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time of his annual income from the privy purse, und tlorew hini ipon the Your petitioners therefore intreat, that your Hon. House will be dorms of the world in the 72nd year of his age, exposed to all the anti- pleased to appoint a Commission to visit the maid Robert Gourlay: make historical and anti-contemporarian prejudices of the day.

such inqniry into his case as may ensure justice ; and restore hiin to the The writer of the gratuitons painphlet las connecied the proposed | possession of his property, at home and abroad. purchase of Mr. West's Historical Pictures with a permanent meastire of

And they will ever pray. an annual grant from Parliament to patronize British history painters. He is anxious for the purchase, as an act of public benefit for the advance.

TO GREECE ment of the Fine Arts; as an act of public necessity for the honour of the

Bound for ages-still the spirit, country; and as an act of public justice' 10 the distinguished genius, the

Greece! of thy sires thou didsl inherit; memory and the family of the late President. I conceive that the pur.

When as yet no murmur told chase is also necessary to prevent the continued flight of the British

The high hopes thou didet ensold, artists and students from the public style of history painting : to prevens

In thy ever Grecian breast, the utter decay of that high department of the Arts, and the consequent

Veil'd as it was with 'Turkish vext:

og pline in decline and corruption of the domestic style, in which I am proud toisy,

Like Liris *. lovely daugler" keeping " or . the British School has attained to such high excellence. I cannot help

Till the matio-bell should sound, conceiving that the purchase is a public duty, because it would com

ller appointed night of weeping, mence a treasury of National genius for ihe National Gallery, unequalled

Wandering through enchanted ground; in the public style by any of the Foreign Schools, since the days of

So didst thou in darkness dwell, the Caracci. The preservation of the collection would also, in the words

Nerveless beneath slavery's spell; of Sir Thomas Lawrence, furnish a school of jostruction to the British

Enchained by Turk, whilseireacherous Frank students, and would save the Empire from the painful celebrity of ha v

Laughed to hear the sullen clank ing silently beheld inis truly National Gallery subjected to all the con

or thy felters-mocking thee tingencies of the anti-British and anti-historical spirit, without having

With faithless hopes of Liberty! made one effort to prevent its dispersion. How can we reconcile this

Then,--waiting calmly for the time abandonment of the Arts with the memorable admonition of the Select

When thy sigual light shouldst shine, Committee on the Elgin Marbles- Your Committee cannot dismiss this

Didst thou clasp thy hands, and press interesting subject, without submitting to the attentive retlection of the

Thy aching brow ini bitterness! House, how highly the cultivation of the Fine Arts has contributed to the

Tliy torch-light blazed !--the etherial Name reputation, character, and dignity of erery Government by whom they

From Britain's isle in gļory came, have been encouraged, and how ixtimately they are connected with the

Borne in His hands, who from afar advancement of everything valuable in science, literature, and philosophy."

Rose o'er tlıy nighi-ihy Morning Star April 19, 1825.

ALGAROTTI.

The long expecied, hoped for guese,
MR. GOURLAY.

The promised Saviourt from the West !

And thou canst dash the cup away
TO THE EDITOR OF THE EXAMINER.

He proffered to thy lips,
House of Correction, Cold Bath-fields, April 15, 1825.

And let the love of rival sway
SIR, Mr. Stuart Woriley will, 1. hope, present for me to Parliament,

Thy dawn of light eclipse : Dext week, a petition for inquiry into iny case ; but, unless backed by

Shame on thee! each degenerate sori, the public, there will be litile chance of a fair and full hearing : not

Of those who fought at Marathon! only vically important to me, but of consequence in every Britisti subject.

By the warm stream of life that run · May I, Therefore, beg of you 10 publish this letter and the subjoined

o'er the red plain of Dragarban, t. form of a petision, subînitted as one whiclo any person inay safely sub

Where the sacred Cohort stood, scribe, resting merely on a belief of my assertionn.

Tinging it with their youthful blood, I have been persecuted for 15 years, and reckon that I and my family

And for a land beloved too well have lost thereby not less than 50,0001. I was involved in a Chancery

A new three hundred fought and fell! ouit five years.; gained all iny points al law; and shen vexed six years

When with the light of victory dawning, more with an appeal which had no object but vexation...

Karania--craven traitor! fled,' While I was abroad my wife was frightened out of my farm in Wilt

Leaving those gallant sons of morning phire without compensation ; and 10,0001. bas been loud by that concern

A holocaust on deall's cold bed : alone. I was, after two fronourable ucquillais from falin charges in

By that torrent shed for thee, Upper Canada, cruelly imprisoned and banished. A provision for my

Greece! remember, thou canst be children was withheld upwards of four years by litigation, and in so will

Strong alone in anity : by a conspiracy of lawyerx, though iny right has been confirmed by a

Only wlien, low discord spurning, decision of the House of Lords. On a second arrest, for the same alleged

· Man to man as brother turning, offence, which could answer no purpose bue revenge, I was committed 19

Every rival thought is given this house, and kept on lelon's fare. Finally, I am denied a hearing

To the winds of heaven, and riven, from the King by ihe same Ministers wlio thriist me into prison.

Shall thy banner proudly Ay While all this has happened with misery unspeakable, till bardened with

O‘er a land of liberty! endurance, I challenge ile severext scrutiny into my conduct and princi.

Oh! by your Fathers--who were Free! ples. For 24 years my thoughts have been devoted to the mudy of the

And by your Sons-who must be Slaven ! poor law system; and for the last eight, to that of einigration is connec

Until ye clasp in unity, iion there with. To recover my property; 10 rejoin my children, from

And by your Brother's unturfed graves! .whom I have been separated eight years; or, 10 sel about my regular

With Their warın blood reeking yet ; pursuit in life, is impossible without Parlianientary inquiry, prayed for

By Scio's still unransomed debt! in vain during five Sessions. With this I can not only obiain relief in

And by the memory of that SON my private affairs, but subinit simple and practicable plans for the reform

or Genius! wliose last puæn done, of the poor law system and emigration-olijecis of the weightiest import

Amongst ye breathed his last ;-whose knell at the present moment. I never was and ever will be coi

Turned nations pallid, when it rose party; am neither Tory, Whig, nor Radical; but should the public and

From Messalonghi, soon to swell the press afford aid, I shall either prove iyself anseful, honest nian, or

From burning Ind 10 arctic snows; quietly set down for ever as a vaill), troublerome, and empty fool.

Who gave you,-all that man could give : 'A public subscription was wet on foot for me in 1822, which I declined

Who loved you,-till he ceased to live;while iny honour was held in question; bur, were the public to support

Whose boyish hope,-whose dying groun, me through difficulties, most cheerfully slould I submit to be advised

Shared with his child were Greece's owo:or assisted..

ROBERT GOURI.AY.

By all your hopes, and all your fears,
FORM OF PETITION,

Your wrongs, your bloodshed, and your leurs
To the Honourable the Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The reckoning of four hundred years! and Ireland in Parliament assembled.

Ye warring chiefs-unile ! unite! The petition of the undersigned inhabitants of the parish of

Then, on, with renovated might Humbly sheweth:-That your petitioners have beard that Robert

God's blessing on each patriot's right!

F.S.C. Gourley, a British subject, has been deprived of his property in Eugland by a long continued and vexalious suit in Chancery : That he has been see the 21st Irish Melody. unconstitutionally banished from his property and friends in Canada, + If ever prophecy was accomplished,-the Grecian prophecy of . after two honourable acquitrals from false charges :- That lie has been Saviour from the West was fulfilled in LORD PYRON.: for five years nnjustly deprived of provision for his childrens by litiga. See Blaquière's Greek Revolution, for an account of the battle of fiou, and is still deprived of the same, though secured by deciwjon of ine Bucherest. House of Lords:--That he has often, but without succ-se, petitioned the Kine and Parliament for inquiry into his case, and that he is now con.

HYDROPHOBIA. .. fine in the House of Correction, Cold Ballo-fields, without the benefit of

TO THE EDITOR OF THE EXAVINER. trial and because he will not give bail ccording to state which !

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disepsex, Hydrophobia-- and for the information of the Public, I wish these intolerant Separatists of what a late Right Reverend Prelate had through your weekly paper, to communicate where a certain remedy said-namely, that the Catholies were nearer and dearer to the English against the consequences of a bite from a mad dog may be procured.Church than the Dissenters—and his Lordship hoped that the Dissenters There is a whole family in Kent which possesses the knowledge of a would not forget this ! medicine for its cure. The present immediate representative in named Lord HOLLAND remarked, that the Noo Conlormists were a large body Chaprowni, residing at Birling, near Town Malling in that county; and of persons, and lie thought it was not fair to attribute sentiments to the there are two female branches of the same family residing within the whole body which miglit be held only by a certain number of them. He parish of Ash, near Kingsdown, whose present names I am unacquainted bod himself, more than once, presented petitions in favour of toleration with, but both of whom are well.known in the neighbourhood, and could from the Dissenters of the Three Denominations. be found easily. Several instances of perfect cure of the human species, The Bishop of CHESTER presented a petition against the Catholica from and numerous cures of various, animals, are within the knowledge of the Dissentrrs of the Chapel in Jewry-street, London, who not only dealmost every person residing in that part of the country; indeed, no precated tbe removal of the restrictions from the Catholics, but expressed instance of failure is known, if the remedy has been timely applied, I their entire satisfaction at the restrictions which were imposed upon them. untes the bite has been between the eyes. One of my own workmen, selses! The Reverend Prelate admitted that this petition had excited.. during the last summer, had a sow in a breeding state severely wounded his surprise : but he complimented the petitioners for their conduct, aud by a mad dog, the knowledge of which did not reach me until evident expressed his conviction ihat the great body of Protestant Dirsenters symptoms of the efiects had shown themselves when I recommended viewed with no dissatisfaction the Church of England, as they were him to apply the remedy, which he did with success.--I wrote to the sensible that nnder no other were they likely to enjoy the same large and Editor of the Morning Advertiser, to which I am a life subscriber, with

liheral toleration they had so long enjoyed under it! The Reverend Bishop my bame and address, at the time when mad dogs were very prevalent added, tint he was tiappy to find the Disscuters were so much alive to last spring, stating the circumstance above-mentioned, except that relative to my workman's animal, which did not occur until afterwards

the dangers of the Protestant Religion !Lord CALTHORPE was of opinion, and cranot say but that I was surprised by not seeing it noticed in that

that to remove the restrictions on the Catholics would add strength to the

Protestant Church, which was now regarded in a persecuting light. In pener.

John Cox. Brewery, Bermondsey, April 17, 1825.

his opinion, the people of England generally were in favour of their Catholic brethren.

On a petition being presented from Nottingham, against the Catholics, UNITED PARLIAMENT.

Lord King stated, that so far was it from being true, that no efforts bad

been made in “ getting up” those sort of petitions, it was & fact that HOUSE OF LORDS.

placards had been stuck up about Nottingham, calling upon the people to Monday, April 18.

come forward and oppose the Pope and the ruin of their country! A considerable number of petitions against the Claims of the Catholics

Friday, April 22. were presepted and ordered to lie on the iable; Lord CALTHORPE remarking Lord Holland presented a petition from the Dissenters of Wareham, upon them, that he regretted the pains taken by the Clergy to bring forward in favour of the Catholic claims, observing tbat the Petitioners wore petitions on this subject. Not withstanding the number, he was persuaded anxious to vindicate themselves from the imputation of opposing those that what was called public opinion, instead of being against, was in favour | claims, as they considered that the opposition to them arose from “igno. of the Casholic claims. He would ask their lordships wbether they had rance." Several other petitions, ngoinst these claims, were presented, received any petitions from bodies of persons, whose opinion ought to love chiefly, however, from the Established Clergy... great weight on such a question as this? Hnd they received any foon Lord HOLLAND obtained leare to bring in a Bill to repeal the law of grand jurier ; from county wretings; from any considerable meeting of attainder and forfeiture, in so far as the rights of others, besides the direct of maonfacturers or commercial men-in short, from any descriprion of offenders, were prejudged... perrons, except the Clergy, whose station, wealth, and talents, entitled

HOUSE OF COMMONS. them to great ini mence in the country? He was extremely sorry to find that on this question the Clergy of the Established Church stood isolated

Monday, April 18. and detached from the feelings of the other well-educated parts of the

. AXTI-CATHOLIC PETITIONS-INTOLERANT DISSENTERS. community.

A considerable number of petitions against the Claims of the Catholics Tuesday, April 19.

were presented, sowe of them from Protestant Disseplers, but ohiefly from

the Established Clergy; when Sir. Tulos. LETHBRICGB said he withdrew ANTI-CATHOLIC PETITIONS. Petions from various qnarters were presented against the Catholic

the charge of " apathy ” which he brought against the people e fow Claims, and some in their favour. The LORD CHANCELLOR remarked,

nights back. Some were also presented in support of those Claims; one that had he not contented himself with remaining merely passire, he could

of tbem by Mr. BROCGHAM, who gave it as his settled opinion, that all bave had their Lordship's table covered with petitions !- Lord Kino,

tests, and all civil qualifications, respecting disabilities to kiold particular alluding lo the mode in which some of these petitions were “ got upr" said

situations on account of religious belief, ought to be remored." He was that the one from Newark was signed by being sent round to the 'riding.

of opinion also, that the pure doctrine of religious toleration ought to be exbaner, and all the boys were made to put their names to it.

lended to all sects, as well as to the Roman Catholics. (Heur!) Why,

The Metho. dist Partons, too, had been active, and had got hold of the women, who

did he wish this? Because he felt that a man was no more answerable had persunded their husbands to sign not only for themselves, but to put his whysical or mental constitution, over which he had no control. (Hear!)

for the lenets he espoused in religion, than he was for any peculiarity is down every one of their children's names !.

To iu dict punishment on men because they adhered to certain religious QUARANTINE LAWS. Lord DARNLEY called for various papers on the subject of the Quarny.

opinions, was, in fact, to make them hypocrites; for, however interest rine Laws, and recommended caption in their relaxation; in which recome

might induce them to submit, those religious opinions which were long

rivested in their minds they would still retain. (Hear!) This was mradation he was joiged by Lord HOLLAND, who said that since the establishment of those laws, the Plague, frequent before, had rarely de.

human walire. Cherishing these sentinsents, it was with feelings of vastated Europe.Lord LIVERPOOL observed, that those best qualified 10

sorrow, and, he would say, of bitter disappointment, that he had listened form a correct jndgment, had recommended a relaxation in these laws, |

to night to the opinions wbich had been advanced on this subject. There which were incon renient and injurious to trade.

se laws, was nothing extraordinary in the petitions of the Established Clergy ; but

Ibere was a class of persons whose signature he wos ashamed to sce affixed Wednesday, April 20.

lo petitions of a similar tendency. He alluded to that most respectable Petitions agaiost the Catholic Claims were presented from the Arch-class of men--the Dissenters. If there were one class of mer more than deacon and Clergy of the Archdeaconry of West - , in the diocese of another bound to petition in favour of the Roman Catholics, ibat class was Canterbury, and from Barnstable.

the Dixsenters. Hear, hear!) Those Hon. persons were, be supposed, Lord Kixg said, this latter petition afforded an example of the nature sensible that they theinselves laboured under disabilities, and he hoped, of the petitions “ got up" against the Catholic Claims. The petition was as they called on that House 1o extend a little tolerance and liberality the result of a meeting which no persons were allowed to atiend excepi towards them in matters of conscience, that discussion would ultimately those the agreed in opinion with the persons who called it. On the remiud them how grierously inconsistent was the conduct pursued by then , meeting being assembled, a respectable Clergy man was proceeding to selves. The doors of office in the State, great and small, were shut against object to the petition, when he was told that if he came to oppose it, he the Dissenters, but they got over this difficulty by the annual indequity had no business there, and that those irho were present had nothing to do act. (Hear') And yet, labouring under those disabilities, they called but to sign it. This petition came from a quarter of the country wbere on the Legislature to continue the disabilies of the Roinan Catholice ! There was a great fear of witches and Jesuits! It certainly ouglii not to (Hear!) He recollected that James 'II. was addressed by the Quakera, be put forth as the petition of the inhabitants of Barnstable,

on the occasion of his accession to the throne, in these terms ;-“We Lord ROLLe confessed that he was alraid of Jesuits, and should only hear that thou no more agreest with the Established Church of this land further say, that the petition was signed by all the respectable gentlemen than we do ourselves : for the which reason, we expect that thou will in the neighbourhood of Barnstable.

extend that toleration 10 us which thou thyself standest in need of.” Now, Lord Rolls then presented a petition against the Catholic Claims, from be would apply to tbe Dissenters (for whom he bad a greater reverenco len parishes in the connty of Devon.

and respect than for any sovereigu) the words of the Quakers. He would · Thursday, April 21.

say to those Dissenters who had placed their petition in the bands of the ANTI-CATHOLIC PETIȚIONS, &c.

Hon. Secretary of State for the Home Department, that they ought to Sereral petitions were presented against the Claims of the Catkolics, admit the Roman Catholics to a participation in those rights which they some of them from Protestant Dissenters, when Lord King reminded I were themselves struggling for.

Mr. Peel said, that the petition from Bolton was signed by nearly grievances. It was signed by 32,000 persons. The Noble Lord urged 10,000 persons, comprising almost the whole of the Disserters in that the necessity of at length doing justice to the petitioners, aod exposed the neighbourhood. He saw no inconsistency in the conduct of Protestant falsehood of various calqunnies disseminated by the ignorant and tlre deDissenters when they petitioned against granting further concessions to signing against the opinions of the petitioners. Mr. JoAN SNITH fol. the Roman Catholics, because those Dissenters were protected by the lowed, and observed, that for moral conduct, integrity, and industry, the annual indemnity act. They had a right to petition against the concession English Catholies were excelled by no body of ren in the empire, except of privileges to those whose religious doctrines they disliked, because they perhaps the Quakers, with whom, he believed, no sect was to be put in conceived them dangerous.

competition.--Mr. Coke presented a petition in fa vour of the Catholics Mr. W. Smith expressed his belief that the great body of Dissenters from the Archdeacon and 70 Clergymen of the Diocese of Norwich, obwere favourable to the claims of the Catholics.

serving at the same time, that this tolerant spirit offered a good example Mr. ABERCROMBY said, that the conduct of those Dissenters who peti-to the English Clergy in general. tioned against the claims of their Catholic brethren was totally irreconcil.

CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL. able with consistency and common sense.

Sir F. Bordett now moved the second reading of this bill. Mr. BROUGHAM remarked, that the Dissenters most egregiously deceivedMr. BROWNLOW said, it was evident that something must be done to themselves if they thought the Church of England would, in return, do meliorate the condition of the Irish people; and as we could not go back any thing for them. (Hear!) He thought he knew the Church (a laugh) and re-enact the Penal Code, we must go forward and grapt concession. he spoke of the High Church; and he was sure the Dissenters who came His own sentiments were quite changed on this subject, and the animosity forward with these petitions knew little of that Establishment, if tbey he formerly felt towards the Roman Catholics bad given way to far dif. thought that in the hour of need their conduct on this occasion would ferent feelings. He wished therefore to atope for his former opposition stand in their stead. The Dissenters might come to them and say, “Don't and errors; and though an avowal of his change of opinion migbt sabject you remember on the 19th of April, 1825, when you were in the greatest him to ridicule and suspicion, he was bound in candour to make it knowo. distress for a No-Popery' crywben the Solicitor-General was in de. He bad been misled by old facts and prejudices; but the evidence adduced spair-when every body, even the Hon. Member for Somersetshire, com. before the House had 'satisfied him of his mistake, and he was now conplained of the apathy of the people that we came forward, and gave you vinced that the peace and prosperity of Ireland and the security of the a few drops of alarm, a few crumbs of comfort, in the shape of ominous Empire, demanded that the concessions called for should be made without forebodings (Hear! and laughter ;) and will you not 'now assist us | loss of time. (Hear, hear, hear!) in getting rid of our disabilities?” How would this appeal be received ? Mr. BANKES opposed the bill, declaring that the proposed additions This question would be" Wbat did you come forward for? Did you to it made it ten times more objectionable. (Hear!) The object, he not coine forward according to your conscientious belief that danger was said, was to raise the Catholic Churcb to an equality with, if not a supeto be apprehended? Were you not really alarmed ? Certainly you riority over, the Protestant Church; and if the, Priests were to be prowere and you came forward not to assist us, but to belp yourselves. vided for, the tithes of the establishment would shortly be invaded ! (Ileur !'and laughter.) You have a monopoly of toleration-you have Nothing, therefore, but anarchy and confusion were likely to arise from got into a snug birth yourselves, and all you wislied for was to retain it. the proposed concessions, and he should more that the bill be read this (Hear!) We have become enlightened on this subject ourselves, and we day six months. think it very inconsistent for you, the Dissenters, to have acted as you did. Mr. Wm. Peel seconded this motion, and contended that to multiply For us it was the best thing that ever was done. You performed the work, the power of the Catholics was to increase their capacity for doing mis. and we despise you heartily for it (Flear!); but as to our assisting you, chief. Good Catholics were bound to promote the dowofall of the Pro. we are astonished how sucb an idea could ever bare entered your minds." testant faith. He looked with terror to the nuinber of Catholic Members (Hear, hear!) He migbų be allowed here to observe, that the odium who would take their seats within those walls; and as he had been bred theologicum operated in an inverse ratio to the aproximation of opinion up in the best religion on the face of the earth, the Protestant, he felt it amongst different Christian sects-a principle which undoubtedly applied his duty to opposo all further concessions to the Catholics. , to tbe Established Church. The nearer those sects approached, the more Col. Bagwell supported the bill. they hated each other-and, when the sliade of difference was very in Mr. Dawson opposed it. He said, he was baunied by the consequences distinct indeed, the parties hated one another to a degree of pure bitterness. which must follow further concessions to the Catholics, who were bostile In the early ages of Christianity, one little letter, one iota, kad produced to the religious establishment of this coudtry, were full of rancour {ur past much enmity and bloodshed. The Church was divided between the terms, Homoousion and Homoiousion, and much strife was engendered between

triumphs, and ready, he was sorry to say, to make the most use of fuiure

concessions. (Hear!)-Mr. Dawson alluded lo the very different senthose who defended the former word and those who supported the latter! timents expressed by Mr. Doyle and Mr. O'Conuell before the Committee, The distance between those parties was noi, it appeared, very great, but and while on their owo side of the water, and hinted at insiucerily; ou their hatred was most persevering. Now, if the Dissenters boped to this side, all forbearance and moderation ; on the other, alle vehemence receive any benefit by showing how near they were to the Church, they land turbulence! and these two individuals, he said, guided the public deceived themselves. Tbe nearer they proved themselves to be, the worse inind of Ireland. There was not a Protestant in that country who did not would they be bated. (Hear!)

dread some great convulsion from the concession of the Catholic Claims POLICE BILL.

(Cries of No, no ! accompanied with a deep groan ;) and scarcely a The Police Magistrates' Bill was read a third time. In answer to a Catholic in Ireland who did not expect to gain something inore than a mere question, Mr. Peel said that be had prepared a clause confining the punish- leligibility to office. In wbatever light the Protestants of Ireland viewed ment of hard labour in the cases of persons convicted of misdemeanours this question, they saw nothing which was calcolated to diuinish the to such only as should be of a fraudulent nature.-This clause was agreed danger of concession, or to satisfy any reasonable mind that the principles to, and the bill passed.

of the Catholic Church bad undergone the slightest change! Tuesday, April 19.

Lord Milton contended that the Hon. Member had read history with CATHOLIC CLAIMS.

little adrantage, and had stated only half the case. Both Catholics and ProA number

ror petitions, chiefly against the Clains of the Catholics, were lestants had acted with violence and indiscretion : but the question was, presented from various parts of the country; several of thein were from

Sparts of the country ; several of their were from bow were they now to proceed? Things could not remain as they were, the Wesleyan Methodists.--Mr. BROUGUAM made some very pleasant and conciliation and kindness was the wisest policy. remarks on the one from Grantham, two of the signatures to whichi, he Mr. North said he was delighted with the manly speech of Mr. said, were those of convicts, and two others were neither more por less Brownlow, and rejoiced at the signal triumph which truthi had thus than the keepers of brothels. These two, he supposed, had observed the obtained over error. (Hear, hear!) He was convinced that concession was mention of what they conceived to be their rival-the Lady of Babylon ; absolutely necessary for the security of the empire. As for the conduct of and without knowing exactly the object of the Perion, they might have Dr. Doyle and Mr. O'Connell, alluded to by the Hon. Member (Mr. Dawsou) thought, that by signing it, they would receive practical relief in suppres- was it not obvious, that two different causes would lead to different effects sing a rival competitor !--Sir M. CuOMELEY said, that he knew nolbing One tone (says Burke) one style of language, to the conciliating friend, of these brotbel-keepers, and solemnly declared that he qever entered another to the proud and insolent foe. In Ireland those men spoke the such places. [This warm declaration occasionelt much laughter in the honest sentiinent and language of the heart when starting under a sense House. 1-To the course of his observations, Mr. Brougham had said, that of wrong, and irritated by injustice. But the moment you changed your many of the petitioners were so ignorant, that they had only put their tone and discussed with them calmly in a Coinmittee those measures mark to the Grantham petition; but be subscquently corrected this state- wbich might lead to an adjustment of the differences of Ireland, thai ment, and avowed that his information was erroneous.- Mr. W. Sutu, moment their sentiments and feelings were changed, and their expressions remarking upon the petition of the Dissepters against the Catholics, ob- were changed along with them. (Hear, hear!) Six centuries bad served, that the Dissenters generally were not hostile to them ; that, out elapsed since the English power had been establisbed in Ireland, and in of 2000 congregations, not cuore than five or six had appeared before the that period what changes had taken place !-a new world had been disHouse in opposition ; but the Wesleyan Methodists, who were not pro. I covered; the reformation had been brought about; but the Irisb, it was perly Dissenters, had been mixed up with them.- Mr. Scarlett presented said, reárained the same, resisting the assaults of time! Did Gentlemen a petition in favour of the Catholic Claions from the English Bir, signed I believe, that during that long period the Catholic religion bad rewained by 136 names, and took occasion to compliment his brethren for ihrir maltered; and that it was now professed in the same blindness as tben? learning, talents, and integrity, in which, he said, they were now more There was but one thing immutable, and that was human nature. If the distinguished than at any former. period.-lo this testimony, Mr. policy of the State were based on its principles, it would be permanent as BROUGHAM most cordially joined.-Lord Nugent then presented a the rock on which it was fixed. Feelings of affection would be called petition from the English Catbolice. pravime for a removal of their l forth by kindness and stront wonld always be excited bv insult and

injary. Let the House choose this basis for their proceedings, and what-vents of the bill; and he entertained a perfect conviction, that, although ever theologians might urge of professions not changing, the House might the measure might be delayed for a season, it must speedily succeed. (Loud rely, that the Catholics would receive kindness with gratitude, and cheers.) farour with augmented loyalty. The dangers apprehended from con.! Mr. CANNING observed, that bowever great the real and strong the Cession were remote and imaginary, while those which resulted from sincerity of the petitioners against the Catholics, they had certainly shown deaying the claims were near and imminent. Was it wise to add to the much ignorance respecting the subject upon which they had deemed it discontent of 6,000,000 of men; to look only to remote and barely possible proper to pronounce. His object, by the present Bill, was to place the daegers, and exclude from view present disasters? Some boldness was Catholics on the same footing as other Dissenters. (Hear, hear!) He consistent with true wisdom; some inconvenience must be encountered ; | did not wish the removal of all political disabilities on account some dangers must be met; and he thought it was better to meet the He was for a Predominant Church ; but certam petitions fr

Dis dangers wbich were seen, than to legislate for those which could not be senters had much surprised him. What were the objections to the Cathoknown.

lic belief? One doctrine was transubstantiation. God forbid, that Mr. Johs DALY said he had a deep stake in the country, and was within those walls he should enter on 'a discussion of the Christian faith! persuaded, that if this measure were lost, property in Ireland would lose But when we regret that one man believes in transubstantiation, and prohalt ils value. If the House should now dash the cup of hope from the 1 ceed so far as to exclude bim from Parliament in consequence of tbat hipe of the Catholics, be would answer neither for the peace nor security belief, let it not be forgotten that the man who believes in consubstantia. of property or of his country.

tion sits at our side, and enjoys every privilege of the Constitution. He Sir N. COLTHURST was persuaded that nothing would so much tend to did not profess to enter into the niceties of those doctrines, but he who strengthen the Protestant Church as to remove all the restrictive laws on could distinguish so accurately between them, as to pronounce of the peothe Catholics..

ple who entertain the one that they cannot be loyal subjects, and of those Mr. GOULBOURN was satisfied that the admission of the Catholics to who maintain the other, that they can, must possess a minute conception, all the honours of the State, would be dangerous for the Constitution, which may be useful to bim in disputation, but cannot be of the smallest whick considered the Church as part of the State ; and he thought it was service in any of the common purposes of life (A laugh). All Churches better to meet this danger on the old principle of exclusion, rather than to are in their nature exclusive; but when we make it a prominent charge admit the Catbolics into office, and afterwards provide against the danger against the Catholic Church that they are exclusive, let us not forget the to our Church Establishment by tests and securities. He admitted that Athanasian Creed (Hear, hear!), wbich says, after enumerating the the present state of things bad in it something dangerous, but in bis sublime mysteries of our religion, that “the man who does not believe opinion the remedy proposed would not remove the one danger, while it | them will be damned" (Hear, hear!). For that Church to say, that would augment another. The Hon. Member, while proceeding in his the Catholic Church is exclusive, amounts to an absurdity from which speecb, was greatly interrupted by loud cries of “ Adjourn, adjourn !" | the understanding recoils, and which nothing but prejudice can account and, after some conversation, it was agreed to adjourn the debate till for. Much stress is also laid on the doctrine of absolution, which has Thursday.

been grossly misrepresented. Every person who inquired candidly into Wednesday, April 20.

the subject knows that the Catholic Church professed to offer no more There being only 30 Members present al four o'clock, the House was than a conditional absolution to the penitent. If that be the case, he would adjourned.

ask any man to read a sentence in our own Prayer-book on the Visitation Thursday, April 21.

of the Sick, where be will see the very same doctrine, asserted in the THE CATHOLICS --ADJOURNED DEBATE.

very same words. (Hear, hear, hear!) It is on the condition of sincere Many petitions were presented, some in favour of the Catholic Claims, repentance, of renouncing sin, and determining to lead a new life, that but the larger number in opposition to them. Among them was one from salvation is promised on the authority of Scriptore, by the Clergy of both 3,000 inhabitants of London, Westminster, and Southwark, presented by

Churches. He did not mean to say, that the shades of difference are not Ald. THƠMPSON, who said the signatures had been affixed in three days. wide enough to make him rejoice that we have separated from the Church Mr. MARTIN observed, that a friend of his, on Friday, was accosted by a of Rome; but he did say, that they were not wide enough to justify us in little charity-boy opposite the London Tavern, who requested him to go

denouncing the opinions of the Roman Catholics, as incompatible with the 10 and sign this petition. He went in, and saw our sheets of parchment discharge of their duties as good subjects, and useful Members of the State. upon the table with names affixed to them ; but when be asked to see the He did not dra

He did not draw the comparison invidiously, but he was surprised, when a petition, he was told it was not there! (Laughter, and Hear, hear! He question came before them for the admission of Sectaries, that they could was further told that twenty gentlemen had met and agreed to the pro think of quarrelling with the Catholic upon grounds such as described when ceeding, and that he night subscribe towards « getting the petition up." we sit by the side and vote in the House with those who deny the divinity How could socb a petition be considered as expressing the sentiments of of our Saviour. (Hear, hear!) If theological tenets were to have any the inbabitants of the metropolis ? Persons signed it without knowing weight, that denial is surely a stronger badge of dissent than any that what were its contents! Such conduct excited nothing but indignation.

can be charged against those who are to be affected by the Bill. Another Mr. Alderman THOMPSON admitted, that “ on one occasion” the person

of the objections insisted on is the overweening merit and efficacy which who had charge of the petition was out of the way, but it was accessible they ascribe

they ascribe to individual actions. This they certainly do; but would it At all other times.- Mr. MARTIN said, he had repeatedly asked, in vain,

not be more dangerous to a Slate to make good works nothing, and faith to see the petition, when he was told that there was no petition there!

everything? (Ilear, hear!) We are talking of the subjects of the State, (4 laugh) --Mr. BARING observed, it was pretty clear that this instrument

and I would prefer the man who insisted on the necessity of good works as had not been got up in a creditable way; and as he saw that no country,

part of his religious creed, to the man who considered himself coutrolled or even considerable town, had held a public meeting on the subject, it

in all his actions by an inexorable fate. We have had in Parliament, and was proof to him that the feeling of the country was against the opposers

in the bigbest offices of Government, Unitarians and Socinians, as he could of the Catholic Claims. (Hear, hear:)-Mr. ABERCROMBY alluded to the

easily prove. But then come ibe political objections; a Papist, it is said, vulgar prejudiccs wbich were attempted to be excited against the

cannot bear due allegiance to a Sovereign of this country, But who was Catholics. He said, that a meeting had been held, in which the speakers

it that brought a King to the block, and who was it that stripped Episcoasked the company, whether they were prepared to see the Protestants

pacy of its mitre? He would not say who they were, but they were not pablicly burnt by the Catholics as heretofore? This appeal to the bad

Papists. He was not enamoured of the doctrines of the Catholic Church, passions aod prejudices had been made by tbose who ought to have known

but the whole question for Parliament is, wliether this doctrine was ever better, namely-by the Established Clergy. (Hear, hear !)

held and acted on, or rather, whether it is now beld and acted on in a The adjourned debate was now resumed by Mr. GOULBOURN, who con

way to threaten danger to the Constitution ?--Mr. Canning proceeded to tended that the hill would greatly endanger the Constitution, and that the

contend, that the temporal authority of the Pope was denied by the Ca. securities proposed would be not only inefficient, but would give rise to

tholics; that a change was necessary, for it was an andoubted evil that endless disputes and heart-burnings.

millions of people should suffer on account of religious disabilities. We Lord Binding said, the only question was, as the Catholic Religion

had not made, but iuberited, the existing difficulties, but we had fortuexisted in Ireland, whether it should be placed in a condition to strengthen

nately the means of curing them, of remedying the ferocity and injustice or to weaken the state ? He thought the proposed measures would have

of the penal code. It was quite impossible to stand still we must go the most beneficial tendency, and would at once conciliate and strengthen

forward, and keep pace with the growing spirit of the times and the great the Empire.

change that had been wrought in the opinions of the world. His Hon. Mr. WALLACB was of opinion, that if they passed this bill at the

Friend (Mr. Goulburn) was panic-struck, and foresaw the overthrow of

the Constitution! This he had out the penetration to discern. , Was phy. present time, it would compromise the dignity of the House, as it would be supposed that it had been conceded as a peace-offering for having put

sical force to be employed? If so, he would give him one consolation in down the Catholic Association. [There was a great noise while this Hon.

his adversity, by telling him, that physical force is more likely to be di. Gentleman was giving his opinion.]

rected against a door that is shut, than against a door that is open. (Loud

laughter). But what was proposed to give is not political power, but the Mr. PORTMAN should give the measure his hearty concurrence, as he

capacity to possess it. The Protestant Crown and the Protestant popula. felt that its accomplishment would confer glory on Parliament, and infuse tion will have honourable prejudices enough to guard against any possible new yigour into the Constitution. (Cheers.)

mischief with as much precaution as any one can desire. His Right Hon. Lord VALLETORT said, ibat he had to avow himself another amongst the Friend had said that they will never be satisfied--tbat they will go on many converts that had been made to support this question (Cheers ;) and insisting upon more and more, until his prophecy respecting the over. he felt proud of the triamph his reason had. enabled him to achieve over throw of the Constitution is miraculously fulfilled. But can you suppose bis strong and early prejudices. He felt persuaded, if others would act that the Catholic gentlemen or the Catholic labourers, or the whole mass with equal sincerity, there would be many more deserters from the oppo. I combined, in all their gradations, can ever hope or think to seize the powers of the State ?Half a dozen Catholic Members wonld possibly concessions of a very different paturé would be demanded from us. (Heare find their way ioto the House, but, in a Session or two, he dared to say, I hear hear T-Mr. Pecl observed in conclusion, that he shoundste they would contrive to sii as easily beside them as they now did by the adhere to the course he had bitherto pursued of deeming all securities side of the Protestant Dissenters of whow they thought more favourably. insufficient by which Catholic inffueirce was not excluded from the Councte The question (said Mr. Canving) for consideration was not belber the boon to be bestowed shall now he given, and we have the grace to give it,

of the State, and froin the Legislature. When he compared the coedurt but whether we will take on ourselves the responsibility of withholding it,

now parsuing by this Protestant Parliament with the conduet of die unless our opponents can believe that the present state of Ireland will

Catholic Parliament of a neighbouring country, by which a law had brex continue that its beginning prosperity will go on increasing, and no

passed for punishing with the penalty of death those who committed shat evils be the consequence of now withholding this b:son, that no injury will

was called sacrilege, he inust say that he saw in that einen parison an addi. accrue to the Constitution to that Constitution, which is beld up to the

tional reason for proceeding 10 further. He could never engstut to any Irish as something for which to shed their blood, which you call on the

njeasure whicb diminished the security of our Protestret Establimbwent, Catbolics to love and support, because it is the picans of excluding bin

and thereby threatened the foundations of civil and religions liberty.

(Hear, hear, hear') from the same privileges as the rest of his fellow-subjects! It is nol pos- |

Mr. BrouGHAM said, that after the unanswerable spereb of the sible to reason with any sentient being in such a strain. There was in

| Secretary for Foreign Afairs, it was not necessary to ulter one sentene the state of things existing mischief, and the seeds of future mischief, and further on the great question, but he wished to utter a word or two'or the time for removing it was now come. In proportion as the country is other points. Aliuding to the measures intended to follow o n the rich and powerful; in proportion as it is free from external evils, and

bill, he observed that he should certainly come to their discussion with all mpidly increasing in internal wealth ; wheu it is unfolding iminense capa. the deliberation which their importance demanded with the rerer bilities which its warmest admirers bad licver anticipated; in proportion

of Constitutional principles-wiin an alačit at any thing that sarnaref as there is no room for fear froin abroad, no dread of danger al liome, just disfranchising any portiou of the people with a still grrater laria al ast in, that exact proportion are we in a condition to give the boon asked by thing that sa Youred of increasing the influence of the Crown, by the para the Catholics, without our conduct being liable to the muisconstruction of inent of a Hierarchy, appointed, it was true, loy a Commission of its o* its baring been forced from is by terror, or extorted by intimidation Prelares, but appointed under the approbation of the Crowli itself. He (Hear, heur.). Who can look on the high and balmy prosperity of our coufessed that ise was scared on the very threshold of this latter pripocountry, and not wish to make the freting stale-for every thing is fleet.

sition, by the passage in an Hon. Gent.'s speech, in which he said, “ pay ing-and not wish, I say, Sir, to makc this fleeting state onr own, and the Irish Clergy, and Government will have an Officer in erery parish." mark it by some signal act of beneficence, transmitting it to our posterity |

Greally disappointed should he be if he found that he could not agree ta as a testimony of our own gratitude, for the high favour shewn 118. ( Hear, hear!)-Mr. c. then proceeded to speak of the Bill and its provisions,

them; but beforc he agreed to thein he must be convinced thirt they wngld

leave ilie Constitution untouchent, and the rigirts of all parties, of the which he did at some lengib, as also of the measures that were to be connected with it, which he approved of; and he thus concluded his very

Protestant freeho!der, who was to get no boon, as well as the Catholic

freeholder, wlio was to get a boon, dinininhed. He inost be opp powerful speech :-" In our great and wonderful increase of prosperity,

vinced, that these measures would not render Catliolic Emancipation preg we have outgrown other rations, and it is in human nature to look on great

want with matter hostile to the conciliation of all classes of the 'chirmu prosperity with something like invidiousness. There is this feeling nito : the object which, next to emancipation itself, was the principal ara among other nations. They look to our ioternal state for some spot which he had in view. On tbe Catholic question itself he was quite clear. He. is to taint and destroy our Constitution, and where can they find it, where do they always direct their attention, but to Ireland, and the state of the

considered now, thal considerations of expediency, no lesi tbon considero

tions of right and justice, demanded the adoption of the Bilt. It stood on Catholics? There tbey look for the destruction of our power. I would disappoint our invidious friends. I would heal this raikling wound of

the ground of right, of expediency, almost of necessity. The safety s Ireland, so that not even a cicatrice should remain. If the Bill should

the empire depended on the conciliation of the people, and Parliament pass, it would produce this result; and I shall give my support to the

should should avail themselves of, perhaps, the last opportunity that would be

offered them of granting that as a favour which might otherwise, net immeasure.!!-(Loud and long.continued cheering).

probably, be extorted from them as a right. He rejoiced heartily that he Mr. Peet said, he did not attach much importance to the measnres

could anticipate with contidence that the result of that night's debate which were to follow the passing of this bill; but they offered no coin. would be a majority

would be a najority in favor of the Bill, so triumphant as to afford the best is dangers. He contended that the Protestant Succession was chance of its success in that other House of Parliament in which alone it now, for the first time, about to be shaken, inasmuch as the very Act I had hitherto been resisted. . . .

ich the bill proposed to repeal, enjoined that verr Oath of Supreinace Mr Trant rose (at three in the morning) amidst astounding cries of as one of the great securities of the Protestant establishment by law. Be“Question! Withdraw !” and the Gallery being cleared, the flouse the Bill of Rights that oath was enjoined, which demanded from all the divided for the Original Motion, 268; for the Amendment, 241;claimed political power the denial of any foreign, temporal or spiritual | Majority, 27. idfluence within the realm. The declaration of Supreinacy was considered

Friday, April 22. the great security'at the Revolution. We were bound to pause and deeols Sereral petitions, for and against the Claims of the Catholies, were preconsider, before we effaced such a distinguishing feature of the Constiented one of them by Sir THOMAS LETUBRIDGE, who look lint opportu. tation ; and that the declaration of Supremacy was a most important secu

wity of alluding to the charge of " ignorance" brouglo by Mr. Canning ring no man could deny. (Hear, hear!) Brit then it was alleged, that a ngainst the opposers of those claims. The Hon. Baronet seepies sensible sufficient security would be afforded by calling on the King to make a

jonched at this charge : he denied the imputation, and asserted ibat the declaration against the doctrine of transubstantiation and to be in com

Clergy rere a respectable and enlightened body of men. munion with the Church of England. He would not say that the Pro. | Mr. LittleTON brought in a Bill to regulate the Elmrtive Franchise is testantism of the Crown was not of itself most important. But the niost | Ireland, so far as related to the 40s. Freeholders. He did not mean lo excertain security was to surround the Throne with men whose views could I tend the provisions of the Bill to those freeholders who held under the not be hostile to the Protestantisın of the Governinent? while, by the same practice that prevailed in England. The bill would only refer to policy now proposed, facilities were afforded, to the risk of a danger freeholders whose votes were subject to registration. The sum which gate which otherwise conld not exist. His Riglie Hon Friend bad expressed 10 those individuals the riglit of voting at present, it was the object of this his surprise that those who believed in consubstantiation, should express Bill to raise. He would not state positively how high the qinlifenlion ruch hostile feelings towards others because they believed in transubu oilght to be raised; but, in his opinion, 10% per anuam would be ro eligt, stantiation. For This (Mr. Peel's) part, he did not quarrel with the reli. / ble analitication; that, however, he left entirely in the hands of the House gious doctrines of any man, as religious doctrines, but he must be allowed | A conversation arose ; but it was understood the discussion would take to say that he did think that there were certain doctrines professed by the place on the second reading. Roman Catholics that affected the temporal conduct of men. These were Jua Committee, the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER alluded in the the articles of Confession and the practice of Absolutiou, amongst a coin grounds on which it had been found expedient to place the laws relating munity that were not permitted io read the Scriptores in their native to the English distilleries on the same footing as those which prevailed in tongue. There was also the granting of indulgencies for seven years Scotland and Ireland ; lie stated generally the regulations which were t he (that was the limit) (A laugh), by which temporal punishment was take place, and moved various résolutions on the subject, which went to ... remitted. But he was asked if he should like things to remain as they reduction of the duties on spirits – Mr. W. SMITH objected in thre, Mm were ? Undoubtedly he thought that if the Catholics had any just grounds the ground that such reduction would injure the morals of the people ," of complaint, the subject should be investigated. As to the old penal | Mr. Hume held a different opinion'; and after some conversation i be remod! laws against the Catholics, so far was he from wishing them to be re. lutions were agreed to. enacted, that he rejoiced at their relaxation. All that lie was anxious to

| The sum of 70001. was granted unanimously, for the purchase of Mr. preserve, was the Protestant character of our Government and our Legis. Rich's collection of medals, coins, inanuscripts, &c. " which is to be adde"

ature. To all offices of state, but which had no influence on the admi- to the collection of the British Museum.
nistration of the Government, he was perfectly willing tbat the Catholics
should be adonitted. If, however, he were told that ihis was bigotry_if
be were told that it was impossible to abstain from giving the Catholic

FROM THE LONDON GAZETTES. religion the perfect toleration now sought, his answer was, that he was

Tuesday, April 19. enrry for it; and if such coocessions as those now reqnired were granted, DOWNING STREET, April 16.-The King has been pleased to appoint he was apprehenrire the time would not be very far distant when other Sir Thomas John Cochrane, Kot. Captaio 'in the Royal Nary, to be

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