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Mr. RUTT seconded the Resolution, which was carried unavimously, I Lord REDESDALE considered that to talk of a free trade in corn was not with great applause. It was then resolved that the above Resolution merely absurd, but dangerous. The landed interests of England were should be communicated to the Secretaries of the Catholic Associations connected with the very essence of the British Constitution, and could of England and Ireland.-The Association theo broke up.
not be separated from it ! (Hear.) Landed property had been assessed beyond any other kind of property.
The House divided-Contents, 34. Non-contents, 39, Majority against UNITED PARLIAMENT.
the amendment, 5.-The further consideration of the bill was postponed
to Monday. HOUSE OF LORDS.
Friday, June 3.
The second reading of the Bill to allow the Unitarians jo celebrate
marriages in their own chapels, according to their own forms, was moved The Earl of KINGSTON presented a petition from Kilkenny, in Limerick, by the
ck; by the Marquis of LANSDown, who stated that some ministers of the complaining of the want of a Protestant Church. The parish was one of Established Church, feeling that the Church itself was injured by coma uoion of parishes, and was far from the union Church. It was rich
pelling persons to enter the Temple of God with equivocation on their enough to pay a clergyman, and parisbioners had applied to the diocesan
tongues, had given their assistance towards framing this measure, which to be separated from the union, and to have a Church built ; but the
had passed through all its stages in the Commons without a single Bishop had no power to separate such union, which was done by an act division. of Council, He hoped the noble Earl opposite would cause some alteration
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY voted for the Bill, as equally in the law.
calculated to relieve the dissenters and the ministers of the Church of Lord CLIPDEN said, that the union of several parishes was often at
| England. tended with great inconvenience, and he thought every parish that could
| The Bishop of Bath and WELLS denied that the church marriage raise 2001. a year, should be separated, and have a Church of its own.
ceremony was a grievance to the Unitarians. He admitted that they The Irish Church was a Church without a flock. In Kilkenny there were were obliged to make a declaration “ in the name of the Father, and of instances of ten parishes being united ; and the distance from one end of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" but these very words were used in the union to the other was twenty miles.--[The Earl of KINGSTON ex- | their own printed ceremony of baptism " I baptize thee in the name of claimed, Thirty.)-Well, thirty, as his Noble Friend said, and laughed at the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.” He also admitted that the clergyit as a joke; but it was no joke for the deserted flocks. But though the
man gave to the parties benediction, by praying to God the Father, God people often wanted a church, they had always that hell upon earth, a | the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, to bless them. Now, if they did not Bishop's Court ! there was nothing like it for injustice this side Constan- I think that they were the better for this, surely they could not feel themtinople.
selves worse. Lord KING said, he held in his hand some returns, which might be The Bishop of LICHFIELD and COVENTRY thought the bill calculated called the Book of the Irish Church. He found at page 13 one union to deliver the Church of England from the scandalous profanation of a described, consisting of eleven parishes, which was probably a magnum
was probably a magnum compromise at the altar. bonum, a most glorious thing for a parson ! In Clonfert there were 60
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that the Toleration Act did not repeal parishes, and they were all united into 14 benefices. In Kildare, 63
to 14 benefices: In Kildare, 63 the common law of the land ; and as it was still therefore a crime at parishes were united into 24 benefices. In Killarney there were only 14
benefices. In Killarney, there were only 14 common law to deny the divinity of Christ, their Lordships must begin benefices; and in Killaloo, 136 parishes were formed into 42 benefices.
with repealing the common law, and not with an Act of Parliament in This was the ne plus ultra of Irish episcopalian union. He had heard
the teeth of it. The Jews and the Quakers had marriage ceremonies of lately of a great readiness to have recourse to the ultima ratio, and this their own, and he should not be sorry to see a bill introduced, declaring he supposed might be called the ultima ratio episcoparum, when ten their marriages valid; for although excepted in Lord Hardwicke's Act, parishes could be united into one living, to provide for the son or nephew
into one living, to provide for the son or nephew yet, in a case lately before him, considerable doubts had been raised as of a Bishop. It was done too, he supposed, propria motu. The Bishop to the validity of Quakers' marriages. made the union by his own decree, and popped his son or nephew into The Earl of LIVERPOOL said the Learned Lord supplied an argument the benefice. He had lately read of the French Church ; he believed against himself, when he admitted the propriety of Jewish and Quaker that it was described as the most recent and the least apostolical. The marriages: for could any man assert that the doctrines of the Unitarians Irish Church, being more ancient, might be called, be supposed, very
were more at variance with Christianity than those of the Jews? The apostolical! The Noble Lord had said of Bishops' Courts, he doubted if
Unitarians denied the divinity of Christ, but the Jews denied Christiany such things could be found this side of Constantinople. He (Lord
| anity altogether-they blasphemed and crucified him whom we adored. King) believed nothing like them could be found even there. There
| And how did the law'stand at present? In some cases marriage, accordmight be some resemblance to them probably in Greece ; and he would
ing to the rites of the church of England, was not necessary even amongst suppose the rector of Skibbereen discussing with a Turk the mysteries of
its own members : they might go to France and be married by a Roman their trade of exaction. “ Do you take tythes froin the Greeks ? We Catholic, or to Scotland and be married by a Presbyterian. He supdo not allow the Catholics to go tythe free. Do you goad the Greeks ?
ported the Bill. · We do not spare the Catholics. When they are restive, you carry them
The Bishop of CHESTER had no objection to give the Unitarians the before the Cadi? We take the Catholics before an Orange-parson-magis- I same privileges as the Jews and Quakers; but the Unitarians were not trate. Have you got adroit dervises? We have Tipperary tithers more at present prepared to give securities against clandestine marriages ; and adroit than they. As for your wealth, why a diocese in Ireland, the he therefore wished the measure delayed till next year. primacy, is a beiter preferment than the papacy; I would rather be an
On a division, the numbers were-Content, 32; Proxies, 20—52: Irish Bishop than the Pope, · In Ireland we have tithe proctors; and, to
Not content, 31 ; Proxies, 25–56.—Majority against the Bill, 4. crown all, we have Bishops' Courts, with all their chicanery, which are far better instruments for extracting wealth than all the Courts in Turkey."
HOUSE OF COMMONS. And this was the Church, the Noble Lord said, which must not be
Monday, May 30. touched, and to support which their Lordships had lately thrown out the
The Edinburgh and Dalkeith Rail-road Bill was thrown out by a bill for the relief of the Catholics! The bill must pass one day or other;
majority of 63 to 23. and he would rather it should pass under the auspices of the Defender of
R. P. T. Pilkington (the forger of the Ballinasloe petition) was called the Faith," than under those of the Most Christian King."-(Not a word
to ibe bar, reprimanded by the Speaker, and ordered to be discharged on from the well-paid side.]
paying the fees.-[The poor devil not having any money, he was allowed CANADA AND BONDED CORN BILL.
| to get out of the custody of the Serjeant at Arms without paying them, The Earl of LIVERPOOL having moved the order of the day for a Com-though the careful Mr. Croker objected to this lenity.] mittee on the Canada Corn bill,
The Jury Bill was read a third time and passed. Lord MALMSBURY objected to the importation of Canadian corn. He GRANTS TO THE DUCHESS OF KENT AND DUKE OF CUMBERLAND. wisbed the bill to be divided, in order that this objectionable portion of it The Grant of 6,0001. a year to the Duchess of Kent having been voted, might be excepted. If the importation of Canadian corn was allowed, for the education of her daughter that to the Duke of Cumberland, for the United Siates would contrive to smuggle to a great extent, and
the education of bis son, was opposed by Mr. HUME, who thought the Canada, in her anxiety to export as much as possible, would often run the
measure was most ill-advised, and tbat it would be a shameful waste of risk of exhausting herself, and becoming dependent for supply upon
the public money. Such a demand, for the education of a boy of two America. He moved, “ that the Committee be instructed to leave out of
years of age, was never before beard of, and ought to be resisted, at a ".. the bill all that related to an alteration in the duty on wheat the produce
time wben Ministers pleaded inability to lower the public burthens:-* of the British colonies in North America."
What had the Duke of Cumberland ever done to obtain the good-will of Earl BATHURST observed, that the importation from Canada was re
Parliament? (Hear, hear!) He certainly ought to educate and support stricted to corn in grain, and not in flour; and the latter being the usual his family without further and from the nation. way in which the American States exported, and the very bulk of the The CHANCELLOR of the EXCREQUER said, if it bad been the pleasure of orain being sufficient to expose it to the risk of seizure, it would be diffi- that House, on a former occasion, to increase the allowance of the Duke cult, if oot impossible, to carry on such a trade from the United States
of Cumberland in the same way as it had the allowances of all the other without detection.
branches of the Royal Family, it would have been needless on bis Royal Lord LIVERPOOL said they were bound to consider where Canada was Highness's part to have asked for an addition, because, undoubtedly, the placed, and what prospects were opening in other parts of America, and allowances which were made to the Dukes of Clarence and Cambridge of they would then see that the more liberal the system they adopted, the 6,0001. a gear additional, on the occasion of their marriages, were conmore conformable would it be to the growing spirit of the times.
| sidered quite sufficient to meet the probable expenses. It would be recol,
Sected, however, that the Duke of Camberland did not obtain the same soon as the scions of the Royal stock attained their 5th or 6th years, the increased allowance when bis marriage took place; and therefore his was House should be expected to vote 6,0001. per annam for tbeir education. quite a different case. His Royal Higbness baving since had a son born He decidedly opposed the grant, as altogether unnecessary, and as an to him, not now two years old, but six, there was surely nothing injurious abuse of that power which the people so largely intrusted to the House, to bis character in the proposition now made for an allowance to him on He would oppose it also because its tendency was to lower that true account of the education of that young individual. He would be quite dignity of the Royal Family, which consisted in the respect felt for them willing to insert any words which would give a positive pledge to the by the people. House, that this young person should not be educated abroad, but in Mr. CANNING said, the House, he believed, would agree that this child England. This was the real object of the bill. (Hear!)
must be educated, not because it was the Duke of Cumberland's child, bat Dr. LushinGTON contended that the precedent of such a grant was a because the duty of educating it devolved upon the State, of wbicb it migbt very dangerous one, and might lead to consequences mischievous in the one day be so important a member. What was now proposed, therefore, extreme. For his own part, moreover, he did not see that the Duke of was, that by a resolution the most coercive, it should be provided that Cumberland had not already allowance enough to discharge all these this education should be carried on at home, and that the Royal parent luties of education and maintenance, if he was really disposed to discharge should either return to England himself, or send hither his child, which bem. (Hear!) But suppose the Duke should come back to this country,
might be accomplished by not annexing the parent's return. Thus would how came it that the Duchess of Kent, with ber 12,0002. a year (that she be avoided that rude and barsh interference, wbicb it would on all accounts would now have) would be able to provide for ber young daughter, who
be inexpedient to attempt. was so pear in succession to the throne, to maintain ber rank and state on
Sir F. BURDETT could not see by what possible device ap infant of six their present footing, and to provide all the education suitable for that years old was to be made capable of expending 6,0001. a year. For him. daughter, while the Duke of Cumberland was incapable of managing the self, be denied that the cbild stood in any such near relation to the throne same duties with 18,0001. a year? (Hear, hear!) Surely there was a as to make any provision necessary, and thought that he might fairly be gross inconsistency at the outset. After some further remarks, Dr. L. / left to the chance of that education which ihe Duke bis father would moved an amnendment for leaving out the words, “ Duke of Cumberland,” bestow upon him. And, if he was to come to this conatry, what occasion and putting in, “ the United Empire."
-except to do mischief, and attract a crowd of ill-meaning people about Mr. CREBVEY declared that be could not submit to pass the original
him was there for such a stipend as 6,0001. a.year? How could he be motion, or the amendment. He bad never witnessed so gross an outrage
better educated than as young men of rauk and fortune generally were ? as that which was now put upon the good sense and cousistency of the
He (Sir F. Burdett) protested tbat he thought the 6,0001. a year would House, by this attempt to gei 6,0001. a year out of the House of Common's
be less mischievously employed in giving it even to the Duke of Cumber. for the Duke of Cumberland. (Hear, hear') For that was the fact--the
land, tban in bestowiog it on what was called the education of his son. money was wanted for the Duke of Cumberland. (Hear!) This was
The best course would be to negative the vote altogether. neither more nor less than an attempt to raise 6,0001. a year under false
| Mr. BROUGHAM, amid loud cries of “ Question," suggested whether it pretences. (A laugh.) Six thousand pounds a year for the education of would not be better for his learned friend (Dr. Lushington) to withdraw a child five years old! It was nonsense to talk of it. Was ever so absurd bis amendment, and let the question be put at once to negative the grant, a thing heard of? In truth, this was the old motion in a new form; but Dr. LUSHINGTON understood it to be conceded that some satisfactors that was the most insulting and contemptuous in which it could have been provision was to be made as to the education in England; but he objected produced. It was very true, that 6,0001. a year had been voted to the to the course of the money being voted to the King, specifically “to pay Duebess of Kent, but the application, he was very sure, never cape from over to the Duke of Cumberland." That distinct arrangeinent would her, nor from those around her. (Hear, hear!) She and the Princess, deprive Parliament of the control which it ought to have over the money, so far from being voluntary applicants, had been made the mere tools to if voted. justify the application on behalf of the Duke of Cumberland, and carry The House then divided; when the numbers were-For the grant, 1.20 that with their own. (Hear!) If the House agreed to the resolution, Against it, 97—Majority, 23. they would disgrace themselves for ever. (Hear, hear !)
Mr. Brougham gave notice, that, on constitutional grounds as well as Mr. Cripps expressed himself to be friendly to the principle of the because he perceived a disposition to take advantage of a temporary coolamendment, and declared his intention of voting for it.
ness on the part of the people respecting questions of economy, and a Mr. H. GURNEY said the Duke of Cumberland had, in his opinion, tendency to spend the people's money as if they were never more to be in been very unjustly treated upon a former occasion, and he hoped the want of it, he should therefore continue to give the measure his strenuous House would now redeem itself from the imputation which its former opposition. (Loud cheers.) injustice bad cast upon it.
EAST INDIA JUDGES BILL. Sir G. Rose said, the Duke of Cumberland bad been driven out of Mr. WYNN proposed an amendment upon the bill, increasing the England by ill-treatment. He had known his Royal Highness for years. salaries and retiring allowances of the ludian Judges. The resolutions .Upon the first commencement of his intimacy, some of his friends remon- | were agreed to. strated with him upon the danger he run from the bad repute in which bis
• Tuesday, May 31. Royal Highness was held. He (Sir G. Rose) replied, that he saw bis
LICENSING SYSTEM. Royal Highness surrounded by men of the most distinguished probily, of Sir F. BURDETT presented a petition from a publican at Chichester, the most scrupulous delicacy of conduct, and as he had never known such complaining that he had been deprived of his license. He understood it men attach themselves to bad men, he would not believe the disadvan
was a very hard case, and that the man possessed a most excellent chatageous reports he had heard. The subsequent experience he bad bad, racter. This was really a grievance which demanded redress. convinced him that the opinion be had formed was correct. He had Mr. Poyntz said, he was the more surprised at the refusal, because this never known any man behave in a manner more becoming his station, and man bore an excellent character. with kiudoess and consideration to all who were about bim.
Mr. Hums said, that many such acts of oppression were practised all Sir W. CONGREVE said a few words which were nearly inaudible. The througb the country. There were in Chichester 34 public-bouses belongHon. Member was understood to say, that the Duke of Cumberland was ing to one frin of brewers, Messrs. Humphries, and there were only three remarkably punctual in the payment of his debts.
free houses ; and it appeared that every one of the 34 bad given a bond to Mr. C. Smith complained of the cruel insinuations which had been
Messrs. Humphries to use no beer but theirs. made against his Royal Highness.
| Mr. HUSKISSON said, that this was not a case of commercial regulations, Mr. Pebl observed, that the Hon. Member for Montrose (Mr. Hume) | but one that concerned the police of the country. bad said, that every man was bound to educate his own children. As
DELAYS AND EXPENCES IN CHANCERY. applied to private life, this was quite true; but in the case before the Mr. John WILLIAMS, alluding to the Commissioners appointed to House, the interest it had in this child made its education a matter of inquire into the delays, &c. of the Court of Chancery, observed, ihat when national importance. It was insinuated that as the Duchess of Kent found
serious reformers set about the correction of an evil, they were not in the ber allowance of 12,0001. per annum sufficient, that of the Duke of Cuin- babit of selecting the authors and abettors of the abuses existing, to be the berland, amounting to 18,000l. was more than enough. But it would be instruments of reformation. The very proposition of such a Commission, seen that the situation of the Duchess, being a widow, and leading a so constituted, and for such a purpose, required the greatest gravity of retired life, was very different from that of a Prince, who had a family, countenance. Indeed, he did not believe that the gravest Chaplains in and a station to keep up. (Hear') It was asked why the Duke of our Church could take up that list of Commissioners, and peruse it, without Cumberland did not come home; but when the manner in which his name a most convulsive feeling of laughter,- (Hear, hear!) There remained had been introduced in 1818, and the allusions which had been then made in the Court of Chancery now, for hearing and appeals, four hundred (which he believed were now regretted) to the person who stood in the causes. Excluding those causes which waited for judgment, and petitions, relation of bis Royal Highness's wife, were recollected, it would not be altogether there were twelve hundred of what was called, “ matters aod wondered at that he should choose to reside abroad. It was proper that things to be disposed of,” at that moment waitiog for decision! Taking bis Royal Highness's son should be educated in England, and he thougbt the average at which causes were disposed of since 1813, it would actually the House ought to require some more valid security than the word of a take Forty-eight years to obtain a hearing for the causes as they now stood Minister for that purpose. To effect this, the best means would be by on the paper! Did any man expect that the public would be satisfied some proviso to be inserted in the bill bereafter.
with a mere revision of the forms of proceeding-the regulation of the Mr. BROUGHAM, in reply to an observation that had been made, that a process for the serving of a subpæna ? Such a regulation would produce father had a right to direct the education of his child in the way be thought ibis much advantage if the average duration of a cause was thirty years, best, said, that this was only true wben that father paid for the education and the average expense 10,000l. the corrective of the Commissioners of the child. It appeared to him dangerous and novel to admit that as would reduce the duration to twenty-nine years and pipe months, and the
expence to 9,0191. . That was the quantom of relief to be expected from Chapter to prove themselves entitled to interfere in this
1 10 0 the whole property of this country had been staggering for years past- « 4. Attending Court all day, three petitions in the paper, but for how bad it been created, and bow conducted ? By the consciences of some not called on .....
1 10 0 Priests and Lawyers; and who would deny the fact, that such was a very “5. The like attendance in this Court this day, three petitions sandy foundation? He knew not what report the Commissioners would in the paper .................. make, if they ever made any; but he would tell them, that any report “g. The like attendance this day......
1 10 0 which limited its power of inquiry to the mere fringe, skirts, and riod of “ 10. The like attendance this day....
'110 the question, would oply have the effect of producing, through the influ. | “11. The like attendance this day .........
1 10 0 ence of public opinion, an essential and permanent reform in the process of “ 23. Attending Court, when the Lord Chancellor directed the that overwhelming jurisdiction. The moment the parties were brought Registrar to put the petitions in the paper for Tuesday next into that most odious dungeon, the Court of Chancery, there they were « March 1. Aitending Court on three petitions, some in the imprisoned, at least detained, till all property was lost-life, he was about paper, and called on, wben the various points suggested by to say; for too frequently the very starvation to which the parties were the Court were again argued at some length, and his Lordreduced, too often produced that calamitous result. (Hear, hear!) Mr. Ship promised to give his judgment this day week...... 20O W. alluded to the transfer of real property. As the proceedings now « 8. Attending Court; but the Lord Chancellor did not give stood, the state of them was an absolute disgrace-a perfect sarcasm on judgment, according to promise .........,
6 8 the security of property and the administration of justice. Though you That no judgment has been given by bis Lordship on these petitions. purchase an estate at an expense of 100,0001. you know not whether it be worth that som in the contemplation of the law, or worth one farthing.
That the parish officers have incurred costs in consequence to the amount That depended upon the opinion of a chosen few, not more than
of 6311. 98., which is exclusive of the costs of the trustees. That at the six, who were connected with the jurisdiction of the Court of Chan.
| time the first petition was presented, there were forty persons receiving a cery, and were arbiters of the landed property of the realm.
relief of 101. a year from this charity. That nine of the forty persons
It was confided to those few elect to decide whether a transfer of property
have died since the first petition was presented, and those who survive was worth a bundred thousand pounds or a farthing. It was such a sys.
are the only persons now benefitted by the charity, as no new objects tem'as this, affecting the most essential interests of the country, that
have been appointed since that petition was presented, nor can any be apthose who profited by it expected-painly, he trusted-would be tolerated
pointed until his Lordship gives judgment. That the surplus rents of this in ap enlightened and inquisitive community. They had heard of the
charity estate, after paying the several existing objects, have accumulated, power of a court of equity to stay proceedings. But in addition to other
during the time the petitions have been pending to the sum of 1,2731. 178.9d. branches, that court embraced a decision, or what was called a decision,
part of which, viz. 7007. have been invested by the trustees in Exchequer on specific bills and injunctions. These might be considered in the light
bills, and the whole sum of 1,2731. 178. 9d. now remains unappropriated, of additional fungi attached to that very dangerous excrescence which
although there is a great number of fit objects who ought to receive the bad grown in modern times upon the cuticle of jurisprudence. There
relief, and many of them, in consequence of the delay, have been obliged would remain another matter of inquiry; be meant the exclusion altogether
to apply for parochial relief, aod are, in consequence, rendered legally inof causes of bankruptcy from the Court of Chancery. Never was there a
capable of receiving the benefits of the charity.”—The next petition was court worse calculated for the purpose. It remained for him now to stale
that of Williain Honywood Yate, a gentleman who, though now in emthe pature of the petitions which he should bare the honour to present.
barrassed circumstances, claimed several valuable estates in Hereford, The first was from Mr. Samuel Palmer, one of the Church - wardens of
Gloucester, and Worcester, but from any legal prosecution of such claims Newington ; a man of most unquestionable honour. The circumstances
he was impeded by the inability to meet the expense. The next case was detailed in the petition were as follow :-In 1568 a grant was made by
tbat of Mr. Gammow, an individual who was entitled to an annuity of 3001. the Lord of the Manor of Walworth of a piece of land, with its rents and
under the will of the late Duke of Queensberry. The estate of profits, to the overseers of Newington. In August, 1820, the trustees
that noble Duke was thrown into Chancery in 1800, and the petitioner filed a petition, in consequence of the great increase of the value of the
alleged that for seven years from that period he never received a single property, praying that an account might be taken and directions given as
shilling of the annuity, although there were ample funds in the court to to its further disposal. This cause came before the Vice-Chancellor in
pay all that were entitled. The next petition was from Mr. Gourlay, who 1820, who referred it to the Master. It was heard by the Master, and in
attributed all his misfortunes to bis having been unfortunately a suitor in two years and four months the report was made, by wbich the jurisdiction
the Court of Chancery. The next case was comprehended in the petition was taken from the overseers and given to the trustees. Petitions were
of Mr. Joseph Estcourt, at present a prisoner in the Fleet,' who declared then filed before the Lord Chancellor on both sides, in 1823, and the
bimself to be 71 years of age and upwards. He stated himself to have matter was frequently brought before the Court, but was not decided up to
been imprisoned for a contempt, in not having answered certain interrothis moment.
gatories. He had been now a prisoner upwards of two years and five The petition proceeded." That by the bills of costs up to Easter, it appears, ihat in December, 1824, being nine months after the
months. He declared bimself to be wholly ignorant of the nature and said petitioners were heard, application was made to bis lordship on behalf
effect of those interrogatories, or of the refusal to abide by the order of the of the trustees, to pronounce his judgment, when his Lordship appointed
Court. He had trusted to the knowledge of a man of the name of Brown,
who was a co-defendant. That confidence was misplaced, and petitioner the 4th of December for that purpose, on which day bis Lordsbip mentioned the petitions, and appointed ihe 6th of December to give his judg.
was brought up by a special messenger, at an expense of 501. to the Fleet. ment. That in the bill of costs your petitioner observes the following
From that copiempt he could not be relieved until he paid the expenses, items, viz.
to defray which he was wholly unable. Thus dragged away from bis
family and connections, he declared that he would have perished for want, “ December 6, 1824. Attending Court, when the Lord Chan- £. s. d.
but for the humane interposition of the Warden of the Fleet, whose name cellor wept partially into the matter, and requested to be
he (Mr. Williams) regretted he did not recollect, as such an instance of furnished with the repealed Local Act, which he said he
bumanity ought not to be overlooked. (Many Members called out “ Mr. would read, and give bis judgment to-morrow .......... 2 0 0
Brown.”) In cases of this kind, proceeding out of the Court of Chancery, “7. Attending Court all day, when bis Lordship said he had
there was no inquiry whether the alleged contempt proceeded from ignoto leave early, but would not fail giving bis judgnient to
rance or obstinacy. The remaining case was that of the Tunbridge chamorrow morning.......................
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rity. It was a cause brought by the Attorney-General against the Skinners' “ 8. Attending Court all day, when the Lord Chancellor
Company. Seven thousand pounds a year was the amount of the estate, | adverted to the question of jurisdiction, which he desired to
which was to be applied to the purposes of education. All parties bad be again spoken to, and requested that the Dean and Chap
been agreed upon applying a certain portion of these rents to found exbiter of Canterbury should attend him, and appointed Satur.
bitions in the Universities for individuals educated in the school ; what then day next for that purpose ............................ 2 0 0 was the result of this delay? That a whole generation had been defrauded “11. Attending Court all day, wben Mr. Sbadwell applied, on
of the benefits arising from that charity, and another generation was startibe part of the Dean and Chapter of Canterbury, to let the
ing into life probably with the same prospect. (Hear, hear !) If by any petition stand over, and the same was ordered till the 1st
chance 7,0001. got into the Court or Chancery, its fangs were fastened seal before Hilary Term, to give the Dean and Chapter an
upon it. If it was money, the individuals of that Court fattened upon it. opportunity of considering what course they should take.... 2 0 0 1 it was life, they fed upon it. When Hudibras tried, by all means direct " January 11, 1825. Attending Court, when Mr. Shadwell
or indirect-by correspondence, affectionate and menacing-by amatory stated he was not prepared to go on, and the Lord Chan
proceedings of every character, to win the heart of an yclept widow : bis cellor ordered the same to stand for this day fortnight, pe
Squire, seeing that all other devices failed, recommended the expedient of remptory ................
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a suit in Chancery to conquer all her objections, and bring her wholly to “ 25 Attending Court all day, tbree petitions in the paper,
his will. But the widow, woman like, was determined to meet the “ general but some not called on ..............................
1 10 0 camp, pioneers and all,”-rather than be plunged in the pollution of a « 26. Tbe like atlendance this day .........
1 10 0 Chancery suit. (Hear, hear, hear !) To ihe House of Commons alone " 27. The like attendance this day ......................
10 0 the country looked for an effective change in such a system. Was this « 28. The like attendance this day ......................
1 10 state of things worthy of the state of information in the country? He “ 29. Altending Court, three petitions in the paper, some called
took leave to answer that it was not that it was a disgrace to England to on and ordered to stand for Tuesday next, for the Dean and
be behind every neighbouring country in the expedition, the jatelligent and cheap administration of law. (Hear!) Ministers ought to be ashamed | a Member of such a Commission because he was a lawyer. He was satis. of longer allowing the subject to remain in its present state. (Hear!) fied with the importance of attending to the reform of our criminal law; The King of Bavaria had very recently introduced into his realm a very he was convinced that great reforms might be made, and he was only general penal code, In a neighbouring country, also, not long since, anxious that the most effectual mode might be adopted, reigned a man of singular qualities, and still more singular fortunes, who, Mr. Home thought it would be in vain to expect any reform in the Court though like Cæsar, nimium assueverat militaribus ingeniis, yet found time, of Chaocery while its sinecures remained. while engaged in the conquest of the world, to frame a system and a code Mr. BROUGHAM regretted that the Commission had not made any report, of laws, which would remaju an ever-living monument of his glory, and but be should wrong himself if he stated that he expected any good from would be remembered when his victories were forgotten. (Hear, hear!) that Commission. The question is, wbether the abuse lies in the conduct The experiment had been tried, and had succeeded in France, and the of John Lord Eldon, or in the system; and who pray is to decide? Why, late and great Ruler of that country bad left his code as the best legacy to John Lord Eldon ! (A laugh). And, most truly, no man knows better posterity. Whatever might be asserted by lawyers, puffing the craft by than he where the fault lies, if he wish to speak; but when he and the which they lived, he would assert that the great body of the people of Commission, of wbich he is the head, remain silent an entire year, to say England, the growing information, the march of intellect, the glorious that I entertain any hopes from their proceedings, would be to treat the progress of art and science among them, demanded that some effectual House of Commons with a degree of levity at yariance with the gravity remedy should be applied to the evil.
they deserve. (Cheers.) In the olden time, there was a certain Bishop Mr. J SMITH said, that in commercial dealings it was well known to of Rome, who adjudged that he should be burnt. He was inwardly be a common threat on the part of a debtor, that he would file a bill, and moved, it is said, with the enormity of his crimes, bis mauifold offences, his it not un frequently happened that an honest claim was defeated by the delays of justice-(A laugh )-the claims of his fellow men, which be had apprehension thus excited. A case illustratiog this point bad occurred to suppressed, the tortures he had inflicted; and in the anguish of his mind, himself. He had lent an individual 4,5001. upon the bond of A.B. a re. | he exclaimed, « Indico me cremari.” The sentence was execated; for spectable and wealthy person, and that bopd became payable in eighteen bistory informs us that « Indicatus fuit, crematus fuit, et sanctus fuit." months. When application was made for the money, the reply was, that (Much laughter). Now, I much doubt (said Mr. B.) whether the Noble the grantor of the bond would not pay more than 4,0001 because only in and Learned Lord would not bare certain conscientious scruples against fole such a sum was be indebted to the grantee. He (Mr. Smith) consulted his lowing the example of a Pope of Rome. (A laugh). Nothing, 1 persuade solicitor, who told him that the state of the accounts was nothing to bim, myself, but the hope of a subsequent sanctification could prevail upon him and that he was entitled to the whole 4,5001. Accordingly, he had again to adopt the precedent; and even with this flattering prospect before his applied to A. B. for payment of the bond, and being refused, he had eyes, his interest in the estate for life being superior to his love of country threatened an action. The reply was, that if he (Mr. Smith) commenced and the purification of his own soul, might not induce him to sacrifice the an action, the grantor of the bond would throw the whole into Chancery. reversion. (Much cheering and laughter.) This threat had occasioned so much alarm, that he (Mr. Smith) bad again Mr. John Williams observed, that he had still stronger cases to proresorted to his legal ad viser, who recommended him to relinquish his just duce than he had yet brought forward. The petitions were then laid on claim rather than run the risk of a Chancery suit, as the solicitor's bill the table, and ordered to be printed. would, in all probability, amount to more than the 5001. in dispute. (Hear')
HOURS OF LABOUR, He put it to the House, whether it was not notoriously true, 'that no man On the motion of Mr. HobuOUSE, the House went into a Comunittee on could enter the Court of Chancery who was not prepared to expend a large the Cotton Mills Regulation Bill. sum of money; so that, in fact, it was only open to the opulent. He fully 1 Mr. HOBHOUSE then said, that at the suggestion of others he had been concurred in what the Honourable Gentleman bad said regarding the induced to alter a little bis original purpose. It was bis intention to reduce Code Napoleon, which would long be remembered, or rather would never the hours in the day wbich children were compelled to work in cotton. be forgotten. The law might not be as purely administered in France, mills; and when he found that no person in any robust employment, nor but justice was obtained ten times or perhaps twenty times as cheaply and even those persons who, having incurred the penalties of the law, were expeditiously.
sentenced to hard labour, were compelled to work for so many hours, it Mr. ELLICE said, that the property vested in the Court of Chancery grieved him to find that any opposition at all should be given to a proamounted to thirty-four or thiriy.five millions, nearly as much as the whole position so reasonable and so upanswerable, that children should not be floating capital of the country. In a case in which he was personally | forced to work in cotton mills for more than eleven hours out of the twentyconcerned, he was required to make an affidavit for the satisfaction of the four. (Hear!) Perhaps ibe better course would be to state at once to Court. His affidavit was deemed inadmissible, and his succeeding attempts the House what the object of the bill was. Within the last few days, be were equally abortive. The point was of little importance, but after the had taken the trouble of inquiring the number of hours tbat men worked Court had refused to admit five successive affidavits, it at last was salis at other trades, and he found the following to be the fact :--the machines fied with that wbicb was first made! 'The property in dispute was about makers work ten hours and a half per day; moulders of the machinery 1,5001. and the expenses of litigation amounted to between 3001. and 4001.
10%, house carpenters and cabinet-makers 10); bricklayers, blacksmiths, The SOLICITOR-GENERAL noticed the five petitions before the House. I millwrights, &e. none of tbem work more than ten hours and a half per The House, he said, ought to be aware, that cases as often stood over for day; and some of them, in winter, only eight and a half. (Hear!) An the accommodation of Counsel as for the convenience of Judges. Delays allusion had been made to the pepsons employed in the silk trade, but the were often the result of petitions being badly got op by Solicitors. The two were widely different, although he found that they did not work for Commission of Enquiry consisted of Gentlemen of unquestionable talents, more than eleven hours; and there was one circumstance which deserved of great application, and of undoubted integrity. It was impossible for to be remembered, which distinguished cotton-manufacturers from all bis Learned Friend to say whether the labours of the Commission were or others, namely, the high state of the temperature, and the variations of were not adequate to the object for which it had been appointed, until the beat and cold.' (Hear!) An objection had been thrown out, that in cases report was made. He did not wish to intimate any thing disrespectful to of this description it was ridiculous to legislate. It had been said, “Will his Honourable and Learned Friend, but he must say, that sufficient unto you not let the mothers regulate their clriidren?" He remembered having tbe day was the evil thereof. With respect to the four petitions, be read a similar argament against the abolition of the slave trade; bur did pledged himself to prove, to the satisfaction of the House, that four more not the House legislate ? What he should propose was, that the children unfair, deceitful, false, fabricated, fallacious, and deceptive petitions, had should work for five days in the week, twelve bours a day, and bow any never been laid on the table of the House.
man could have the face to ask for an extension, he could not understand. Dr. LUSHINGTON, as a Member of the Commission, declared that it was on the Saturday, he should propose to curtail the hours of labour still the anxious desire of all the Commissioners to fulfil their duties with as farther, by taking off three hours, in order to enable the poor children to much expedition as the nature of their own avocations and the ditficulty wasb and repair their clothes, and prepare for the repose of the Sabbath, of the undertaking admitted. He was anxious, however, that the House He was happy to state that this measure had the concurrence of Mr. should not expect from the Commission more than it could possibly effect. Holdsworth, and 32 other manufacturers. , The Commissioners bad no power to enquire whether the present system of
Mr. John SMITH expressed his regret that the hours were not eleven jurisdiction which prevailed in the Court of Chancery was right or wrong. instead of twelve; and instanced the case of one of the most respectable (Hear!) Their enquiry was confined to an examination of the practice in
and influential cotton-spioners in the country-be meant Mr. Owen ; be, the Court from the commencement of a sait until it was brought to a final
from motives of humanity, reduced the bours to ten and a half a day, and bearing, and to ascertain whether any branches of the present jurisdiction
such was the effect of bis kindness, that the children working for ten of the Court might be advantageously taken away, and attached to other
hours had done infinitely more work than before. The Hon. Gentleman Courts. It was impossible, he thought, that with common honesty, rea
concluded by alluding to the condition of the children in the flag mills, sonable diligence, and ordinary understanding, the radical defects of the
which he contended to be just as bad as those in cotton mills. resent system might not be altered and amended.
Mr. Huskisson thought that the general principle should be, to leave all Mr. M. A. TAYLOR said, the present Commission was a mere sop to trades free between the labourer and the master; but, as Parliament had muse the people; nothing but the active and determined interference of already interfered, he did not see any objection to the present measure. that House could afford a remedy for the grievance. (Hear, hear.) lo Mr. W. Smitu did not think tbat the labour of tbe children at Man his view of the matter, the Court of Chancery was the greatest evil and cbester was a bit more free than that of the slaves in the West Indies, and the greatest curse the country bad to bear.
he thought that, as to quantum of work, the children were the worst off of Mr. Secretary Peel denied that any inference could be drawn unfavour- | the two : able to full enquiry, from the nature of the Commission. He held the Mr. Peel thought that the most important point in the bill was that conscience of a lawyer in higher estimation than the Learned Gentleman, which empowered the magistrates to interfere. and he thought an honourable minded man was better qualified for being After further conversation, the bill was reported with amendments.
Thursday, June 2.
The ATTORNBY-GENERAL defended the course which had been pursued Mr. W.1. WHITBRBAD presented a petition from the proprietors and by the law-officers of the Crown with regard to these petitioners, promotes of the Oil Gas Company, complaining of the manner in which The petition was then ordered to be printed. (after an expense of 30,0001.) their bill bad been thrown out in the Com
TAXES ON THE PRESS. mittre. Mr. W. contended, ihat the conduct of private committees in Mr. BROUGHAM presented a petition from Mr. Giffard, a bookseller, o geseral was full of injustice, and that it dissatisfied the public.-After Paternoster-row, praying that the House would give greater means of some con versation, in which several Members spoke of the 'scandalous circulation to the cbeap publications on science, philosophy, and literaconduct of those Hon. Gentlemen who had defeated many projects of ture, by diminishing the duty on printing paper-by reducing the excespublic utility because their own personal interests were opposed to them, sive tax on advertisements-by lowering the exorbitant duty on news-Mr. S. W. WHITBRBAD gave notice of a motion on the subject, unless papers, and by allowing periodical publications to be conveyed by the post it was taken up by Mr. Brougham.
to all parts of the empire, on payment of a moderate som for the postage, IGNORANT MAGISTRATES.
not exceeding the amount of 25 per cent. on the value of the article transMr. BROUGHAM presented a petition from Mr. Bayes, of Cambridge, mitted. --Laid on the table, and ordered to be printed. . attorney, complaining of the ignorance of the Magistrates who presided at Mr. HUMB presented a petition from 7,950 inhabitants of Nottingham quarter sessions. The petitioner said, that the excellent manner in which and its vicinity, against a renewal of the combination laws. --Ordered to the Magistrates of Middlesex and Westminster performed their duties be printed. was a perfect contrast to the slovenly manner in which the Magistrates in
FOREIGN CORN. the different counties of England performed theirs. Instead of being Mr. WODBhouse brought forward a motion, the object of wbicb was to persons well acquainted with the law, many of them were arbitrary and obtain further information respecting the prices of foreign corn; which fox-hunting persous (a laugh-men given up to spiritual rather than to was agreed to. temporal concerns-surgeons, apothecaries, and, in short, anything but
THE BUBBLE ACT. lawyers. (A laugh.) He therefore prayed, that before their appoint- The ATTORNBY-GENERAL obtained leave to bring in a Bill to repeal ment, they should in future undergo an examination.--The petition was that part of the Bubble Act which applies to Joint-stock Companies. The laid upon the table.-Mr. BROUGHAM, in moving that it be printed, said, effect of the Learned Gentleman's proposition will be, to remove the petbat he understood that bis Hon. Friend, the Member for Westminster, nalties which stand in the way of ihose great commercial combinations denied that arbitrary and fox-bunting principles went together. Perhaps which are the main spring of all national wealth, and at the same time to his Hon. Friend would like to be heard by the House on the subject. protect the public, by making every individual member of a Joint ComSir F. BURDETT shook his head, but said nothing. The petition was pany liable to the 'full amount of his property. Instead, too, of the infinite ordered to be printed.
number of statutes now necessary (for every Company requires a separate FREE DISCUSSION.
act), one statute will serve for all; for a Charter will be granted on all Mr. BROUGHAM .presented a petition from Richard Carlile, and six bona fide applications, on the sole condition of the liability of the appliother individuals. The petitioners stated, that they had been prosecuted, cants to the general clause of the bill now in progress. and were immured in different prisons for not being Christians accordiog
JUDGES' SALARIES. to the forms of the Established Church, and for stating their reasons why The Chancellor of the ExCHEQUBR, in a Committee, proposed that the they were not so; and they prayed that the House would rescind the 5001. taken from the salaries of the Puisne Judges should be added to their various sentences which had been passed against them, and admit them retired allowances, and that these should be increased to 31001. a year. to the same toleration that was enjoyed by other Dissenters. No one who At present, he said, the retired allowance of a Puisne Judge was 26001, knew him (Mr. Brougham) would suppose that he was inclined to patro- He also proposed 3,3001. for the retired allowance of the Vice-Chancellor. nize any species of indecent ribaldry against the received doctrines of He proposed the same sum for the Master of the Rolls. The retired the country. He considered such ribaldry to be a crime in itself, and to allowance of the Chief Justice was now 3,8001. and be thought it but fair be the very worst mode wbich could be adopted to propagate any kind of and reasonable to raise it to 40001. the same which the Lord Chancellor opinions. At the same time, he thought that if the petitioners had taken now had. With regard to the fees that were now to cease being taken by a bad way to attack the religion of the country, it was incumbent upon us the Judges, they were to be carried to the Consolidated Fund. not to take a bad way to defend it; and the worst of all possible ways A conversation arose. Mr. J. WILLIAMS thought the proposed allowwould be to inflict severer punishment than their offences required. He ances on retirement were too small; and he moved an amendment, that could conceive no harm likely to accrue to religion from free discussion; the retired allowance of a Puisne Judge be 3,5001. instead of 3,1001. and that until the mode of discussion becaine so offensive as to excite a year. This motion was carried, and so was a resolution, granting a against it the feelings of almost every man in the country, prosecutions retired allowance of 3,7501. to the Master of the Rolls, Vice-Chancellor, for blasphemy were among the very worst methods of defending religion. Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, and Chief Baron. Mr. Peel concurred with Mr. Brougham that prosecutions sbould
ROYAL ANNUITIES. not be instituted on the score of religious opinions, 50 long as those | The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUBR moved the second reading of the opinions were expressed in fair and temperate language; but he contend. Duchess of Kent's Annuity Bill. ed, that as soon as they vented themselves in scurrilous attacks on esta. Mr. Leicester said, that if this bill was as respectful to ber Royal blisbed institutions, they deserved the attention of the civil authorities. Highness as it ought to be, instead of granting 6,0001. a year for the He maintained that the libels published by Carlile and his fellow.education of her daughter, it would grant 4,0001. or 5,0001. distinctly and petitioners were revolting to the feelings of every moral man in the coun. substantially to herself, and 1,0001. or 2,0001. to her daughter. try, and were therefore properly selected for prosecution.
The Bill was then read a second time. Mr. Monck ridiculed the idea of defending religion by prosecuting | The CHANCELLOR of the ExcH EQUER moved the second reading of the blasphemy.
Duke of Cumberland's Annuity Bill.
The Speaker put the question, that this bill be now read a second were inexpedient. It was agreed on all bands that religious opinions time. The Noes seemed to predominate. The House divided-For the ougbt to be tolerated so long as they were expressed in temperate lan- second reading, 59—Against it, 48-Majority, 11-The bill was then read ruage ; but it was now argued that as soon as those opinions were so a second line. expressed as to disgust every honest mind, then they ought to be visited The proceedings on the above bill were curious. A debate was fully with punishment. It appeared io him that under such circumstances they expected; and many Members paired off to go home to their dinners, &c. ought not to be noticed, because, if they were so poisonous as was repre agreeing to return by ten o'clock, thinking that they should then be in sented, they carried along with them their own antidote. (Hear!)
time for the division. About nine, the Chancellor of the Exchequer
moved the second reading. Nobody rose to oppose it ; whereupop a diviMr. W. Smith and Lord Binning severally made a few observations
sion was called for. The gallery was ordered to be cleared for a division; the one in favour, the other in condemoation of the prayer of the petition.
and the doors of the House, according to the usual custom wben a division The petition was then laid upon the table. .
is about to take place, were locked. There is a " division bell," wbich is Mr. BROUGHAM, in moving that it be printed, said, that so far was the
rung as a notification to those Members who may be in the neighbourhood; punishment inflicted on these petitioners from having put down publica.
but as the Serjeant at Arms forgot to call out « clear the gallery," which liggs of this character, that they were now sold openly in all parts of the
gives warning for the ringing, the said bell was not rang. Thus the doors town. (Hear!) He pointed out the glariog inconsistency of denying to
were locked, and excluded many Members. Six Members, bowever, got the poor the right of reading any discussion upon Christianity, and of
into the lobby, but as the door of the House was locked, they could not allowing to the rich the privilege of having in their libraries the works of
get in. They complained of this exclusion, and were, let in. The fact Gibbon, Voltaire, &c.
was communicated to the House, and some debate took place, but strangers Mr. Home wished the Right Hon. Secretary would answer him one were still excluded ; and the six Members were brought out of the House, question-was not this country the only country in Europe where indi. previously to any division, into the Speaker's Secretary's room, and kept viduals were imprisoned for religious opinions ? If our prisons con
excluded till the division was over. The House then divided :-On the tinued to be filled with individuals suffering for religious opinions, Eng. outside of the lobby, there were between twenty and thirty Members m land would succeed to the vacant post of Inquisitor-general for Europe, locked out. They had ran from the Coffee-bouse, boping to get in before
than which he could conceive nothing more derogatory to its interests and the locking of the doors, but they were too late. Had the division bell honour. (Hear.)
rong as it ought to have done, those Members would have been in the Mr. Peel declared it was quite ridiculous to talk of the prisons being House at the division. Many of these were Opposition Members; and it filled with sufferers for religious opinions, 'when there were not more than was said that a considerable majority of them would have voted against the eleren persops confined for blasphemous publications.