.
ments, though not for the purposes of violence, but for order and peace. Mr. DICKINSON presented a petition from the Clergy of the Archdeaconry It was indeed altogether unjustifiable to criticise cvery little expression of Bath against the Catholic Claims, which complained of the violence, which fell from a man whose heart was bursting with the wrongs of his superstition, tyranny, &c. of the Church of Romes and of the Irish | country! (Hear, hear!) The Catholic Association had proved itself Catholics, for insulting and ill using their Protestant countrymen! Mr. the organ of the Nobility, Gertry, Merchants, and Peasantry of Ireland D. said, be bad quite made up his mind against any further concessions to of six-sevenths in fact of the population. It'was not confined to Catholics, the Catholics; and Sir THOMAS LETHBRIDGE expressed his bigla satis. for among its supporters was Earl Fitzwilliam, a name which no man, faction at this arowal of his Somersetshire Colleague, and his firm como whatever his party, could mention without veneration, for the unbounded viction, that the great bulk of the people of England, not the low, | benevolence, courage, and generosity of his character! While such names vile, and senseless, but those who were entitled to the highest conside were found aidiog the Association, it was impossible not to feel that it ration, pamely, the Clergy, &c. were of opinion that the Catholic Claims did not merit those aspersions which Hon. Members had thought fit to should not be conceded.Sir M. W. RIDLEY expressed his sorrow that throw upon it. (Hear, hear!) The Association sought only to obtain
and so unjust ; and Mr. C.H. HUTCHINSON warned the Somerset Members had go motive for spending its funds fruitlessly; it was rather a Committee against presenting such libels in future upon the Irish Catholics; for å of Justice, than anything else. They procured evidence for the Jury, and petition, he said, more fraught with falsehood and marked with intem appealed to the Courts and was this to be termed prejudging? No ; it perance and indecency, he had never before witnessed. Such petitions, was the fairest and most open course that could be pursued. If the proadded the patriotic Member, presented against six millions of people, posed bill passed, Ilie Association would submit, but they boped to be could only tend to exasperation, and were calculated to shake the kingdom heard at the bar of the House before it passed into a law. (Hear, hear!) to its foundation. (Hear, hear? -The MEMBERS for SOMERSET denied Sir Francis lamented the unnatural junction in the Cabinet, which 'bad that the petition was libellous, but only firm and strong, as, they ayerred, caused the Government to stand still on a question where the interests of it ooght to be on such an occasion. It was ordered to be printed.' millions were concerned-he regretted that the enlightened portion of it CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION-ADJOURNED DEBATE.
had submitted to the dark, and allowed the darkness to oversladow the Sir R. Wilson contended that the Association was a defensive, not an land. The feeling which could keep men together in such an administraaggressive body, and that it ought not to be put down by such a measure tion, 'must be, no doubt, one of pure patriotism-an ardent devotion to the as ibe present, which would only tend to extirpate hope, and plant in its interests of their country! The two Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite (Mr. stead the bitter tree of discord. No friend to civil and political liberty
Canning and Mr. Plunkett) had devoted themselves for the public good. conld oppose the claims of the Catholics to an equal portion in the general
Their sacrifice was greater than the Decii of old, for there only one Consul rights.
immolated himself, but here there were two! (Cheers.) The differences Mr. LOCKHART apprebended that further concessions to the Catholics
in the Administration npon the Catholic and other important questions might end in the destruction of the Protestant Established Church, and the were extraordinary, when viewed as emanating from men joined in the British Constitution.
same Government. They acted without any settled rule or order, and the Mr. W. J. Bankes 'said that the Catholic Association ought to be put only thing for which they could claim distinction, was their disunion on dowu, as it had already done much mischief. The Hon. Member added, those questions on which of all others they should be 'united. Nothing that while he was on his legs, he could not help adverting to what felt that he bad seen or read could be compared with this system, or want of from an Honourable Civilian (Dr. Lushington) on the preceding evening, system, except that which the greatest of our poets gave as a descripwhen he adrerted to the University Club. (A laugh.): 'He did not stand tion of Chaos—. there as the champion of that club; but when the Hon. and Learned
- where eldest Night Civilian stated, that certain Memoirs (A laugh) were received, while
"And Chaos, ancestors of Nature, hold the bible was rejected, he was in error. There was no such book as the
“ Eternal anarchy amidst the noise Memoirs there, nor was any such book proposed. It was, he "believed,
“ Of endless wars, and by confusion stand. very dach asked after (A laugh); biit it was not there.
“ For hot, cold, moist, and dry, four champions fierce, Sir J. BRYDGES was friendly to the bill." Mr. GRENFELL disapproved of the raising of money by the Association;
" Their embryo atoms;, . bot be maintained that the Catholics ought never to rest satisfied till they had obtained their just rights; and be trusted in God that they would not ..
« Chaos umpire sits, abmit to be deprived of them (Hear, hear!), w ie
." And by decision more embroils the fray Mr. ROBERTSON contended. ibat it was quite absurd to say that ihere : “ By which be reigns; next him, bigh arbiter, was anytbing unconstitutional in ihe attempts of the Catholics to recorer.. ." CHANCE governs all.” (Loud cheering ) . their acknowledged rights. If the present system was perseyered in, the Would it not appear as if the present Cabinet bad sat for the picture Hoose might be assured that an atteinpt at separation would be made, for which Milton lere drew, or that he bad given the recipe for forming no man of sense could suppose ihat six millions of people would long con- discordant one? (Cheers and laughter.) It would appear as if me!!
announced that universal tranquillity prevailed in Ireland, and yet opon Mr. BROUGHAM rose and said, that he stood before then as the defendes this very speech a coercive measure against Ireland was now to be founded !) of the Catholic Association, as the advocate of the Irish people to meet, (Cheers.) This was not an Irish but an English question ; it applied to consult, to petition, to remonstrate,-aye, and to demand their just as much to meetings in Yorkshire as in Dublin ; its influence would be rights (cheers); and more than that, be would declare his frank and felt throughout the empire. The Association was to be put down, not solemn opinion, which he hoped would reach Ireland as well as England, because its acts were illegal, but because they might become so. This that the former and stronger they remonstrated, provided it was done was nonsense-it was a childish tampering with the liberty of the subject, peaceably, the greater would be their just prospect of success for obtainwhich no liberal policy could countenance. But Ministers said that they | ing those privileges which made life desirable, and the existence of marr would not allow themselves to be bullied into granting the Catholic claims! | useful to himself and to bis country. (Hear, hear!) Were tlie comTo be bullied into doing an act of justice! This language was as con- plainants to become abject in their suit, they would deservedly prostrate temptible as the feeling which gave rise to it. (Hear, hear!). It was themselves and their question, and lapse into the contempt which was due petty, miserable, absurd! The loss of the American Colonies, whatever to slaves.-Mr. B. denied that the Association interfered with the due political economists might say, was a disastrous event, which had plucked administration of justice. How unfortunate was this body in all their the brightest jewel out of the Crown of England, and had cast an inefface I proceedings ! If they were open, that was impudence ; if secret, that able stain on its reputation ; but, evil as that was, evil as the consequences | was impious. If they found fault with that which they suffered, it was had been, they were as dust in the balance when compared with the evil turbulence; if they were quiet, there was danger. Did they pronounce which would arise from the production of a war of rebellion in Ireland. I censure? That was disaffection; if they were to offer praise, that would (Great cheering.) Alluding to Catholic Emancipation, Sir Francis ob- be set down for bypocrisy. Nothing they could say or do would satisfy served, that whenever that great question was brought forward, no efforts | their opponents, and the bill stated that the only way of of his should be wanting to render it successful. (Loud cheering.) He was to destroy their existence altogether. “I don't care,” said an Hon. boped that it was now making great advances in this country, and he was Meinber, “ about the blustering of Ireland, but beware," added this sure that it had made very great advances since the period to which the alarming logician, “when Ireland shows the aspect of tranquillity. Ang Right Honourable and Learned Gentleman had alluded. But let that be then the proceedings of the Association were compared with the system of as it might, it was not for him to flinch from the performance of his duty. / 1782, the jacobitism of 1793, and the open rebellion of 1798. So that by (Cheers.) The cause was good, the grounds on which it rested were im this ratio the wound given to the public peace was only great because pregnable ; and, come what might, he would still be found among its
it was so small." supporters, and would take as his motto the fine saying of the Roman
To which must be added the response which was given to that very senpoet"Hic murus aheneus esto."-(Immense cheering followed Sir Francis
se cheering followed Sir Francissible complaint,-.. Burdett's speech, which was followed by murmurs of applause throughout
“Then 'twould be greater were there none at all." the House, that lasted several minutes.)
The fact was, that the Association did contribute to the tranquillity of Mr. CANNING, after some prefatory matter, contended that the Catholic Ireland, and that, too, without exercising any other control than the late Association was an unconstitutional one, for it was a self-elected, a self
exercise of their talents by men who sympathized with the people in appointed, a self-controlled, and a self-adjourned association (Hear, hear!) |
opinion, who participated in their sufferings, and felt their wrongs--mer acknowledging no equal, and admitting no superior (Hear, hear') levying who were the most considerable for rank and intellect in the country. money on the people by the force of its resolutions; (hear, hear!) inter- | Was the House really afraid of them, as they attected to be? He coola fering with the administration of justice; (hear, hear!) prejudging-no, I tell how to annibilate them in an hour. Ere the morrow of that evemag he must not say that, but-condemning beforehand, in published debates, l in which he was speaking, they might be scattered and heard of no more. individuals whom it was going to submit to trials in the various courts of Take the advice of the Attorney-General of Ireland. Take away the justice ; (hear, hear!) and in some cases, where individuals whom it vrievance which oppressed Ireland. Thongh late, yet there was time : accused had been acquitted, revising the judgment of tbe court, and let them begin to do justice. The Catholic Association would vanish, and condemning those whom the law had acquitted of all crime. (Great cheer. Ireland would bless them, as she would curse ibem if they began at the Ing.) There was no inconsistency in calling for a law to put down this wrong end, if, instead of redress, they rivetted their fetters. One great Association while Ireland was in a state of prosperity-far from it--for obiection to the Catholic Association was, that they were a self-constituthe Association retarded the increase of that prosperity, and rendered its ted body, and had the audacity to collect revenue. It was a voluntary duration problematical, by setting neighbour against neighbour, by rousing subscription. A man paid bis penny, or if he could not afford that the prejudices of all parties, and diverting from Ireland all that super- | amount, his halfpenny :'be paid bis shilling, but if that were not conveabundant English capital which would so much advance it in arts, agricul. nient, his sixpence was not unacceptable. (A laugh.) And if he paid ture, manufactures, and commerce! (Hear, hear') The House was nothing at all, he still received the advantage of the funds of those who therefore not only called upon to abate, but to put down such a nuisance! were able to advance a trifle. With their money he was defended from (Cheers.) The real question was, not whether the Catholic Association
unjust prosecution-with their money be was enabled to bring his oppres. and the House of Commons should co-exist; but whether the House of
sor to justice. (Hear!) Such was the system on which these men Commons should not check the Catholic Association before it really I acted : such was the compulsory manner in which these funds were colacquired the strength of a representative body. (Hear, hear') The lected.-Mr. Brougbam then commented on a document wbich he beld very fact of the Catholic Association being in possession of the confidence in bis hand, showing the proceedings of the Methodists in this country, of the Catholic body, was a reason for passing the present bill (hear, hear!) who were 500,000, not 3,000 strong, who collected large sums of money for by that declaration, and the tone they had adopted, they had seated
in the most peremptory manner, who had their Secret Committees, kept themselves, as it were, by the side of Parliament. It was his painful
books, agents, &c: The Catholic Association collected voluntary contribelief, that the Catholic question had recently retrograded in the favour of the English people (hear!) and the existence of the Association had au recently retrograded in the favourbutions, so did the Methodists ; but the latter went a step farther, they
assessed individuals, whereas the Catholics had not one word on the submainly produced this effect. Let it not be said that he was unfriendly tolject. (Hear!) Did he state this to blame the Methodists—to cast a the Catholic question. (Cries of “ hear, hear, hear !") Uufriendly be shadow of doubt on their motives, or on the legality of their proceedings? was, it was true, to the spoliation of the Church of Ireland. (Hear!) I Certainly not. But he argued, that what was right in England could And he was sufficiently a Catholic, in the popular sense of the word, to be not be unlawful in Ireland Thear!!)-that what the Methodists had a right desirous to extend to the Roman Catholics all the privileges of other sub to do, and raiber than give up which they would go to death, could not jects (not from any want of conviction of all the absurdities which the
be a mere matter of pretext in Ireland. (Hear!) The last charge Roman Catholic religion involved, nor yet from any lukewarmness in his
brought against the Association was, that they attempted too many things. affection for Protestantism) but from the persuasion that it might be possible
Tithes they never had touched; Parliamentary reform they refused to to maintain both religions iogether; and until the Catholics were admitted to
have anything to do with it. When a most learned and venerable man, a full participation of the rights of their fellow-subjects, the great work of Jeremy Bentham, sent his subscription, he called on them to take up the improvement would not be completely effected. The division of opinion
cause of Parliamentary reform, to which he had devoted his life. The in the Cabinet, on this subject, was one of 25 years standing. He (Mr. Association sent a letter in answei, in which they stated, that the AssociaC.) had twice refused to take office in consequence of the particular views tion must “ stand aloof from all questions, except the Catholic question, entertained by the administration; but he ihought that an administration and the redress of the grievances of Ireland.” (Hear!) Referring to the might differ conscientiously upon the Catholic question, and yet have the
Catholic question and to Mr. Canning's conduct respecting it, Mr. B. means of conferring great good upon the country. (Hear, hear.) He observed, that the Right Hon. Gentleman said the other night, that he might have e rred in forming this deliberate judgment as to the best way was as much a friend to the Catholic question as ever; and yet that friend of composing an administration; but to the charge of sinister views and want |
to the question said the most curious things to ensure its success. Could of integrity, he disdained to proffer an answer. (Cheers!') If ever the Catholic anything bave been said more galling to its real friends, or more pleasant question were carried,--and sure he was it would,-in his opinion that to its inveterate foes? (Hear.)He said, the people of England were, consummation would never be effected by a Cabinet expressly formed for as a man, united against the Catholics. This was acting like the Sneerthat purpose. His belief was, that if any such Cabinet were ever formed, wells, and the Candours, and the Backbites, whom he bad this night it would fail in its object, and not only fail in it, but create a flame of quoted. (Hear!) One of those characters said, “ I like such a person, discord in the country which it would be difficult to quench !-After some but I cannot get any body else to like bim." In the same way be liked further remarks on the Catholic question, in justification of the line of the Catholics, but he could get no one else to do so. (Laughter.) Gire conduct he had adopted, Mr. Canning concluded by observing, that in bim (Mr. Brougham) the friends of the Catholic, who said “ Not only the pessing the proposed bill, two great objects would be obtained—the Whigs in Parliament, but all men of liberal opinions, are favourable to extinc on of the Catholic Association, and an advancement of the main your claims." (Hear, hear!) London and Westminster.net withstand
and certainly the Head of the Country must not be considered as nothing.
TURNPIKE TRUSTS. Even in 1807, when the Whigs were turned out on the scandalous cry of Lord Lowther, after noticing the enormous sums levied at the turn"No Popery," in London and Westminster, in Yorkshire, in Lincoln-pikes about London, and the abuses which had crept into the system of sbire, and in Liverpool, which be represented, there was no symptom of management, moved that a Select Committee should be appointed to en. dishike to the cause. The argument now was, « I cannot propose this quire into the subject; which motion (with an amendment proposed by measure, the country are against it." But he said men of liberal Mr. HUMB, that the enquiry should extend ten miles round the metroopinions were for it, for the cry of “ No Popery " was going down ever | polis) was carried without a division. siace 1807. But this measure was abandoned, on account of the feeling
STATE OF IRELAND. of the country. Did these gentlemen always act upon the scale of On the motion of Mr. GOULBURN, the Select Committee of Enquiry into public opinion! What was their conduct in 1820 ? What did the the State of Ireland was re-appointed, and the Members appointed. : country feel at that time on the subject of the late Queen's prosecution ?
. USURY LAWS REPEAL BILL. ( Hear, hear!) There was on that occasion no reluctance on the part of the reading of this Bill was opposed by Mr. CALCRAFT, as he deemed bis Majesty's Government to copfront public opinion. There they were, I the restrictions imposed by our ancestors were wise and necessary.. with ope roice, anxiously pursuing their disgraceful and disgusting Mr. Home supported the Bill, as the present laws were in his judgment course. (Cheering.) Was that course rendered necessary by state expe- highly injurious to commerce. diency? Were there any reasons of state for it? Was one part of the Mr. J. Smith took the same ground, adding that one of the ablest poliempire likely to be torn from the other, if that measure were not carried ? tical economists of the age, Mr. Bentham, had triumphantly proved the No; but there was one person wbo held in his hand the issues of official | inutility of the Usury Laws, and his view was supported by Messfs. life, and to that person-for he would not mince the matter-they acted and M'Culloch. with a lowly subserviency, with an unhesitatiog humility, which a Rus- The SOLICITOR-GENERAL contended, that the improved condition of sian Court or the Cabinet of Ferdinand VII. might have equalled, but commerce, &c. since those laws were passed, sufficiently showed their certainly never could surpass. The trembling wretches in the Divan of utility, and that all borrowers would be oppressed by their repeal : le the Dey of Algiers, with the bow-string twanging in their ears, and the therefore moved, that the Bill should be read again that day six months.. cimitar glittering in their astonished eyes, could not bave acted more sub- Mr. Serieant Onslow replied to the objectors against the Bill, and on serviently. (Hear!) All this was done to gratify the caprice of a Royal served upon the boasted “wisdom of our ancestors,” that they deemed it person. It might have been an excusable caprice in him : but wbat irreligious to take any interest for money, denouncing those who did so as excuse could be made for those who ministered to it? (Hear!!) If the vipers and demons! Luther himself, the Hon. Member said, canea "e Association, in its present shape, should be put down, he hoped that the Pope Anticbrist, because he had said that money might be lent on mort. Catholics would not therefore be deterred from pursuing all the measures gage! which might be left to them all that the law had not prohibited; and in 1° Åfter several other Members had spoken, and among them Mr. WYNN, the end be did not doubt they would be successful. He called upon the who said that Ministers viewed the Bill favourably, the amendment was Catholics, not by any bad passions which might influence them-not by carried—45 to 40-50 that the Bill is thrown out. that enmity which he would fain see stilled-not by their sense of injuries which he wished and hoped to see buried in oblivion, but by every prin
Friday, Feb. 18. ciple which they held sacred as free men and Christians, to pursue the
.. THE CATHOLIC - ASSOCIATION. course which was before them. (Cheers.) He called upon the members
Several Petitions were presented in favour of the Catholic Association, of the Government, by the responsibility of their stations, by their charac- |
and a few in disapprobation of it-among the latter, one by Sir T. LETUters as statesmen, by every principle of policy and prudence, to deal with
BRIDGE, from the city of Wells and its vicinity. Upon this Mr. BROUGHAM
said he had received some information as to the concoction of this petition. the Catholics, not by feelings of hatred, but of charity-oot by measures It had been sent to the public inn from the office of the Attorney, who of oppression, but of conciliation ; and to reflect, ere it was too late, on
was the tool or agent of the Hon. Baronet; they endeavoured to raise the consequences whicb must result from the passing of this bill. (Heur!) I the foolish cry of “No Popery;" signatures were canvassed for i, a It would alienate the Catholics from them for ever. It would turn dis schoolmaster put down all the names of his boys who could not write, content to rage, and it would arm rage with new weapons. « On your and got the rest to add their own; those of tender age having been thus head," said Mr. Brougham, addressing himself toward the ministerial secured, he next applied to others in advanced-namely, the old womenbenches, “ on your head be the consequences of this misguided policy; who were told that the Irish Catholics were coming to cut their throals.com and you, not we, must have to answer for it, if your present measures (Much laughter and the ladies therefore induced their
pouses should have, as they must have, the effect of tearing Ireland from this to sign!-Sir T. LETHBRIDGE declared that he knew nothing of all this, country.”—The Hon. Member sat down amidst loud and repeated cbeer- and could not credit it! ing, which was continued for some time afterwards.
Mr. BROUGRAM then brought forward his promised motion respecting Amidst loud cries of « question,” Mr. BUTTERWORTH rose to address the petition of the Catholic Association to be heard at the bar of the the House, for the purpose, as well as we could gather bis meaning in the House, which he enforced with peculiar eloquence. He earnestly called noise which prevailed, of contradictiog some of the statements of Mr. upon the House at length to hear before they struck. “ Good God!" Broag bam respecting the Methodist Conference. Mr. B. produced a exclaimed Mr. B., “ can it be possible that you will reject the prayer of letter, wbich he held up to the House for some time, amid cries of " ques. six millions of the subjects of these realms without hearing them? tios, question,” and “read, read.” A candle was brought to the Hon. —that you will close your doors against them--that when the Member, who, having adjusted his spectacles, commenced the reading of parties who have been accused challenge the strictest inquiry into the letter, but he had not proceeded 'far wbeu a laugh was excited by their conduct, you will refuse their request, and proceed to convict; to
(Cheers.) some Member exclaiming Amen! Mr. Butterworth persevered with sentence, and to execute, without affording them a trial ?" great patience, and read part of the letter, to show that the Catholic Rent
- The Petitioners, he said, did not ask the House to hear them declaim was not a voluntary contribution (cries of " name, name,” and place. upon the measure in progress; but they asked for an opportunity to clear place"). It was in the county of Kilkenny, but he obiected to give up their own conduct, which had been aspersed-to clear their ibe name of the party who wrote the communication.
motives, which had been aspersed-o vindicate the Association, Mr. GOULBURN replied to the charge of having made a false statement
which had been aspersed-to rescue their country and their relirespecting two transactions alluded to in his speech ; and the House then
gion, both of which had been aspersed. (Cheers.) Besides these obdivided_ibe numbers were-For the motion, 278–Against it, 123–
jects, they had another still higher-if higher there could be that they Majority, 155.-The bill was then brought in, read a first, and ordered
might call their witnesses to the bar—that they might there have an opfor a second reading on Monday.-The House then adjourned at Half
portunity of explaining that which none but they could explain, and of PAST THREE O'CLOCK.
telling that story which none but they could know. · If he dared venture
to prophesy any event, from what he knew of the nature of the evidence Thursday, Feb. 17.
of which the House would, by this means, be put in possession of, it CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION.
would be, that the most favourable result must follow it. He was Mr. BROUGHAM presented a petition, signed by several Catholic Peers, morally certain that the House, as well as the parties who were interested Archbishops, and Bishops, and a great number of other persons of rank in this measure, would come out of the enquiry with 'much inore friendly and influence in Ireland, composing the Catholic Association, declaring | feelings towards each other.-(Hear, hear, hear!)“ Will you,” asked
feelings towards each other: that no act of theirs was ever intended to excite alarm, or exasperate ani.
Mr. B.“ shut your doors against them, and bid them go away, their mosity,-pledging themselves to rebut all the charges brought against petition rejected, their evidence unheard? If you do so, I say you will them, and praying ibat Parliament would allow Counsel to be heard in do that which may in all human probability produce consequences which their defence. The petition was received and ordered to be printed.-Mr. the youngest among you shall not live to see repaired, and which the B. presented anotber petition, on the same subject, from Newry, which
boldest among you will not be able to contemplate without dismay."was also received.
(Loud cheering.)-After urging with much force the expediency, proGAME LAWS.
priety, and justice of the claim to be heard, Mr. B. concluded by moving,
that the Petitioners be heard hy Counsel at the bar.--The motion was Mr. S. WORTLEY moved for lenve to bring in a bill to amend the Game
seconded by Sir F. BORDETT, and ably supported by Mr. HOBHOUSE, Laws, the same, be said, as the one be bad introdueed last Session. .
Mr. S. Rice, Mr. C. H. ITUTCHINSON, and Mr. SCARLETT. A conversation arose, and the practice of setting traps and spring guns Sir J. YORKE, Mr. Wynx, the ATTORNEY and SoLICITOR-GENERAL, was noticed, which Mr. Perl condemned, and Mr. Benet denounced as and Mr. PEEL opposed the motion. The latter Gentleman urged that murderous; while Mr. WORTLEY contended that the use of them was neither justice nor Parliamentary usage entitled the Petitioners to be beneficial and hunane - Leave was given to bring in the Bill, but not heard on this occasion ; that if they were heard, there would be no end Tithont considerable onnosition
to similar demands in a case of public importance; and in te
competent for the House to legislate on the general notoriety of the facts, I hazarded. A letter from Lima of the 4th of October, appears in the withont attending to special communications. In the course of his obser- | Liverpool Advertiser, announcing the entry of a party of the patriotic vations, Mr. Puspoke of Mr. Hamilton Rowan, as an attainted traitor, who l army into Lima on that day. Substantially, we apprehend that the had been highly praised by the Association when Messrs. BROUGHAM!
partisans of old Spain in Peru are on the point of final discomfiture; and C. H. HUTCHINSON both bore testimony to the high character of that amiable and much-respected Gentleman. Mr. Hutchinson reminded ihe
Ta catastrophe which is scarcely avoidable, seeing that they are altoRight Honourable Secretary, that Hampden. Russell, and Sidney were gether divided among themselves. called traitors, till the cause of liberty fourished in England; and From Paris we learn the arrest of the great Commissary and Conthat they would have continued to labour under that designation, if tractor OUVRARD, whose plunder and malversation are alleged to despotism had flourished in England, as it did in Ireland, to the present have enormously increased the expenses of the atrocious invasion of day.-(Hear!)-He also told him to beware how he drove insulted mil. Spain: he is to take his trial. It is stated in the private letters, that lions to madness (Cheers).
the proposed law of sacrilege-a wicked scheme to renovate the On a division, the motion was rejected by 222 to 89. ,
power and influence of priestcraft in France, is so unpopular, that
scarcely any of the Peers can be induced to speak for it; on which FROM THE LONDON GAZETTES.
account it is thought that it will be rejected by the Upper Chamber, Tuesday, February 15.
The French ultra papers, in allusion to our Irish policy, are pleasantly · BANKRUPTS.
expatiating upon our boasted attachment to civil and religious liberty: J. Crooke, Burnley, Lancashire, iron-founder. Solicitors, Messrs. Ad- it is an amusing sort of profession doubtless !
lington and Co. Bedford-row.
Letters from the Island of St. Thomas mention a serious insurrec-
One may judge of the value of Mr. CANNING's professions of T. Osborne, Stroud, Gloucestershire, linen-draper. Solicitors, Messrs. I good-will towards the Catholics, when we see him voluntarily giving Swain and Co. Frederick's-place, Old Jewry.
their enemies a great triumph, by admitting, with a mock-candid air, J. Cooper; Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, shopkeeper. Solicitors, that the people of England are opposed to their claims. As Mr.
Messrs. Milne and Parry, Temple.
BROUGHAM justly observed, this was a deadly blow at their hopes lam-buildings, Gray's Inn.
the most insidious enemy could not have dealt them one more fatale R. Turner, Manchester, joiner. Solicitors, Messrs. Hurd and Johnson,
But even this is nothing to the extraordinary reason he assignsTemple. ..
when pressed for this alleged popular hostility. The Minister F. Beesley, Bedwardine, Worcestershire, glove manufacturer. Solicitors, asserts, with a grave face, that the People of England are so warmly Messrs. Cardale and Co. Holborn-court, Gray's lon.
attached to the Church Establishment, that they are prejudiced J. Lock, Baker-street-north, St. Mary-la-bonné, chemist. Solicitor, Mr. against any concessions which they fear might lead to an invasion of Watson, Gerrard-street.
Church Property! We have heard many daring assertions respect J. P. Knight, Fulham, hop-merchant. Solicitor, Mr. Lindsay, St. Tho-ing the people made in Parliament; CASTLEREAGH was wont not to
mas's-street, Southwark. H. Smyth, Piccadilly, hosier. Solicitors, Messrs, Osbaldestone and
stick at trifles in that way ;-but never, since we took to reading *Murray, London-street, Fenchurch-street.
debates, did we encounter so outrageous a defiance of the sense and
knowledge of the public as is contained in this assertion of the Saturday, February 20.
Prime Minister. It is notorious, that the number of Dissenters in BANKRUPTS. . J. Reeves, Eaton, Backs, tailor. Solicitor, Mr. Jackson, New Inn, Strand.
England (to say nothing of Scotland, which however Mr. CANNING T: Glover, Wardour-street, Solio, bricklayer. Solicitor, Mr. Hodson,
meant to include) already exceeds that of the followers of the Church... King's-road, Bedford-row.
of England, and that the disproportion is daily growing greater; it is Jo Dean, Brompton, Middlesex, timber-merchant. Solicitor, Mr. Hird. notorious, that even the orthodox minority is eked out by the scepi) Berwick-street.
tics and the lukewarm in religion; it is notorious, that all the N. P. Singer, Liverpool, haberdasher. Solicitors, Messrs. Gates and reasonable and disinterested members of the Church of England, Hardwicke, Cateaton-street.
however strict they may be in their adherence to the doctrines of that J. Newbauk, Earl-street, Lisson-grove, stage-master. Solicitor, Mr. Church, do think an Establishment with a revenue of eight or nine Hallett, Northumberland-place, New-road.
millions a-year-abounding in scandalous luxury and inequality T, Harding, sen. and J. R. Harding, Bristol, brush-makers. Solicitors, Messrs. Williams and Co. Lincoln's-inı.
Ş. Bristol, brush-makers. Solicitors, anything but accordant with the proper character of a Christian · J. Fletcher, Pilkington, neat Manchester, grocer. Solicitors, Messrs.
Clergy; it is notorious, that no impost is so odious, no tax excites so Hard and Johnson, Temple. *
much ill-will, both in its tyrannous principle and its vexatious collecT. W. Wingate, Bath, dealer. Solicitors, Messrs. Burfoot, King's-bench
tion, as the Tithe-Tax. Yet in spite of all these notorieties—as unwalk, Temple.
deniable as seat-selling, as naked as the Lisbon Job-a leading
Minister deliberately affirms in the House of Commons, that the The Funds,- The British market remains remarkably steady, the
People of England are opposed to the Catholic Claims, because of fluctuations of the week being altogether trifling., South American
their over-anxious tenderness of the temporalities of Mother Church! Securities are a little improved by the recent new, although too vague
We hope Mr. BROUGHAM will not forget this to-morrow, when the to effect much alteration. Very little is now doing with the various
Catholic affair again comes before the House. His answer to Mr. Mining Shares, but the business done is upon a small advance. 'Greek | CANNING on Tuesday was admirable
CANNING on Tuesday was admirable and comprehensive; but this Scrip is on the rise. The operation in the French funds are languid, topic still remains for him, and he is well able to handle it in a style and will possibly remain so until the pending question concerning the that would make the Right Hon. Secretary cautious how he ventures reduction of the rentes is decided. Lalest quotations:
to attribute to the English Public prejudices which would disgrace Consols, 034 Keduced, 041 . : New 4 per Cents, 1057 106 .
them. 34 per Cents, Reduced, 1013 Consols for Account, 94 .
There is still a mystery relative to the increase of the army. RePRICES OF FOREIGN STOCKS YESTERDAY.
cruiting goes on throughout the country with a vigour quite unusual Austrian Bonds, 97 *
Mexican Bonds, 803 Buenos Ayres Bonds, 911 .
Ditto Scrip, 331 f pr. :
since the war-time; and Government appears to be raising a much Colombian Bonds Russian Bonds, *1822, 97} }
larger, number of troops than the 8,000 spoken of by the Chancellor Ditto (1824) 9014. Spanish Consols, 24 31 1
of the Exchequer. Some persons suspect-coupling this apparent
Ditto Account, 24 3 Greek Bonds, 5717
Ditto Consols (1823) 194 189 19 preparation with the violent tone of the Holy Alliance tools-that a Ditto Scrip, 04 # pr.
Ditto Account. 19 13119
rupture with the Continental Despots is anticipated, on account of
our recognition of South American Independence. But we do not the appearance of several Communications is delayed; but the Notice of the think the Legitimates in any condition to undertake a crusade asinet Lord 's vagaries must be authenticated before it can have place. In
Great Britain on such a score : we much more incline to suspect,
notwithstanding ministerial disclaimers, that the military preparation THE EXAMINER.
is connected with a secret fear of the consequences in Ireland of
that most impolitic and shameless measure, the suppression of the LONDON, FEB. 20, 1825.
A FOGGY UNDERSTANDING.-In the Debate on the Usury Laws LETTERS received from Buenos Ayres to the 4th of December bring Repeal Bill, on Thursday evening, the SOLICITOR GENERAL asked very interesting intelligence of the state of affairs in Peru, so late as “Was there any landed Gentleman so ignorant, did any Member of the beginoing of Oct ber., According to these accounts, Canteracthat House possess so foggy an understanding, as not to see that, if and the Royalist army were approaching rapidly, to their dissolution, the monied man could legally into the trader at a higher rate than,
the Learned Member wiil explain to us then, why,-since on his material for the hånd of a master. In the present instance, we are principle every lender gets as much as the law permits him to take,- indulged with little beyond a mere melo-drama, attended with a why monied men are at this moment lending at 4, 3, and even 2 per fault, which, from the nature of the story, is very extraordinary per cent., when that very law allows them 5 per cent. , “ Your that is to say, a surprising want of action. We have also to deplore most exquisite reason, Sir Knight!"—Here is a pretty fellow to the additional defect of à most mawkish and threadbare tissue of impute foggy intellects to people who, with the present state of the feminine interest, uncongenial at once with the main incident and money-market before their eyes, can see no connection between the character. Why lower the ruling passion of a man in the situation mercantile value of money and the arbitrary legal rate of interest of Massaniello, by a silly and improbable amour with a woman of We should like to hear this bright genius floundering about in an quality, and the undesigned assassination of a too tender and prying attempt to prove that connection-till when, we trust his dogmatic wife? events, which for the two last acts produce'a maudlin source of flippaney will be rewarded with the appropriate cognomen of “Foggy distress which is wholly opposed to dramatic, historical, or any WETUERALL."
other order of consistency. But this it is to attempt the bow of
Hercules in a pair of white gloves-to deal in elements beyond our The French Budget has been brought forward-the receipts estimated
power of handling. The subject of our dramatist was the headlong at 928, the expenses at 926 millions of francs. . The Court of Common Çouncil have agreed unanimously to petition
career of a strong and powerful mind, suddenly raised from the Parliament for the repeal of the Assessed Taxes; and more especially for
lowest station to unbounded gratification, and overborne by the that of the House and Window Duties.
transition into tyranny and phrenzy. Instead of this, we perceive a According to accounts from the Bank of England, it appears that man very decently bemoaning, for half an hour together, the death amongst the public balances in the hands of the Company, are," April 5, of a beloved wife. If there must be love in a play, why not connect 1824, Lottery Prizes not claimed, 14,6241.; July 5, 1894, ditto, 11,7521. ; | it with underplot, or incidental character? All this is said in allusion Oct. 10, 1894, ditlo, 7,7681., and Jaouary 5, 1825, ditto, 7,27,14.; making to Massaniello, as an attempt at tragedy; as an olio of singing," together 41,4154.; and respecting the Dividends due and not demanded,
dancing, scenery, horsemanship (KEAn mounts one of Ducrow's there were quarterly Returns to Jan. 5, 1825, of about 1,200,0001.! INDIAN PRESB.- Capt. SEELEY'S “ Voice from India,” in favour of a |
chargers) and processions, were it not insufferably dull, it might pass. fettered Press-wbat a performance for a free-born Briton !) has been
Dullness, however, and a species of anticlimax in the management ably replied to by Capt. RomEO, in the name of “ Common-Sense.”
of incident, are unbearable in every walk of the drama. Mr. SOANE, Common-Sense, as is usually the case, has by far the best of the argu the reputed author of Massaniello, seems only to excite expectation in ment; but whether it will be listened to in the high places, is quite order to:baffle it, and uniformly falls instead of rises with the occaanother matter.
sion. We will not recommend him to chuse out some province in RENT.-The “ London Catholic Rent Association ” has changed its acrostic land," because we willingly concede to him a far higher title to that of the “ Free Gift Association," in consequence of a letter share of talent; but certainly Melpomene 'never answered for him at read at the last meeting from a Mr. Blount; who suggested that the the font-that he may depend upon. term“ Rent” implied something due, which there was an obligation to We shall sufficiently describe all the rest in our advertence to the pay, and not a voluntary contribution. We learn from a respectable Correspondent, that not the slightest |
acting. In the first place, then, Mr. KEAN-Land we speak it in the blame is attached to Mr. Peto, the Builder of the New Custoin-house, in
face of a very active disposition to run him down-did as much for respect of the recept accident which occurred to that national building.
our melo-dramatic Massaniello as the author would allow. Had it King's BENCA.-Mr. Wood, a salesman of Croydon, was yesterday been more historically correct and natural, he would have been quite foond guilty of a breach of promise of marriage to a Miss Horner. Every the man for it; but he is not the actor to whine out love, penitence, thing bad been arranged, the settlement made, the day of marriage fixed, or complaint,-complaint, the very essence of modern tragedy, the when the Gckle Salesman suddenly changed his mind, and would not chief pathos of which is generally a tedious species of bemoaning!
se is state. The Jury gave the worsaken, lady 1001, to sollen her Now, too much complaint, either on or off the stage, is insufferably grief. On Friday, in the Court of King's Bench, the Chief Justice refused to
tiresome, and seldom the language of energy or passion. It is in fact, allow a cause to proceed, in which a Mr. Egerton sought to recover 1001.
in many temperaments, à species of mental evaporation, a relief posa. from a Mr. Furzeman, which had been deposited with him as the stakes
sibly to themselves, but a certain bore to everybody else. On the upon a dog-fight. The Chief Justice observed, that all such wagers
stage, particularly, it is the bore superlative, and especially unfit for Here illegal.
KEAN, who by some very fine hits in his own way, shewed what he Bow-STREET,-Yesterday morning, the notorious Wm. Probert was | might have done with loftier matter. His soliloquy when probrought up on a cilarge of horse-stealing., Andrew Meredith, of Glou- voked by his wife's information of the exaction of the tax-gacester, a farmer, stated that his mare was stolen from his close on Thurs- therer, was very fine, and so was a good deal of his verbal encounters day night, and he traced it to the prisoner's mother's house in that city with the old serpentine Viceroy. In a banquet scene, the author, on the following day. The prisoner said he should be able to prove an | having caught a genuine hint from history, shows the rising effects of alibi. He was remanded. Brown's PNEUMATIC ENGINE. --Recent experiments by Dr. Fyffe, of
wine, and of the still more intoxicating consciousness of unbounded Edinburgh, and other chemists, show that the power of this engine,
power on undrilled and unpractised nature, with some skill; and arising from the vacuum produced by the rapid combustion of gas, is
Bis Kean depictured the incipient phrenzy very admirably. In some greater than was at first supposed, but that it will be more expensive subsequent wordy war with a haughty Nobleman, he also appears to than the steam engine, The pneumatic engine will, however, be con- advantage. Almost all the rest was entirely out of his way, and intained in so much less space than the stean-engine, the former being deed of that of every body else; no human being could make much calculated to weigh only one-fifth as much as the latter, that it will still of it. be much preferable for locomotive engines, and for other purposes where WALLACK performed a proud but honourable Noble, when he had anyroom is an object. A four-horse power locomotive steam-engine weighs
thing beyond empty expletive to utter, with considerable effect; but', towards of four tons, whereas a pneumatic engine of the same power
independently of Massaniello, the only attempt at individualization, will weigh less than one ton, and a supply of gas sufficient for four hours' consumption may be compressed into a cubical copper vessel scarcely
was a sort of bravo, evidently sketched from the gipsy in Quentin Exceeding one yard each way. It is said that there are serious intentions
Durward, and forming a tolerably respectable Master Barnardine out applying this engine to working the plough !-Leeds Mercury. of prison. Terry filled up this sketch with considerable spirit; but :
unhappily, as to the drama, it is a mere superntimerary, though one THEATRICAL EXAMINER.
which told. Of the court lady of Mrs. Bunn, and the loving wife
of Mrs. West, we will say nothing; vapid and womanish conceptions DRURY-LANE.
as they both are, no human skill could infuse anything like vitality A sew piece was brought out at this theatre on Thursday evening, | into either of them. Without rhyme, reason, or necessity, that. intitled, Massaniello, the Fisherman of Naples, to which was affixed pleasing actress, Mrs. Yates, was put into male attire to say what tbe somewhat equivocal denomination of an Historical Play. We any fifth-rate male was equally fit for. But this is the Drury-Lane Leed not enter in the particulars of the popular insurrection which way; a play-bill is filled with names without characters, and the interest rapplies the subject of this piece, as it is very generally known; of the actor, and finally, the reputation of the whole company is sufice it therefore to say, that the rising of a people excited by a sacrificed to a little temporary attraction. This is poor, and should be
ose of oppression into a burst of brief 'temporary fury, under the amended. conduct of one of those master spirits which every rank of life will The dialogue of this piece exbibits occasional spirit and vigour,
casionally furnish, is not an unfavourable theme for dramatic manage- but as usual the populace are made too contemptible to supply the ment. The historical truth also, in reference to the fate and charac-necessary collision. Nobility, to be sure, is dealt with a little freely, e of Massaniello, was tolerably congenial, A man of quick sense but as to Kings, they are as a Bishop said in the days of the first Stuart, and deep feeling, ourturing within his bosom a deadly animosity to “the breath of our nostrils ;” and, as another observed during the most 2stocratical pression, finally inflaming an aggrieved populace, and recent of the Brunswicks, can in no sense“ do wrong." : This play is
ning, . ption of a volcano, for nine days, until driven by printed, and we perceive that the facetious hand of Mr. COLMAN