I always gave land upon which to build would place itself under obligations to grant to churches and school houses because it en- that sect whatever charities it may ask hereafter: hanced the value of may property adjacent. Well, sir, the proposition of Mr. Purdue, which Then comes another proposition from the I advocate is found fault with upon the ground Northwestern Christian University. And that that he wants his name attached to the Instiproposition puts this College under sectarian tution. What higher motive could impel any influences, notwithstanding the fact that it is man to give away his money in great sums denied here. Now is a great institution like than that he should have his name attached to this, endowed by the General Government to the institution appropriating it? Then it is be put under the influence of and controlled by claimed as an objection that he wants to be a them? But what do they demand? They say Trustee throughout his life. As I stated bethat it is to be under the exclusive control and fore, what greater guarantee can we have for management of the State, and afterwards they the fair and judicious appropriation of all the say that the grounds are to be under the con- funds that may go to that Institution than that trol of seven directors, three to be elected by this man, who has proved himself to be such the Legislature or appointed by the State au- a great financier, should have the managment thorities, three to be elected by the Northwest- of it, when his interest for and in the perpetuern Christian University and the seventh is to ity of his name has caused him to adopt it as be chosen by these six. Then if they get three his child? With these remarks I submit that and the State three and these six choose one II shall vote not in favor of Tippecanoe County would like to know if they don't have three but John Purdue. and one-half sevenths? And their proposition amounts to nothing--for the simple reason that they propose to give nohting-literally nothing except the use of their building for five years. And the probabilities are that under the head of charity they would claim a donation from the State upon the ground that they had assisted the State in starting this Agricultural Institution:-that they were needy and had assisted the State at a time when it needed assistance.

Now, sir, I have about done; the proposition of Marion County amounts--to sum it up: the 175,000 dollars-if these bords should be properly and legally signed,--not more than a seventy thousand dollars proposition. The proposition of the Fletcher's amounts to the fact that they expect to take out of the State of Indiana hereafter five or six hundred thousand dollars for additional land to be sold by them to the State. But what is the necessity of running this Agricultural College upon ground that is worth two thousand dollars an acre, when the best land in the country applicable to the purpose, can be had for one hundred dollars an acre?

But the proposition of Hon. John Purdue is a tangible proposition. I have not regarded the proposition of the Methodist Episcopal Institute at the Battlegroucd—I have not spoken a single word about that for the simple reason that I put that proposition upon the same ground of that of the Northwestern Christian University. Unless John Purdue and the other commissioners may consent to locate this College there, and until it is located there, it amounts to nothing, and I shall so treat it

Mr. CHURCH (interposing,) Would it not amount to something if we had no other proposition before us?

Mr. TURNER. I think the State should accept a donation from no sect, because it

Mr. HAMILTON. Mr. President: It occurs to me that this subject has been well ventilated. I thought of submitting a few remarks in regard to the matter, but I don't know that I can bring anything new to light. I remind myself of an snecdote I heard about a certain chap and a cider barrel. He said there had been cider in it and from the way it sounded he thought there might be cider in it yet. So I sometimes think I have a speech to make but when I get on the floor I feel that I am mistaken. [Laughter.]

I want to speak of some things alluded to by the Senator from Marion, [Mr. Cavin.] I have the highest respect for him as a gentleman and for his candor and fairness, and I am disposed to believe that in making his statements he has been candid and fair in all this matter. As far as the question with regard to the legality of these donations is concerned, I leave that for legal gentleman. In the first place let us look over the amounts of the donations trom Marion and Tippecanoe Counties. He started out by specifying that the two propositions were nearly equal. I differ with him about one hundred thousand dollars. From Marion County I make it in round numbers about two hundred thousand dollars, and when I take up Tippecanoe-I don't know any thing about these buildings at the Battleground—I get in round numbers about three hundred thousand dollars. But let us look at it from the standpoint that the two propositions are equal as far as dollars and cents are concerned, and notice that Marion County is in a central position. Yet we ask the gentleman: What has the Northwestern Institute received? Nothing. We look at this city and see what has been done for it by the public money out of the people's pockets. Here are buildinas all about it with spires pointing up to Heaven that give evidence of the liberality of the people of

Indiana-if figured up it would amount to hundreds of thousands of dollars, and it has had a great deal to do with building up the wealth of this city. At the Wabash river we have an institution erected by the State, the Normal School; and between us and there we have the House of Refuge. Go east and there is the Soldiers' Home; but look in the direction of Tippecanoe County. Has she not paid her part of the taxes to build up these magnificent buildings all around this city? And submitting this question in candor, for I don't know any other way to talk except as a candid man, suppose the propositions of this county were equivalent to the propositions from Tippecanoe I ask Senators which should have the preference to-day? I ask you when you go to vote upon this bill to let this stand out before

you.

gard to the proposition of Mr. Purdue. He thinks it selfish. Let me tell you to-day I might regret if I had a mother and she was a widow that she could not marry Mr. Purdue, because, inasmuch as that gentleman has no children I would like him to be my step father so that I might receive his wealth,[Laughter.] He proposes to give one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and his proposition is to give it in ten years, but such is his interest in it, that he will pay it when it is needed, and in addition he proposes to give one hundred acres of land, and I understand that will be worth twenty thousand dollars more. Here is a gentleman having all the wealth necessary to live, without lacking for anything; he makes this donation, and because he only wants to look over this matter, he is said to be parsi

monious and selfish. But our friend didn't tell us that this church was selfish because they want at least half of the control of this Agricultural College.

Mr. CAVIN (interposing.) The institution does not want any control over it at all.

Mr. HAMILTON. It does seem to me as though they want the control over it; but we will look after old Father Purdue. Can we be suspicious of an individual that has made such a magnanimous offer? And can we deny that he should have some interest in that matter? I have a different conception of it. If some individual should propose to give that amount to me, and while he lived desire to control it for my benefit, I would say "sir, go it, because it would be safer in your hands than in mine."

I want to refer to one fact in regard to this proposition of the Battleground. My worthy friend over there-and we ought to like each other because we are both Kentuckians-is laboring under a mistake when he concludes there is nothing in that proposition. They don't propose to ask the State to give them anything for it. I have a little farm over in Boone, and if I would propose to give that to the Senator wouldn't he think it would be worth ten cents? Let us compare it with the Christian University. I never will give my vote to locate this Agricultural College Fund with any religious denomination. The people I am connected with have two institutions and they are building another in Warren County, of which I am a trustee, and if you were to ask me to take it with any of these institutions I Look at this question candidly. I want this would not do it. This Christian University by thing located and got out of the way. At the their plan might have four of the Directors, distance of my people from the two counties, for they would be just as likely to secure the I look at it as a matter of justice that Tippeseventh one as the three chosen by the Legis- canoe should have it. It is not going to cost lature. Do we propose to throw this Institu- a great deal to get there from any part of the tion under the control of a religious denomin-State. And as the darkey said when asked ation? sectarian, I propose to say to a great extent for to a great extent we are all sectarian. I take the position that the Tippecanoe proposition is decidedly the best to say nothing about the buildings at the Battleground which amounts to one hundred thousand dollars. That would give us quite a start in preparing material for a magnificent building there.

how far it was from such a place? It 'pends on how you is goin' if you is goin' horseback 'its fifteen miles, if you is goin' to walk 'tis thirty miles, but if you is goin' on the iron horse you is most dar now." [Laughter.] I think we had better have this thing out of the way. With these remarks I will add nothing more.

Then there is quite a difference between Mr. STEIN. Mr. President: At this late Marion and Tippecanoe Counties as to the se-hour of the day and session I feel reluctant to curity of the propositions coming from the add any thing to what has been said; yet as my County Boards-the proposition coming from si'ence might be reflected on in other quarters Tippecanoe County is vouched for by gentle- I cannot properly avoid, (even at the risk of inmen of ability for wealth, yet the honorable dulging in a repetition of what I may have at Senator before us, [from Marion County, one or another time already said,) to submit could not present his in a shape that was legal, what occurs to me in relation to a comparison 'but relied on some future action of the Legis- of the offers from Tippecanoe and Marion lature to legalize it. I do not propose to ope- Counties. But allow me a prefatory remark rate in that way. I differ very much with or two. him-they say great men do differ-with re

I do not desire to travel back at this stagə

and renew the long contest had over this College will require enabling legislation to validate question. I will simply call attention to the such tenders and even then the question great injustice done to the people by delaying remains debateable on Constitutional grounds. the location of the College. A generation of But I merely recall this objection by way of scholarship lasts no longer than about five suggestion. I do not insist upon it for the years, and by our protracted wrangles in the present as against the one hundred thousand past we have lost one class forever. It is quite dollar offer of Marion. I believe this offer is possible that the delay, as intimated by the duly supported by the official action of the Senator from Marion [Mr. Cavi.,] brought County Board. about its blessings, by giving opportunity for But as regards the second offer that of the more liberal contributions now offered. seventy-five thousand dollars. I am surprisBut this result was not of man's seeking-it ed that more indignation was not manifested must be credited to the special Providence on this floor at the shape in which it came to which overruled for good the obstructions inus. It is a communication to the Governor, terposed for evil. But we can no longer trifle signed by three who describe themselves as with the subject in a like manner. The necessity Commissioners of Marion County, asking him of locating the College now is apparent. We to apprise the General Assembly that they have but another session between this and the will appropriate seventy-five thousand dollars expiration of our days of grace in 1872. The &c. When it was read in this chamber, in experience of four sessions wasted in futile ef- the haste of the occasion we were all misled fort is full of admonition against further delay. into the notion that it was an official approTherefore let us not go hence without execut-priation, already duly made by the Board. ing our duty and putting a final quietus upon the contentions which have heretofore beset this great trust.

To return to the propositions now before us from Tippecanoe and Marion. They differ radically, as I conceive, in their character. The one comes to us in a spirit of unselfishness and of devotion to the sacred cause of education-unless, indeed, the honorable pride of a name be deemed a blameable selfishness. Can we say the like of the offer from Marion County? Let us investigate it; let us examine its underlying purposes; let us test its guarantees. I fear we have been deceived by pretentions and appearances. It behoves us in the settlement of this great benefaction of the General Government to walk by a sure path and on safe ground. We cannot fly off at hap hazzard in the wake of a delusive will-o-the-wisp. We should be well assured that the considerations tendered as the price of location will stand fire in the courts of law and can be enforced.

The offer from Marion County, as a County, is one of money. In aid of this certain individuals, and more particularly a sectarian corporation, to which I shall again refer, offers grounds and buildings. The first in order is the County offer. It stands before us in two sections. The first covers an installment of one hundred thousand dollars and has been before us since the last session; the second came a few days ago and pretends to be an offer of seventy-five thousand dollars.

But what is the fact? The Senator from Marion County admits on this floor that there never was such an order made. I charge here that I personally have had the records of the Commissionees' Court examined and that no such order can be found in them. This offer can have been pushed hither for no other purpose than to hoodwink and deceive us. I cast no imputation upon the Senator from Marion, who has my unbounded respect and esteem and who is a man of honor. The offer came to us through another channel—through a message from the Governor; who, also is not to blame, as he could do nothing but lay before us the paper which had been communicated to him, and with the origin and purposes of which he had no connection. But of the offer itself, as it is now clearly understood, I can only say that it deserves to be spurned from this chamber as spurious and calculated to delude. As an inducement for the location of the College in this city it is a snare and should be shunned and repudiated accordingly.

Then what have we from Marion county? One hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars; seventy-five thousand of which is a myth and a vanity. And how is this sum secured? By six per cent Connty bonds payable in ten and twenty years. And these are to form the building fund. We have nothing else to resort to for the erection of the necessary buildings. We cannot encroach upon the scrip fund. The act of Congress forbids that. Then what shall we value these County bonds as a present building fund? What per centage would they bring in the money market; running on such a time and with the risk of being stopped by the action of any discontented tax-payer? Ask the business men of this city. Would they fetch fifty per cent? I have been collecting some It opinions from judicious and reliable parties,

Now I may observe once again, what I have urged before, that all appropriations by County Boards to this object lack a reliable basis of legitimacy. They are open to the warfare of dissatisfied tax payers, who by the process of injunction may haply in a day dissipate the flourishing subsidies now tendered to us.

that the Institution be named the "Purdue University."

and find that the common judgment runs from twenty to forty per cent. By the time we have suffered this shave, what becomes of your one Sir, it strikes me as a vanity worthy of all hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars? honor and imitation. It is the vanity of all We would find that these bonds are but part the genuine philanthropists of our race. of a money scheme, hatched for speculation the honorable and praiseworthy vanity which and ultimately inuring to the benefit of sharp-associates itself with the sacred cause of eduers more interested in the discount than the College.

It is

cation and public morals. We can look with contempt upon the selfish vanity of the Egptian monarch who sought his immortality in the everlasting worthless pyramid, but he who seeks his fame in the advancement of his fellow man-in the dedication of his fortune and his efforts to mental enlightement and public virtue appeals to every sentiment of admiratiou and respect which can animate the human mind. To call this a selfish vanity is to misname things. May the kind Providence who has ever kept the destinies of our Commonwealth in friendly keeping, shower down such selfish vanity bountifully upon our peopeople!

As a legislator I shall always be delighted to assist and encourage it. And let me say in reference to this question of a corperate name

But I fancy I hear the Senator from Marion saying: "We bring you the Northwestern Christian University." True; and I look upon the offer from that Institution as even more obnoxious than that from the County. It comes to us covered and manacled with conditionsall looking to the ultimate absorption of the Agriculture College and its government. The offer from the Fletcher heirs is simply in aid of the Northwestern Christian University. The two are together in the same bed. We are told that we may be fellow lodgers with our College in the University for five years, provided, we in the mean while, work up a building for ourselves on their grounds, and, when our term is out, quit and betake our selves to our own roost. We must keep ourselves caged however on their campus-a patch of some twenty-five acres. They retain the title but for the sake of our company they will give us an undivided half interest. One thing, however, they do not give us; complete control and government. Three of the seven directors shall be of their choosing and the seventh shall be chosen by the preceeding six. Thus they have half the government, and how long, in this city-where the Legislature sits handy and accessible to the continual pres-syllable or a letter added thereto or taken theresure of the most interested party-how long I ask will it be before the Northwestern Christian University owns the whole College and its government?

Sir, I protest agsinst putting this magnificent grant under sectarian inflnences. I share the sentiments of the Senator from Clinton[Mr. Hamilton,] on this subject, and trust the Legislature will be slow in lending ear to solicitations which strike at our sovereignty and the character of the Institution we are called upon to originate.

"Purdue University"-it ts but a small return, and one which costs the State nothing, for the splendid donation he offers. I would deem it a wanton indignity to the liberal spirit in which he stands before us to deny him this distinction or to couple it with qualifying words. What I said to the Committee which had this bill under consideration I say here; that I consider this name as a most harmless and reasonable demand on the part of Mr. Purdue, and that I cannot consent to have a from-and that rather than see it done I should feel myself, with all due respect to my colleagues on this floor, compelled to retire from the field with all his offers and leave the competition to other quarters. I say this on my own motion and not under instructions from Mr. Purdue.

But, I may be told, Mr. Purdue makes further stipulations. True; but they are all for the benefit of the Institution, and with a view to its entire success. He asks to be added to the present Board of Trustees in order to have But consider the offers from my own County a voice in the selection of the precise point in -Tippecanoe. We ask no subtraction of the Tippecanoe County at which the College is to severeignty of the State. We leave the gov-be located. Is this unreasonable? We have ernment of the College and the scheme of ed- auxiliary offers from two localities in our ucation where it now resides-with the Legis- county. One from the old Battleground-the lature. As to our main offer it asks no con- veteran applicant of many years for this inditions except such as the State can readily stitution-the other from Mr.Meharry of Shawgrant without a deduction of its own powers nee Mound. and supervision in all essential matters. It Who is better qualiffed to assist iu this matasks the honor of a name in behalf of the muter of location than one of our most intelligent nificent donor. I am surprised to find this feature of the offer the subject of censorious criticism on this floor. It has been stigmatized as selfish vanity for Mr. Purdue to ask

citizens-familiar with our people and our localities for over thirty years? He also asks that should he during his life time, cease to be trustee, he may be retained as an advisory mem

Under the supervision of such a manager as Mr.Purdue you can with one hundred thousand dollars or one hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars put up such structures on the selected site as will be the pride of every citi- The other day the Supreme Court decided zen of Indiana. Then add what is left over that the Board of Commissioners of Putnam -say one hundred thousand dollars, to the County had no right to take money out of the Congressional fund and you have an endow- Treasury and pay for a poor farm, because ment of about three hundred and fifty thous- they possessed a piece of land they held for and dollars to begin with-yielding a yearly that purpose. Why did they decide so? Uprevenue of from twenty to twenty-five thou- on the principle that the Board of Commissand dollars-sufficient to equip the profes- sioners were trifling with limited powers; and sorships with the finest talent of either hem-powers defined by the law which created the isphere. Behold then the proud and solid foundation which invites your favor. It rests secure in private and local enterprise and casts no menacing side-glace at the Treasury of the State.