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one up: In the back of the other, in town and country, in the course of her Cavalier Servente in the prime of life, and is seen digging in the a few weeks; they all go for nothing; they make nothing against the garden of the family in a grey jacket and white hairs thirty years after. English ch aracter in the abstract; the force of prejudice is stronger This does not look like a love of change. The husband is of course than the we. ght of evidence. The process of the mind is this; and always a fixture ; not so the Cavalier Scrvente, who is liable to be absurd as it appears, is natural enough. We say (to ourselves) we removed for a new favourite. In noble families, the lover must be are English, i 'e are good people, and therefore the English are good noble, and he must be approved by the husband. A young officer, people. We ca.ry, a proxy in our bosoms for the national character who the other day volunteered this service to a beautiful Marchioness in general. Our own motives are “ very stuff o' the conscience, and without either of these titles, and was a sort of interloper on the innot like those of bartasous foreigners. Besides, we know many tended gallant, was sent to Volteira. Whatever is the height to which excellent English people, and the mass of the population cannot be this system has been carried, or the level to which it has fallen; it does atected in the scale of morality by the outrages of a few ruffians, not appear to have extinguished jealousy in all its excess as a part of which instantly meet with the reward they merit from wholesome and the national character, as the following storv vill show: it is related excellent laws. We are not to be moved from this position, that the by M. Beyle, in his charming little work. 'entitat De l'Amour, as a great body of the British public do not live by thieving and cutting companion to the famous one in Dante: and I sha.." give the whole the throats of their nei ghbours, whatever the accounts in the news- passage in his words, as placing the Italian character en former as papers might lead us to suspect. The streets are lined with bakers', / well as later times) in a striking point of view.
" I allude," he says," to those truly touching lines in Dante : butchers', and baberdashers' shops, instead of night cellars and
. gaming-houses; and are crowded with decent, orderly, well-dressed - Deh! quando tu sarai tornato al mondo,
6. Ricordati di me, che son la Pia ; people, instead of being rendered impassable by gangs of swindlers
Sienna mi sê: dissecemi Maremma: and pickpockets. The erception does not make the rule. Nothing can
“ Salsi colui, che inannellata pria, be more clear or proper; and yet if a single Italian commits a murder
“ Disposando, m'avea con la sua gemma."- Purgatorio, c. 5. or a robbery, we immediately form an abstraction of this individual
“ The woman who speaks with so much reserve, had in secret under case, and because we are ignorant of the real character of the people
gone the fate of Desdemona, and had it in her power, by a single word, or state of manners in a million of instances, take upon us, like true
to have revealed her husband's crime to the friends whom she had left Englishmen, to fill up the blank which is left at the mercy of our
upon earth. borror-struck imaginations, with buigbears and monsters of every
“ Nello della Pietra obtained in marriage the hand of Madonna Pia, description. We should extend to others the toleration and the sus
sole heiress of the Prolomei, the richest and most noble family of Sienna. pense of judgment we claim; and I am sure we stand in need of it Her beauty, which was the admiration of all Tuscany, gave rise to a jeafrom those who read the important head of " ACCIDENTS AND OF- | lousy in the breast of her husband, that, envenomed by false reports and PENCES” in our Journals. Ii is true. an Italian baker some time ago | by suspicions, continually reviving, led to a frightful catastrophe. It is shot his wife up in an oven, where she was burnt to death; the heir not easy to determine at this day if his wife was altogether innocent, but of a noble family stabbed an old woman to rob her of her money; a Dante has represented her as such. Her husband carried her with him lady of quality had her step-daughter chained to a bed of straw and
and into the marshes of Volterra, celebrated then as now for the pestiferoits fed op bread and water till 'she lost her senses. This translated into
effects of the air. Never would he tell his unhappy wife the reason of
her exile into so dangerous a place. His pride did not deign to prevulgar English, means that all the bakers' wives in Italy are burnt
nounce either complaint or accusation. He lived with her alone, in & by their husbands at a slow fire; that all the young nobility are com
deserted tower, of which I have been to see the ruins on the sea-shore; mon bravos; that all the step-mothers exercise unheard-of and unre here he never broke bis disdainful silence, never replied to the questions lenting cruelty on the children of a former marriage. We only want of his youthful bride, never listened to her intreaties. He waited una striking frontispiece to make out a tragic volume. As the traveller moved by her for the air to produce its fatal effects. The vapours of this advances into the country, robbers and rumours of robbers fly before wwholesome swamp were not long in tarnishing features, the most beauhim with the horizon. In Italy,
tiful. they say, that in that age bad appeared upon the earth. In a few
monibs she died. Some chroniclers of these remote times report, that “ Man seldom is—but always to be robbed."
Nello employed the dagger to basten her end : she died in the marshes At Turin, they told me it was not wise to travel by a vetturilio to in some horrible manner; but the mode of her death remained a mysFlorence without arms. At Florence, I was told one could not walk tery, even to her contemporaries. Nello della Pietra survived to pass out to look at an old ruin in Rome, without expecting to see a Laza- the rest of his days in a silence which was never broken. Toni start from behind some part of it with a pistol in his hand “ Nothing can be conceived more noble or more delicate than the man* There's no such thing:" but hatred has its phantoms as well as fear; ner in which the ill-fated Pia addresses herself to Dante. She desires to and the English traduce and indulge their prejudices against other be recalled to the memory of the friends whom she had quitted so nations, in order to have a pretence for maltreating them. This young: at the same time, in telling her name, and alluding to her hus. moral delicacy plays an under-game to their political profligacy. I band, she does not allow herself the smallest complaint against a cruelty
inexampled, but thenceforth irreparable, and merely intimates that he am at present kept from proceeding forward to Naples by imaginary
I knows the history of her death, bands of brigands that infest the road the whole way. The fact is,
This constancy in vengeance and in
18, suffering is to be met with, I believe, only ainong the people of ihe South. that a cang of banditti, who had committed a number of atrocities | In Piedmont, I found myself the involuntary witness of a fact almost and who had their haunts in the mountains near Sonino, were taken similar: but I was at the time ignorant of the details. I was ordered op about three years ago, to the amount of two-and thirty ; four of with five-and-twenty dragoons into the woods that border the Sesia, to them were executed at Rome, and their wives still get their living in prevent the contraband traffic. On my arrival in the evening at this this city by sitting as models to artists, on account of the handsomeness wild and solitary place, I distinguished among the trees the ruins of an
ir dresses of their features and the richness of their dresses. As to courtesans,
As to courtesans. old castle: I went to it: to my great surprise, it was inhabited. I there from which one cannot separate the name of Italy even in idea, i
found a Nobleman of the country, of a very unpromising aspect ;. a man have seen but one person answering to this description since I came,
six feet in height, and forty years of age : he allowed me a couple of
| apartments with a very ill grace. Here I entertained myself by getting and I do not even know that this was one. But I saw a girl in white
up some pieces of music with my quarter-master: after the expiration of (an unusual thing) standing at some distance at the corner of one
some days, we discovered that our host kept guard over a woman whom of the bye streets in Rome; after looking round her for a moment, she we called Camilla in jest: we were far from suspecting the dreadful. Tag bastily up the street again, as if in fear of being discovered, and a truth. She died at the end of six weeks. I had the relancholy curioCoentryman who was passing with a cart at the time, stopped to look sity to see her in her coffin ; I bribed a monk who hrid charge of it, and ard, hiss after her. If the draymen in London were to stop to gape towards midnight, under pretext of sprinkling the holy water, he con. and foot at all the girls they see standing at the corners of streets in a ducted me into the chapel. I there saw one of those tine faces, which douhtal capacity, they would have enough to do. But the tide of are beautiful even in the bosom of death : she had a lar
of which I never shall forget the noble and expressive outline. I quilted public prostitution that pours down all our streets is considered by
this mournful spot; but five years after, a detachment of iny regiment some moralists as a drain to carry off the peccant humours of private
accompanying the Emperor to his coronation as King of Italy, I had the life, and to keep the inmost recesses of the female breast sweet and
whole story recounted to me. I learned that the jealous husband, the pure from blemish! If this is to be the test, we have indeed nearly
Count of , hail one morning fourid, hanging to his wife's bedside, derived at the Idea of a Perfect Commonwealth.
an English watch belonging to a youve man in the little town where they Cicisbeism is still kept up in Italy, though somewhat on the decline. I lived." The same day he took her to the ruined castle, in the midst of I have nothing to say in favour of that anomaly in vice and virtue. the forests of the Sesia. Like Nello della Pietra, he uttered not a single The English women are particularly shocked at it, who are allowed to
word. If she made him any request, be presented to her steroly and in hate their busbands, provided they do not like any body else. It is a
silence the English watch, which he had always about him. In this kind of marriage within a marringe; it begins with infidelity to end in con
manner he passed nearly three years with her. She at length fell a vic
i tim to despair, in the flower of ber age. Her husband attempted to disstancy; it is not a state of licensed dissipation, but is a real chain of paich the und
This story is interesting and well told. One such incident, or one from Sidmouth, which, Lord King said, was not handed for sis coatures page in Dante or in Spenser, is worth all the route between this and from door to door, as the Anti-Catholic one was, but it was ag' eed to at Paris, and all the sights in all the post-roads in Europe Oh Sienna la public meeting, and signed by the most respectable inhabitants. Upon if I felt charmed with thy narrow, tenantless streets, or looked de- i
Ithis Lord Rolle observed, that the petition he had presented was equally lighted through thy arched gate-way over the subjected plain, it was
respectably signed ; and he was surprised that the late Member for Was that some recollections of Madonna Pia hung upon the beatings of should exert himself to divide the Protestants, and dis arb the peacelui
| terford, who had been driven by the massacres from his own country: my spirit, and converted a barren waste into the regions of romance ! vale of Sidmouth.-Lord LIMERIC remarked, that a more respectable
Gentleman than the one so extraordinarily attackrd jy the Noble Lord. did not exis: in this or any other country, nor one w'no knew better how
to protect himself in the discharge of his riznts !- Lord ROLLE said he UNITED PARLIAMENT.
did not mean to throw any imputation on the Gentleman, who was cés.
tainly most respectable!
Friday, Arril 29.
Several Petitions against the Catholic claims were presented, one of
them from Newport Pagnell, whicha, Lord King remarhed, bore the sixUn a quietion asked by Lord LAUDERDALE in regard to the Corn Laws, nature of the Clerical Gentleman who some time ago committed two Dixword IWBRPOOL said, it was the intention of Ministers, early next Session, senters to Prison. Elis Petition, the Noble Lord, ihought, had certainly to puter upon a revision of the Corn Laws. His Lordship declared his not to boa-t of the signatures of riny dissenters.-- The LORD CHANCELLOR:
pinion that some alteration was necessary, and observed, that the in- / said the Clergyman was also a Magistrate; avid though any Magistrale portation price, 80s. for wheat, and so in proportion for other grain, fixed might make a mistake, lie had only acted by virtue of his ofñce! in 1815, was not applicable to the present condition of the country. He then briefly hinted at the changes which might be possibly proposed next
HOUSE OF COMMONS. session, and suggested that instead of the present system-1. Aduty might
Monday, April 25. .be imposed, retaining, however, the system of averages, and fixing a Petitions were presented for and against the Corn Laws (chiefly against) minimum at which importation should be prohibited, and a minimum against the Window Taxes, and the Catholic Claims. at which importation should be permitted without a duty :-Or,
CORN LAWS. 2. that a protecting duty should be imposed and levied withont reference A conversation arose on these Laws, on the presentation of the City to price ; the system of averages being entirely abolished. To this last | Petition against them, signed by 5,000 Merchants, Bankers, &c. wheur system his Lordship seemed to lean ; but he remarked, that in times of Mr. T. WILSON spoke of the evils arising from the present system, and general scarcity it would become impracticable to levy any duty upon the the great necessity of a speedy change. -Mr. Gooch remarked, that the Tood of a starving people, and that it would therefore be necessary to lodge | Agricultural Interest did not complain, though the Citizens did, whose somewhere the power of dispensing with the tax under particular eper trade was going on so prosperously, and who had nothing to do ou Satorgencies.
day, Sunday, or Mooday, but sinfi' themselses with roast beef and plansLord LAUDERDALE thought that a system which liad lasted two centuries pudding! The poverty (he added) of tbe Citizens of Lowon, was all a. should not hastily be departed from, and that the capital which had been bumbug. If ever there was a question before tlie House which called ein lumrked on land under long leases would be greatly affected by any for the exertions of the agricultural gentlemen, it ras this-did his Ma-alteration in the present laws.
jesty's Government intend to alter the present laws ?-if they did, the Lord King said, tbat the subject shonld at once be settled, as its agi agricultural gentlemen would be “ duller than the fat weed that sooin tation greatly affected the interests of all parties.
itself with ease on Lethe's wharf," if they did not exert tbeinsel ses CATHOLIC QUESTION.-ROYAL RESOLUTION !
against the measure. • Among several petitions presented against the Catholic Claiins, one was Mr. Huskisson said, that Government had no intention of proposiog presented by his Royal Highness the Duke of York, from the Dean aad any general revision of the laws during the present Session. Chapter of St. George's, Windsor. His Royal Highness said, “ From Lord Mutor said, he could not help regretting the course which the time when I gave my first vote on this question, to the present, I have | Ministers appeared likely to take upon the salirct, and it was their never seen any reason to regret or to change the line which I then bounden duty to come 10 a decision npou it as speedily as possible. took. I have every year seen more reason to be satisfied with my (Ilear, hear!) He would ask whether it was right that such a state of decision. When the question comes regularly before your Lordships, it things should continue until the next Session of Pariianient, (heur, hear!) will be discussed much more fully and ably than I can do it; but there are and, perhaps, until a general election took place ? At a period like the two or three subjects on which I am anxious to louch: ore is, that you
present, when the prosperity of the country was increasing, and when the place the Church of England in a situation in which no other Church in
minds of men were cool and undisturbed, it was, that a question of such ilmom world is placed : tbe Roman Catholic will not allow the Church of
vast national importance should be discussed. . England or Parliament to interfere with his Church, and yet he requires
MR. ROBERT GOURLAY. you to allow biar to interfere with your Church, and to legislate for it. Mr. Hume presented a petition from Fileshire, praying that h commisThere is another subject, still more delicate, on which I cannot, however, sion might be appointed to inquire into the case of Mr Robert Gourlar. help en ying a few words. I speak (1 beg to be understood) only as an | The petitioners were impressed with an opinion that Mr. Gourlay had individual : I desire not to be understood as speaking for any body else :
been upjasily treated. .but consider, my Lords, the situation in whicle you place the Sovereign. Mr. Peel said, that Mr. Gonrlay was not confined by Goreroinent, but By the Coronation Oaili, the Sovereign is bound to maintain the Church
merely because he was unable to give the security required Established in her doctrine, discipline, and rights, in violate. An Act of Mr BroUGHAM was satisfied, that the unfortunate gentleya had been Parliament inay release future Sovereignis and other men from this maili, lill-treated in Canada, and the outrage in the lobby of the lease arose puc or from any other oalh to be taken ; boi can it release an individual who of it. It was most absurd to suppose, though such a notion had gone has already taken it? I speak, I repeat it again, as an individual; but I abroad, that he (Mr. Brougham) had anything to do with Mr. Gourlay's entreat the House to consider the siluatiou in which the Sovereign is thus present confinement. The assault upon himn was committed merely beplaced. I feel very strongly on this whole subject; I cannot forget the
very strongly on mis. whore subject; I cannot forget the cause, on presenting a petition from Mr. Gourlay regarding the ellucadeep interest which was taken upon it by one now no more : and the long tion of the poor, he (Mr. Brougham) had not sufficiently eutered into and unliaj py illness in whichao(llere his Royal Highness seemed to be his case, a affected. j I have been brought up from my early years in these principles; Mr. Peer said, that the course pursued towards Mr. Golay was only and from the time when I began to reason for myself, I have entertained that of every ordinary case. In reference to the outrage in the lobbr, them from conviction ; and in every situation in which I inay be placed, Mr. Gourlay had excused himself afterwards by saying that he had only will maintain then, so help ine Gou!"
followed High Example by scourging sinners in the Temple--(a laugh). Tuesday, April 26.
Mr. J. WILLIAMS said, that he had bern intrusted by dir. Gourlay with Several petitions were presented, against the Clains of the Catholics, a petition, complaining of the decay of his liealih from confinement, but from Protestant Dissenters and others; "on which Lord Holland obserspeaking in bigh terms of the conduct of the Governor of the House of ted, that the degrading and cruel law, the Test Aci, had been passed at a Correction time very different from the present, and lie was greatly surprised that any Mr. Peec said he bad gisen directions that every indulgence should be Protestant Dissenter should consider it fit to be maintained under an altered shewn to Mr. Gourlay. state of things.
The petition was laid upon the table. Some conversation arose respecting the Corn Laws, on the presentation
THE COURT OF CHANCERY. of the City Petition praying for it revision of them. Nothing passed, Mr J. WILLIAMS begged to inquire whether the report of the Comunisbowever, of any importance.
sioners appointed to inquire into the Delays in Chancery was likely to Wednesday, April 27.
be made shortly, and what would be its tendency? Several Petitions were presented against the Callsolie Claims (ehiefly Mr. Courtenay, one of the Committee, said he could not hold out any from the Protestant Clergy,) against any alleration in the Coro Laws and particular time when the Report would be made. He could, however, in favour of the Equitable Loan Bill.
suy, that the Commissioners had made a great deal of inquiry. Thursday, April 28.
n el cabel: Cum
potitione from varione porte forandring the Chu Taweera
Assessed Taxes and Catholic Claims. In one of the latter (from Buck. | be found. (A laugh) It did not, then, become the House to be particu· fostleigh, near Ashburton) the Petitioners gave as a reason for their oppolarly nice on the subject of perjury!-Officers of the army did not hesitate sition, ihat “the most zealous supporters of those Clains are found, with lo declare, upon their honour, when about buying a commission, that they fow, and (unless perhaps in one or two cases) considerable exceptions, had given the regulation price only, when they knew that they had paid exong the public men roho are invariably seen in the van of those who are double. (Hear, hear!) Even--and it grieved him to state it-evet tas arraned against our happy Constitution in Church and State."" (Heur, Church was not without stain! (A laugh). Reverend Persons werë kcar.")
the babit of talking of perjury as a crime not to be heard of without aboIRISH ELECTIVE FRANCHISE BILL.
mination-they declared that truth and frankness were the essence of reliMr. LITTLETON moved the second reading of this Bill, the object of gion. If, then, perjury were criminal when committed by laymen, it which, he said, was not to interfere with any vested interests, but to check must be ten times inore odious when practised by charcbmen: and yet # most unconstitutional and mischievous practice, that of creating 40s. what did these Reverend Persons do? He would suppose that a Reverend freehol.lers for corrupt purposes, by wbich means the persons of respecta- Gentleman was about to be inducted into a bishoprick of about 4,0001. hility, the real freeholders, were kept down. He said the Irish 40s. free- a year. He declared, in the name of God, that he felt inwardly moredholders were generally considered as part of the live-stock on an estate ; (a laugh yes, that he felt inwardly moved at that moment by the Holy that they had lillle choice in the election of Members of Parliament; that Ghost to take upon himself the office of Bishop and the administration they were frequently induced to commit perjury, in order to obey the thereof, and for no other reason, althoughi be knew at the same tiare that con mands of their landlords, whom they seldoin resisted, except in cases he had opposed the Catino
he had opposed the Catholic question and the claims of ibe Dissenters ont of pecolja energency; and that to raise the qualification from 40s. to
a thousand occasions. (Hear! and a laugh). How all this could go fors 101. would be a real gain and benefit to all parties.
ward was a mystery which he professed himself unable to understand ; but Mr. b. Fogter observed, that the existence of the evil was adınitted,
he supposed it was calculated for the end which the parties had jo view. hat the path whicb it was intended to lead out of it might be so replete
He could not, however, help thinking that Members who took one oath, with dauger as to be worse than the evil itself. If the Hon. Gentleman
and the Bishops and Clergy who took another, were the last persons in the was prepared 10 opply his remedy in every description of fictitious free
world who should be so exquisitely squeamish with regard to the Irish bolds in Ireland, he was ready to go along with him. (Hear, hear!)
Catholic freeholders, whom they had all along treated as if they were the The rock upon which his scheme would be wrecked seemed this he
only mortals under heaven who had ever been guilty of perjury.(Hear)) He carefolly avoided meddling with the fictitious freeholds when they assum
would say nothing with regard to Custom house oaths, because they went ed the garb of fees simple, but he attacked them with a bold hand indeed |
to the support of the revenue. (A laugh.) As to the policy of the when they were only terms for lives
present measure, he felt staggered, wben he saw one of the most disinteMr. BROUGUAM complained that the measure was novel in its nature,
rested Statesmen and truest Patriots, in or out of tbe House (Sir J. Newon the face of it sounded in disfranchiseinent, and was grounded on con
port) strongly in its favour-bat he had reason to fear that it would not tradictory evidence.
conciliate the Irish people. The Catholic question ought to be decided It was urged by some of its advocates, that the elective franchise in Ireland, as in England, was too large, and that the
upon its own merits, and not in the way of compromise : legislators ought
not to be bribed to support obe measure by passing another, and great tumerous voters were found troublesome! Would not this alone inake theun pause? The Polirical Economisis, who carried their dogmati.
caution should be used when the question was that of narrowing the elector cal sutious almost as far, and with a similar spirit, as the religious perse
tive franchise. He therefore demanded enquiry into the subject. It was seculors of other times, said they ought to pass this bill for the purpose
said, that by agreeing to the present Bill in ihe dark, the Catholic question of checking the abundant population of Ireland: but he saw nothing in
would be carried. He thought that those persons who said so wore reckThe esidence to hear out this assertion. The great subdivision of property
oning without their hosts ; at all events, they were reckoning without was laid muciu stress upon; but the reasoning urged was altogether worth.
their Lords. (A luugh). It was not for him to allude to what passed in less, for it was not borne out by the facts.
another House of Parliament, except as a matter of history ; bat be would
The 40s. freeholders on lease. bolds for life were not the cause of the mischiefs complained of, and the
say, that he had heard of passages in another place which gave him an picture drawn of their being driven up to the poll like slaves could be seen
aların, not only for the good government but the safety of the Constitution
of this country, and for the stability of the monarchy as by law esta. in E:gland as wrll as lreland. English landlords could say, not to
blished loud cries of Hear!)--and at the Revolution of 1688 settled. O'Drisen! and O'Shanrlnessy, but to Thompson and Jackson, “ You
The passages to which he alluded had given him so deep and serious an xhall have a renewal of the leases of the farmis on which your ancestors hase lired for generations, on one condition, which is, that you shall qua.
aların, that he protested before God be could not believe his ears when tho lils pourselves to vote for a Kniglic of the Shire, by getting a 40s free.
news was brought to bin that morning. It was impossible even now to bold " Of course Thomson and Jacksou found it necessary to consent.
believe what was stated. The papers were filled with libels that must be
false. No man living could believe, that a Prince of that House which The freehold was a mere cover, but the tenants kept it for the sake of
sat on the revolutionary settlement of 1688, should promulge to the world, their farins, just as the Irish freeholder kept his boy. (A laugh). With
that happen what would, when he came to fill another situation, if allout the bog, the Irish 40s. frecholder would be no more au evil than the
Mr. PLUNKETT rose to order, and Mr. Brougham sat down amidst 40s. frrpholder in England would be without the farm to which he was
tremendous cheering, which lasted for some ininutes. Silence at length a unexpel. 1o England, as in Ireland, it was the practice for tenants to be
being restored, Mr. Plunkeit expressed his regret that he had not taken brought up in droves to vote al elections. The counterparts of the
an earlier opportunity of calling the Hon. and Learned Gent. to order. O'Driscols and O'Shaughnessys in England were obliged to do just what
He said he felt himself bound, for the preservation of decency-for the their landlords pleased, unless they had the good fortune to bave a lease
sake of the Illustrious Person alluded 10-and for the sc ke of that cause on parchment, unshackled with any condition. The evil lay in the natu
in which he could not help thinking that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman ral influence of property. (Hear!) This influence existed in England os
i was deeply interested, to prevent him going farther into a discussion well as in Irelauil, and it must exist everywhere. Much had been said respecting the horrid practice of perjury; but was this debasing system
"which he was sure bis deliberate judgment would hereafter condeme.
(Hear!) coulded to Ireland ? And did it become those whom he was addressing to 'The Speaker observed, that if the anticipation of the Right Hon. declare, that they could not contemplate without abhorrence that a man should swear he possessed certain qualifications, which, in fact, he did not possess
Gentleman was correct, unquestionably the further proceeding in the
course which he had commenced would be most disorderly. -to bold up their haods, and bless God that in this country people could
Mr. Brouguam said that the Right. Hon. Geotleman had proceeded not be found, as in Ireland, lo take the dreadful and sacrilegious oath that
somewhat prematurely. (Ilear!) No Member had a right to interrupt they were worth 40s. a year to rush down with a bill to save the souls of
another because he birnseif expects that that other Member is going to the Irish peasants! (A langh) Did it become them to do this? --The ery was, disfranchise the Irish freeholders, and put a stop to perjury. Let
| be disorderly. Good God! was ever such a thing heard of? It was the the House take care that they did not disfranchise themselves. He was
privilege of a Member to go on free from all interruption, until he had
said something disorderly. (Hear, hear') It was an unworthy course credibly informed that certain Members of a former Parliament--of course
for the House to say, " You may attack the Bishops--the Woolsack-the it could not be of the present that he was speaking-(a laugh)-did sacri.
Lords, collectively or individuaily, if you will; but if you only glance at legiously make oath in the Lord Steward's office, one day, and at the
the Heir Presenprive of the Crowli, privilege sball rise up against you, table of the House, on another, that they were worth 3001 a year in lands
even before the words which are to constitute oflence can be uttered and tenements, when some of them were not worth a shilling, and others
an Hog. and Learned Member (himself the most disorderly in all the had no fund at all! (Laughler.) Suppose that the Irish freeholders
world) shall get up, and complain that you are out of order, not because should bring such a charge against the House, be should be without an answer to it. He might, it was trie, look big and say, “ Do you know
anything irregular has been said, but-quia timel-merely because he
apprehends that soineibing possibly may be !” (Great cheering.) what you are doing, in importing systeinatic perjury to the Members of this House? It is a breach of privilege, and I will send you to Newgale” To
Mr. Wodehousg rose again to order. He said that the Hon. and Newgate they must go, for he could have no other means of getting rid of
Learned Gentleman was out of order siill. If he was not, let him explain ibe charge. ( Hear! and a laugh.) It could not be denied, that it was
what those words, quia timet, meant. (Excessive laughter and cheering.) the practice of Senators to do chat for which the Irish freeholders were | Mr. Peer said, he would put it to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman How to be disfranchised. The fathers of honourable Members had done bimself, wliether he would introduce a topic likely to unfit the House fo so before them, and they, their worthy sons, swore perhaps more glibly the immediate business before it? that they were worth 3001, a year in land ; nay, they went further--they Mr. BROUGHAM insisted that the fact to which he alluded was a mos did what some of the Irish freeholders could not do, because they did not important one as it regarded the ineasure before the House. Twenty-four koos bow to wrile-hey gave in a scliedule specifying very minutely the hours back, gentlemen might have expected to carry Catholic Emancipa
would now say that he had any hope left of so carrying it? (Hear, hear!) in that House. It was contended that the object of the bill was to assi.. Would not the ominous news of the day go forth as the knell of despair, milate the practice in Ireland to that in England. The bill could do no rung over, the Catholic question, and those interested in it for ever? such thing. It went only to oblige the freeholder to swear to 101. insteadı
Hear, hear!). Ought not the knowledge of that news to operate in the of 40s. but if so mnch abuse already existed by persons swearing to 40sa. House? He said that it ought; and the conclusion which lie drew from freeholds, which they did not possess, what security did this bill afford! it was this fair, honest warning was given to the Catholics and to the against parties swearing to a higher amount? Whul garanter did it afford country. The Carholics had a very honest and avowed obstinacy to deal against perjury in the one case inore than in the other? (Hear, hear!) with; for no inonarch who ever sat iipon the English throne had ever been It was said that this bill, concurrently with the Catbolic relief bill, would prepared for such resistance to his people on their behalf as was now not raise the Catholic from the state of degradation in which he is now placed. only meditated, but openly avowed. Then he (Mr. Bronghum) held up Adimitting that argument for what it was worth, it might be an answer to this warning, and repeated it, for the benefit of Ireland and of Irish Mem. the Catholic for the loss of his franchise; but what answer would it be bers; and what he said to them was, “ Do not believe that anything will to the Protestant for the sacrifice of his constientional privilege, which he ever carry the Catholic question but a powerful majority in the House of had never abused? (Hear!) The bill was not calculated to strengthen Commons.” But if, instead of such majorities as 17 and 27, to save tlie the Protestant interest, or to assimilale the freehold tegures in breland to whole empire from a convulsion, which the events of the last 24 hours led the freehold tenures in England, or to remedy any of the esits which men still more anxiously to think of—if, to save at once England and Mr. O'Connell bad described as arising out of the present system of 40s. Ireland, a large increase in the majority on the Catholic question might | freeholds. be hoped for, the present moment the present reign-was the time for its / Sir H. PARNBIL highly approved the Bill; and so did Mr. V. FETZappearance. (Hear!) A little while, and it would be too late. A little GERALD, MrR MARTIN, and Mr. BROWNLOW, Test-a liulle slumbering-a little folding of the hands to sleep-aliltle Mr. C. H. Hutchinson regretted that he was obliged to see this matter nore pausing in apathy, and we should find DESPOTISM and INTOLERANCE in a far different light, and berged, as the firm advocate of the Carbolic. coming upon is like an armed man; and the power of pacifying Ireland question, to disclaim the incidental aid offered by the promoters of this and of saving England would be gone for ever (Loud cheering) He Bill; for what, after all, did this Bill call for? For a remedy which ibe:
Mr. Brougham) was no lover of discord, (Laughter from the Ministerial / gentry of Ireland had already in their hands-namely, to abandon the benches) and those who would deem him such were themselves only not practice of corruption among their tenants, to correct their own disgrace. lovers of discord, because they preferred to what they called discord and ful conduct in creating these 40s. nominal freeholders, and then there commotion the solitude and silence of passive obedience, and bending would be no room for such a measure as this. (Hear, hear!). Let that before absolute and uncontrolled despotism. A charge against consci. I portion of the gentry of Ireland who spread corruption among the people. entions frankness was the last he would bring against any man. But it begin by reforming themselves, and then they veed not appear before Pare. did happen that the men sometimes wbo had most of that frankness, un liament with such a bill as this, which adınitted their own disgrace, while less at the same time they were men of enlightened understaodine, were. I it proscribed the most humble part of their own dependents. They arst of all others, the most irreclaimable; and that in fact all hope of recalling I made the poor mao their tool, and then they called upon Parliament lo them from their errors--so help them God! (Great cheering and laughter) make him their victim. (Hear, hear!) But after all, was there more was but visionary. Under these circumstaoces, it did become the House corruption in the lower body of the elective franchise 10 reiand thanh to embrace the very earliest opportunity of going up to the other branches England ? In behalf of the poor Irish he denied that there was; and he of the Legislature with an overpowering majority up in the Catholic was astonished that his Hon. Friend the Member for west er w question. There was not an hour to be lost, for the time might come. I think so. and consent to diminish a principle for which he bad always been and Honourable Gentlemen would do well to recollect it, when the so unqualified a supporter: unanimous vote of both Houses of Parliament, joined to the expression of Mri GOULBURN contended that the measure merely gave them a feopinion from the whole country, wonld have no other consequence than 10 | mote security against an immediate danger. lead to an irreparable breach with the Crown. (Much cheering.) Mr. B. Lord MILTON was of opinion that the measure would operate as a blowe sat down, ámid loud and continued cheering, reminding the House that against that Oligarchy, which, though he himself was a part of it, he they could pot fail in carrying the question of Calliolic Claims without wished to see reduced. He was anxious to raise a middle order of yeoinvolving England in the deepest peril and confusion.
manry in Ireland ; and, coupled as the Bill was with the question of CaSir J. NEWPORT contended that the proposed measure would not trench tholic Emancipation, he should support ". upon any one existing constitutional right.
Mr GRATTAN could not possibly support a measure which went to disMr PLONKETT insisted, also, that the measure did not go to disfran. I franchise the people of 32 counties, because of the corrupt practices in a chise a single individoal whatever, or to dispossess one human being of few of thein Let the gentry of Ireland begin the work of reforın among his rights. It was in itself absolutely a good one, and though it had even themselres, and not introduce this moustrous precedent of popular disquabeen cruel and unjust, he would support it on account of the measure to lifcalinn.
lification. (Heur!) be coupled with it. The act of 1793 had begun at the wrong end, and
Sir F. Burdert thought that the qnestion of Reform was totally distinct let the rabble into the elective franchise, while it slut 011t the gentry :]
from the present. A certain sacrifice was necessary 10 secure the posever since the country gentlemen of Ireland had deliberately set about
session of an invaluable boon. There had arisen a inutual feeling of contrying how many freeholders they could make, for the express purpose
cession which it would be well to cultivate ; and it really appeared to him of trafficking with them. The valuable property was not the freebold,
that it was taking up a heavy responsibility, to go against the declared but the freeholder; the latter was so entirely a man of straw. that if a sense of gentlemen who had consented to wave their own interests in prosecution for perjury happened to be instituted against bin, it was met favour of a common measure for the common benefit. Such thotives of by this man-the freeholder--disappearing altogether. After having the public conduct, however beautiful in theory, could not be tolerated by miserable 40s. leasehold made over to him, which was not worth 40d. the
any practical nen who preferred real advantages to those which were wretched being was actually compelled to swear to his freehold at the
more abstract and for that reason less to be expected, though iu prospect command of bis master, even although moral or religious scruples
more perfect. Cheers.) He rejoiced in the conciliatory effects wbieb disinclined him from doing so. He would not be deterred from an endea.
had been produced between people of two religions by the examinations, voir lo get rid of this most appalling grievance, by bearing it said that which had conduced to destroy mutual prejudices. He concluded by an Members of Parliament and Clergymen did, under some circumstances,
earnest entreaty to all friends of Emancipation, to sink their differences swear falsely. He had taken a list of the number of freeholds in Ireland;
upon the question, for the sake of succeeding in that object. and looking at the proportion of the 40s. voters, and those of a higher
Mr. Denmax wished to justify his adherence to those principles which class, he found that the former were as 18 or 20 10 l of the 2012 and 507 | (with pain and surprise he bad witnessed it) the Hon. Baronet now disvoters. It was thus that the reall, independent voters were overlaid bval owned, though they had for many years supported them together. He host of voters who really had no stake in the country, and who, in general,
could not be persuaded to look upon this in the light of a tritling sacrifice only represented the opinions of the landlord. But it was against the
to obtain a more valuable blessing. The inference atteinpted to be drawn abolition of a franchise so abused, that the Hon. Member for Corfe Castle
was, that if the Catholic disabilities could be removed, it inattered not (Mr. Bankes) fired with a constitutional zeal for the privileges of the
under what system of laws Ireland should be governed. He would make people (Cheers und laughter), had objected - The measure, he was con
no such concession. The question did not belong to Catholic more than to vinced, would give general satisfaction in Ireland; but if the Catholic
Protestant, nor to Ireland more than to England. It belonged to them question was carried without it, much dissatisfaction would prevail.
all, and they ought to view it with equal alarm. He was not to be told Mr. BANKES maintained that the Bill was an uncalled for violation of
olarinn of lihat they could form no precedent for invading the franchise of England, the rights of the people, and he moved that it be read this day six
becanse he knew on what slight pretences things of this sort were raised months.
into precedents. He world arm against the most distant approach of a Mr. Peel was ready to admit that there did exist grrat abuses in the theory so preg
theory 80 pregnant with evil consequences, aud be iberefore must oppose present mode of exercising the clective franchise in Ireland, and he was
as the present measure. prepared to consider any remedy for the evil But, in looking to the ! Mr. ABERCROMBY thought that the measure would he good for Ireland measure proposed, he was convinced that it would be inost in indiciously at any time, as it would deprive a certain class of Irish gentry of the and unjustly applied. He did not mean to assert, that if it could be means of jobbing,--a disgraceful aod ruinous system ;- for the 40s. freeproved the passing of this bill would strengthen the Protestant interest in holds were the raw material out of which the Irish geutleuian manufacIreland, he would still continue opposed to it; but under any circumn | tired all his jous! stances he would have great hesitation in supporting any measure which Mr. LAMBTON said he should not hav“, trespassed on the House with bis would make a change in the elective franchise as it noro stood. On this opinions, but from the observation. Lihad fallen from bis Hon.
who should bave the misfortone to differ with him in opinion. (Hear, would give 3,000,0001. An advance in the price of any article of agricul. hear !). The Hon. Bart. had said, at least that, for the future, he should tural produce always produced a corresponding rise in the price of other consider it unsafe to act with those who possessed this beautiful virine" | articles. He had therefore a right to calculate that the rise in the price in such a degree, that it would not accommodate itself to circumstances. , of grain which would result from a duty of 10s, on its importation, would Now he (Mr. Lambton) acknowledged that he was of this proscribed cause an advance in the price of gross and vegetable produce to the ex-, number (hear, hear!) and, however painful it inight be to be thus tent of 5,000,000l. Those items added together would make 18,500,0001. opposed to bis Hon. Friend, yet, if by reason of his declaration, he was which more than covered the burdens which pressed exclusively upon the to separate from the Hon. Baronet, be must protest that he could not landed interest. He was aware that any sudden alteration would be conscientiously support this bill. From anything that he had heard, he viewed with dread, on account of the quantity of corn which was said to did not believe that the 40s. freeholders were really that description of be collected in foreign ports ; but be was of opinion that the alarm was persons they had been represented to be. (Hear!) He believed ihem to groundless, for the price of core would find its level; foreign corn be much better than they were made out; and though by this bill they would rise somewhat in price, and ours would somewhat decline. tbemselves were not to be disfranchised, yet their children would be; He did not believe that at the present moment there were more than a and he for onego following that principle which had ever guided bis million of quarters of corn in the ports of the Continent, and that would pablic conduct, never would consent to any measure having for its not all be imported into England; for Spain and Portugal, at present, object a limitation of the elective franchise of the people. (Cheers.) almost in a state of dearth, would compete with us in the foreign market.
Mr. LITTLETON now said a few words, when the cries of " Withdraw " The system which he wished to proceed upon, then, was shortly this (it being nearly 3 o'clock) became quite predominant over every other, When the price of corn in this country was at 555. he would admit foreiga and ibe Gallery was cleared, when the numbers were-For the amend. wheat at a duty of 10s.; and go on as the price fell 5s. in the quarter, ment, 185_For the second reading, 233_Majority, 48.
adding 5s more to the duty; so that when coro was 558., the duty would. Wednesday, April 27.
be 10s. a quarter; when it was 50s. it would be 158.; at 458., 20.; and At foor o'clock the Speaker counted the Members, wben there appear. at 40s. it would go as high as 25s. A plan like this might be adopted, he ing to be only twenty present, an adjournment took place.
was convinced, without any of the ill consequences which were appre. Thursday, April 28.
hended ; if gentlemen doubled that, let them look very briefly at the pro. A number of petitions for and against the Corn Laws and Catholic
bable rate at which (duty a part) foreign corn would be able to be sold Claims, were presented and laid on the table.
here. At Rotterdam, the average price of foreign corn sold for the ten The second reading of the Severn Railway bill was opposed, and, on a
years ending in 1825, bad been 47s 9 d a quarter. In New York, the division, was thrown out, there being 39 for and 140 against it.
average for the last five years was 38s. a quarter ; add to this, 125. or 14s. CORONATION OATH.
a quarter for freight and insurance, and New York wheat could not bo. Mr. GRENFELL sincerely hoped, from what had recently passed in
| sold in England (duty free) under 50s. Then, taking the average rate at another place, that the present Session would not be suffered to expire,
which foreign wheat could come to England to be from 458. to 52s. the. until some person in that or in the other House, of character and talent
quarter, 10s. a quarter duty upon that was as high a tax as he could feel sufficient to justify bin in bringing forward a measure of very great
justified in imposing; nor did he believe that there was any foundation importance-would bring onder the consideration of Parliament ihe pro.
for the fears of the agriculturisis, that under such circumstances very priety of considering, and of altering, if necessary, that which was
enormous importations would be inade. No better time could be taken
than the present, for the settlement of this important matter; and to de. called the Coronation Oath. (Hear!)-[Not a word from the wellpaid side.]
Jay it till a time of scarcity and agitation would be productive of the most
fatal consequences. He therefore moved, “That the House should resolve CORN LAWS. Mr. WHITMORE called the attention of the House to the important sub
itself into a Committee to consider of the present state of the Corn Laws." ject of the Corn Laws, in which, he said, the true interests of the country
Mr. Gooch thought that no case bad been made out to warrant the required an alteration, particularly after the recognition by Ministers of
House in disturbing a system, which gave equal satisfaction both to the those free principles of irade which had been elicited by these enlightened
grower and the consumer! The average price of corn in England, for the times. These laws were a grievous burthen on the manufacturing classes ; lice
last six years, had been 58s.3d.; and it was impossible for the agriculty.. and though at first it mighi appear that the agriculturists were called upon
rist, burdened as he was, to farm his land at a lower price. Paying such to make a sacrifice, this alteration would really be beneficial to them in
heavy exclusive taxes, the bome farmer could never compete with the the end The present system produced the most alarming evilsat one
foreign grower; and, as he objected to agitating the country upon a point time, all the mischiefs of a dearth ; and at others, those caused by a pro.
as to which it was perfectly quiet, he should move the previous question. fuse supply. The supply of grain on ihe Continent had of late been 1. Mi
| Mr. CURWEN said a few words, which were quite inaudible in the Gal. greatly reduced, owing to the diminished demand of this country, and
| lery. in case of a dearth, we should find it very difficult to obtain a supply.
Lord OXMANTOWN opposed the motion. To aroid so faial an evil, the trade in corn should be open to the whole Mr. Huskisson admitted that the question was one of great importance, world, and he ventured to assert, that woless the system was soon chang. and he only differed in degree with the Hon. Mover of it; but the present ed, we sbould shortly reap the bitter fruits of it, as a day would arise was not the fir time to enter on an alteration of the Corn Laws. He would which it required stronger nerves than bis to contemplate. ( Hear, hear!) | assert that, with the facts before him, of corn being sold in the ports of Our laws had already greatly injured the continental corn-growers, and France and the Netherlands at half the price at wbich it could be purthe effects of their depression were, that the consumption in Poland, &c. I chased here, no man would be warranted in contending that the present of British Colonial produce and manufactures was only half now what it Corn Laws could be adopted as a permanent system. (Hear, hear') had been. Most persons in Poland, who formerly grew corn, now grow But, owing to our system, there was a great increase in the stock of corn wool; the natural consequence of which would be, the depression of the lin all the continental poris from which we had usually imported; and this English manufactures. If the present system was continued, the capital, was farther increased by the fact, that Spain and Portugal, imitating our on wbich the power of England depended, would be driven to some example, had latterly received less than their usual supply from the other parts of the world; the result of which would be, that in compari. northern ports. The result was, that the supply was at present so much son with the populous nations of the Continent, we should become a | beyond the demand in many of the European ports, ibat in some corn did second rate power, for our present strength depended upon our capital. not produce half, in others not one third, and in others again not oneThe consequence of the Corn Laws was to raise the price of provisions fourth of the average prices of the last 40 years, before they had ceased in this country for the benefit of one class, and that the most powerful in to export corn to this country. (Hear, hear!) The effects of such an the State, at the expense of the great mass of the people. Was this a accumulation gave rise to difficulties in bringing about any effectual alte. safe course to pursue? Was it imagined that the people of England were ration in the Corn Laws. If we now opened our ports to an unrestricted pot aware of the object for which the existing laws were imposed? The trade, we might introduce all at once the great accumulation in the foreiga PEOPLE KNEW THAT THE OBJECT WAS TO RAISE RENTS(Hear!)-it was ports, and thus disgust the home grower with a free trade. That there impossible to conceal that fact. Was not such a proceeding totally were inconveniences attending the system in whichever way we treated opposed to the principle which ought to regulate the proceedings between it, he did not deny, but they were the necessary result of the system which mag and man? It was impossible that the people of this country, who we had adopted, and which could not atlord a permanent advantage to were daily becoming more and more enlightened, would submit patiently any party. The question then was, with this accumulation in the foreign to laws which were passed, almost avowedly, for the aggrandizement of market, what course ought we to pursue? One mode suggested was, to a pririleged class! The alterations which he would propose would wave prohibit importation as long as corn did not exceed 60s. here ; and anofor their object to place the trade on the same footing as that on which it ther was to bave the ports constantly open, with such a duty as would stood previously to 1815-viz. to leave the importation of corn virtually, afford a protection to the English farmer. If, however, the reduction were, if not nominally, free, subject to the payment of such an amount made 10 60s. the whole of the accumulation of the ports of thre Continent of duty as should cover the peculiar burdens which pressed on the would be thrown upon the country. What the effect of that would be, be lagded interest. Those burdens he estimated at eighteen millions, and would not attempt to describe, though he did not partake of the general he would state the amount of duties which would cover them. The con- fears entertained on the subject. (Ilear, hear') If a permanent duty was sumption of corn was estimated at about 14,000,000 quarters. He pro- to be fixed, how were they to deal with the accumulations on the Conti. posrd a duty of 10s, per quarter on the imposlation of corn, which would nent? Were they to be admilted at once, or gradually ? These considerainerease the price to that anjoont which on 14,000,000 quarters would tions showed the difficulties with which the question was surrounded at give 7,000,000l. On barley, he would 6x a duty of 5s. which, as the present, which could not be expected to embarrass it at another period. coustinprion was 14,000,000 qrorters, would give 3,500,0001. Vu oais, it was not for him to assert that the whole of the difficulty would be re.