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Klingensmith, Lane, Lansing, Laporte, Lawrence, Lay, Mr. WISE, when his name was called, rose and said: Gideon Lee, Joshua Lee, Leonard, Lincoln, Logan, | I refuse to vote at all upon such a proposition; because Abijab Mann, Job Mann, Manning, William Mason, to affirm any proposition by declaratory resolution is to Moses Mason, Samson Mason, May, McCarty, McCo admit it needs affirmation; and because Congress has mas, McKay, McKennan, McKeon, McKim, McLene, no constitutional power either to affirm or deny any Miller, Milligan, Montgomery, Moore, Morgan, Morris, proposition whatever, in relation to slavery in the Muhlenberg, Owens, Page, Parker, Parks, Patterson,
States. Franklin Pierce, Dutee J. Pearce, Phelps, Phillips, Mr. PINCKNEY moved that the gentleman be excuPinckney, Potts, Reed, Rencher, John Reynolds, Joseph sed from voting; which was agreed to. Reynolds, Ripley, Rogers, Russell, Schenck, Seymour, 1 The question being about to be taken on the third Augustine H. Shepperd, Shinn, Sickles, Sloane, Smith, branch of the propositionSpangler, Sprague, Storer, Sutherland, Taylor, Thomas, Mr. UNDERWOOD called for a division of the ques. John Thomson, Toucey, Turrill, Underwood, Vander. tion on this branch, so as to take the question on the poel, Vinton, Wagener, Ward, Wardwell, Washington, clause declaring that Congress " ought not to interfere Webster, Weeks, Whittlesey, Lewis Williams, Sherrod in any way with slavery in the District of Columbia," Williams--174.
and omitting the reasons therefor. NAIS-Messrs. Chilton Allan, Bell, Bouldin, Bunch, The CHAIR decided that the division was in order. Bynum, John Calhoon, Campbell, Carter, John Cham. Mr. BOULDIN appealed from this decision. bers, Chapman, Nathaniel H. Claiborne, Dickson, After a discussion of the point of order, by Messrs. Dromgoole, Forester, French, James Garland, Rice Gar- | UNDERWOOD, BOULDIN, MASON of Virginia, land, Glascock, Graham, Grayson, Griffin, Hammond, BELL, SUTHERLAND, RIPLEY, and HARDIN, Holsey, Henry Johnson, Lawler, Luke Lea, Loyall, Lu The decision of the Chair was affirmed by the House. cas, Lyon, Martin, John Y. Mason, Maury, Mercer, Pat The question being taken on the first clause of the ton, James A. Pearce, Pettigrew, Peyton, Pickens, third branch indicated by the gentleman from Kentucky, Roane, Robertson, William B. Shepard, Standerer, (Mr. UNDERWOOD, ) it was decided in the affirmative, as Steele, Taliaferro, Waddy Thompson, Towns, White, follows: Wise-48.
YEAS--Messrs. Chilton Allan, Anthony, Ash, Ashley, So the first clause was agreed to.
Barton, Beale, Bean, Beaumont, Bell, Bockee, Boon, The question being taken on the second member of Bouldin, Bovee, Boyd, Brown, Bunch, Bynum, John the proposition, it was determined as follows:
Calhoon, Cambreleng, Carr, Carter, Casey, John ChamYeas-Messrs. Chilton Allan, Heman Allen, Anthony, bers, Chaney, Chapman, Chapin, Nathaniel H. Clai. Ash, Ashley, Bailey, Banks, Barton, Beale, Bean, Beau-borne, John F. H. Claiborne, Cleveland, Coffee, Coles, mont, Bell, Bockee, Bond, Boon, Borden, Bouldin, Connor, Craig, Cramer, Cushman, Davis, Deberry, Bovee, Boyd, Briggs, Brown, Bunch, Bynum, William Dickerson, Doubleday, Dromgoole, Dunlap, Efner, B. Calhoun, Cambreleng, Carr, Carter, Casey, George Fairfield, Farlin, Forester, French, Fry, William K. Chambers, John Chambers, Chaney, Chapman, Chapin, Fuller, Galbraith, James Garland, Rice Garland, Gillet, Childs, Nathaniel H. Claiborne, John F. H. Claiborne, | Graham, Grantland, Graves, llaley, Joseph Hall, Hamer, Clark, Cleveland, Coffee, Coles, Connor, Corwin, Craig, Hannegan, Hardin, Harlan, Albert G. Harrison, Hawes, Cramer, Crane, Cushman, Darlington, Davis, Deberry, Hawkins, Haynes, Henderson, Holsey, Hopkins, HowDickerson, Dickson, Doubleday, Dromgoole, Dunlap, ard, Howell, Hubley, Huntington, Huntsman, Ingham, Efner, Evans, Fairfield, Farlin, Forester, Fowler, Jabez Jackson, Jarvis, Jenifer, Joseph Johnson, RichFrench, Fry, Philo C. Fuller, William K. Fuller, Gal-ard M. Johnson, Cave Johnson, Henry Johnson, Benja. braith, James Garland, Gillei, Graham, Granger, Grant | Jones, Judson, Kennon, Kilgore, Kinnard, Klingensmith, land, Graves, Haley, Joseph Hall, Hamer, Hannegan, | Lane, Lansing, Laporte, Lawler, Gideon Lee, Joshua Hard, Hardin, Samuel S. Harrison, Albert G. Harrison, Lee, Luke Lea, Leonard, Logan, Loyall, Lyon, Abijah Hawes, Hawkins, Haynes, Hazeltine, Henderson, lies. Mann, Job Mann, Manning, Martin, John Y. Mason, ter, Hoar, Holsey, Hopkins, Howard, Howell, Hubley, William Mason, Moses Mason, Maury, May, McComas, Hunt, Huntington, Huntsman, Ingersoll, Ingham, Jabez McKay, McKeon, McKim, McLene, Mercer, Miller, Jackson, Jarvis, Jenifer, Joseph Johnson, Richard M. Montgomery, Moore, Morgan, Muhlenberg, Owens, Johnson, Cave Johnson, Henry Johnson, Benjamin Page, Parks, Patterson, Patton, Franklin Pierce, James Jones, Judson, Kennon, Kilgore, Kinnard, Klingensmith, A. Pearce, Pettigrew, Phelps, Pinckney, Rencher, Lane, Lansing, Laporte, Lawler, Lawrence, Lay, G. Lee, Joseph Reynolds, Ripley, Roane, Robertson, Rogers, Joshua Lee, Luke Lea, Leonard, Lincoln, Logan, Love, Schenck, Seymour, William B. Shepard, Augustine H. Loyall, Lyon, Abijah Mann, Job Mann, Manning, Mar- | Shepperd, Shields, Shinn, Sickles, Smith, Spangler, tin, John Y. Mason, William Mason, Moses Mason, | Standefer, Steele, Storer, Sutherland, Taliaferro, Tay. Samson Mason, Maury, May, McCarty, McKay, McKen | lor, Thomas, John Thomson, Toucey, Towns, Turrill, nan, McKeon, McKim, McLene, Mercer, Miller, Milli- Underwood, Vanderpoel, Wagener, Wardwell, Wash. gan, Montgomery, Moore, Morgan, Morris, Muhlen-ington, Weeks, White, Lewis Williams, Sherrod Wilberg. Owens, Page, Parker, Parks, Patterson, Patton, liams-163. Franklin Pierce, Dutee J. Pearce, James A. Pearce, Nars--Messrs. Adams, Heman Allen, Bailey, Banks, Pettigrew, Phelps, Phillips, Pinckney, Potts, Reed, Bond, Borden, Briggs, William B. Calhoun, George Rencher, John Reynolds, Joseph Reynolds, Ripley, Chambers, Childs, Clark, Corwin, Crane, Cushing, Dar. Roane, Rogers, Russell, Schenck, Seymour, William B. lington, Denny, Evans, Everett, Philo C. Fuller, GranShepard, Augustine H. Shepperd, Shields, Shinn, ger, Hard, Hazeltine, Hiester, Hoar, Hunt, Ingersoll, Sickles, Smith, Spangler, Sprague, Standefer, Steele, William Jackson, Janes, Lawrence, Lay, Lincoln, Love, Storer, Sutherland, Taliaferro, Taylor, Thomas, John Samson Mason, McCarty, McKennan, Morris, Parker, Thomson, Toucey, Towns, Turrill, Underwood, Van Dutee J. Pearce, Phillips, Potts, Reed, Russell, Sloane, derpoel, Vinton, Wagener, Ward, Wardwell, Washing: Sprague, Vinton, Webster, Whittlesey-47. ton, Weeks, White, Whittlesey, Lewis Williams, Sher So the first member of the third clause, as above starod Williams-201.
ted, was agreed to. Nays-Messrs. Adams, Denny, Everett, Rice Garland, The question being then taken on the remaining part Glascock, William Jackson, Robertson-7.
of the third clause, it was decided as follows: So the second clause was agreed to.
Yeas-Messrs. Ash, Ashley, Barton, Beale, Bean,
Bell, Bockee, Bouldin, Bovee, Boyd, Bunch, Bynum, Milligan, Montgomery, Morris, Muhlenberg, Owens,
UNITED STATES AND FRANCE. Anthony, Banks, Beaumont, Bond, Boon, Borden,
The SPEAKER laid before the House the following Briggs, Brown, W.B. Calhoun, Carr, G. Chambers, Cha message from the President of the United States: ney, Childs, Clark, Corwin, Crane, Cushing, Darlington, To the Senate and House of Representatives: Denny, Dickerson, Evans, Everett, Philo C. Fuller, The Government of Great Britain has offered its me. Granger, Haley, Hard, Harlan, Hazeltine, Henderson, diation for the adjustment of the dispute between the Hiester, Hoar, Howell, Hunt, Ingersoll, W. Jackson, United States and France. Carefully guarding that Janes, Judson, Kilgore, Lane, Laporte, Lawrence, Lay, point in the controversy, which, as it involves our honor J. Lee, Lincoln, Love, Job Mann, Samson Mason, Mc- and independence, admits of no compromise, I have Carty, McKennan, Miller, Milligan, Morris, Parker, D. cheerfully accepted the offer. It will be obviously imJ. Pearce, Phillips, Potts, Reed, Russell, Schenck, Shinn, proper to resort even to the mildest measure of a comSloane, Smith, Spangler, Sprague, Storer, John Thompulsory character, until it is ascertained whether France son, Underwood, Vinton, Wardwell, Webster, Whittle has declined or accepted the mediation. I therefore sey, Sherrod Williams-75. So the remainder of the third clause was agreed to.
* From the National Intelligencer. The question being on the remaining portion of the
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, resolution, it was read as follows: " Assigning such reasons for these conclusions as, in
February 10, 1836. the judgment of the committee, may be best calcula Messrs. GALES & SEATON: I perceive in the daily Inted to enlighten the public mind, to repress agitation,
telligencer of this morning, a statement of the yeas and to allay excitement, to sustain and preserve the just rights
nays on the resolution of Mr. Pinckney in relation to of the slave holding States and of the people of this
the subject of slavery. I was, unavoidably, absent from District, and to re-establish harmony and tranquillity
the House on Monday. Had I been present, I should amongst the various sections of the Union."
have voted ay on the first clause of the resolution, fully The question was taken on agreeing to this residue believing that the whole subject ought to be referred to of the resolution, and determined it the affirmative, as a committee. On the second clause, wbich affirms that follows:
Congress possesses no constitutional power to interfere YEAS-Messrs. Adams, Chilton Allan, Anthony, Ash,
with slavery in the States," I should have also voted ay. Banks Beale, Bean, Beaumont, Bell, Bond, Boon, Bor
On the third clause, which declares that “Congress ought den, Bouldin, Boyd, Brown, Bunch, Bynum, Job not to interfere in any way with slavery in the District Calhoon, William B. Calhoun, Cambreleng, Carr, of Columbia,” I should have voted no, for this, among Carter, Casey, George Chambers, John Chambers, other reasons: that I believe Congress ought to interfere Chaney, Chapman, Chapin, N. H. Claiborne, J. F. H. | with the slave trade in the District. The last clause, Claiborne, Cleveland, Coffee, Coles, Connor, Corwin,
which directs the committee to assign reasons why ConCraig, Cramer, Crane, Cushing, Cushman, Darlington,
gress ought not to interfere with slavery in the States or Deberry, Dickerson, Doubleday, Dromgoole, Dunlap, in the District, would have presented some difficulties, esFairfield. Forester French Fry Philo C. Fóller. Wil. pecially as all the other parts of the resolution had been liam K. Fuller, Galbraith, James Garland, Rice Garland, adopted when the vote was taken on it. I should, how. Gillet, Graham, Grantland, Graves, Haley, Joseph Hall, ever, have placed my name among those of the six gentle. Hamer, Hannegan, Hardin, Harlan, Albert G. Harrison, men who voted no, on the ground that the appointment of Hawkins, Haynes, Hazeltine, Henderson, Holsey, Hop counsel by the House to argue one side of a question sub. kins, Howard, Howell, Hubley, Huntington, Huntsman,
mitted to their consideration, without power to investiIngersoll, Ingham, Jabez Jackson, Janes, Jarvis, Jenifer, gate the other, is not well sustained by precedent, and R.M. Johnson, Cave Johnson, Judson, Kilgore, Kinnard, but poorly calculated to give weight and character to Klingensmith, Lane, Lansing, Laporte, Lawler, Joshua the argument they might produce. Lee, Luke Lea, Leonard, Lincoln, Logan, Love, Loy. You will oblige me, gentlemen, by inserting this in all, Abijah Mann, J. Mann, Manning, Martin, J. Y. Mason, your to-morrow's paper. William Mason, Moses Mason, Samson Mason, Maury, Very respectfully, your obedient servant, McComas, McKay, McKeon, McKim, Mercer, Miller,
recommend a suspension of all proceedings on that part terfere in any way with the institution of slavery in any of my special message of the 15th of January last, which of the States of this confederacy,” it is our intention to proposes a partial non-intercourse with France. While prevent any discussion of that question, so far as it is in we cannot too highly appreciate the elevated and disin- our power, or even its submission as a proposition to terested motives of the offer of Great Britain, and have | Congress; and being determined now, and at all other a just reliance upon the great influence of that Power times, to resist any such assumption of authority, we will to restore the relations of ancient friendship between not permit any doubt of such absence of constitutional the United States and France, and know, too, that our power to be questioned or inferred by consenting to reown pacific policy will be strictly adhered to antil the fer it to the committee of a body baving no jurisdiction, national honor compels us to depart from it, we should and obtaining from it a disclaimer of a want of such be insensible to the exposed condition of our country, authority. and forget the lessons of experience, if we did not The undersigned having been prevented from stating efficiently and sedulously prepare for an adverse re their objections in the House to the aforesaid clause in sult. The peace of a nation does not depend exclusive the instructions, by the previous question having been ly upon its own will, nor upon the beneficent policy of called for and sustained, within one hour after this most neighboring Powers; and that nation which is found important resolution was submitted, now, to prevent all totally unprepared for the exigencies and dangers of misconception or misconstruction as to their motives and war, although it come without having given warning of opinions, submit this their solemn protest against this its approach, is criminally negligent of its bonor and its | House entertaining any such proposition, and respectfulduty. I cannot too strongly repeat the recommendationly ask that it, and their reasons, as herein briefly stated, already made to place the seaboard in a proper state of may be entered on the journal. defence, and promptly to provide the means for amply
RICE GARLAND, protecting our commerce.
THOMAS GLASCOCK, ANDREW JACKSON.
JOHN ROBERTSON. WASHINGTON, February 8, 1836.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, February 9, 1836. On motion of Mr. MASON, of Virginia, the message Objections being made, was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs, and Mr. GARLAND moved that the rules be suspended ordered to be printed.
for the purpose of enabling him to offer the paper; and, The House then, at a quarter after five o'clock, P. thereupon, he asked the yeas and nays; which were orM., adjourned.
The question being taken on suspending the rules for TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 9.
this purpose, it was decided in the negative: Yeas 81,
nays 136. SLAVERY IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
On motion of Mr. CAMBRELENG, the House then Mr. GARLAND, of Louisiana, offered, on the part of resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on the bimself and Messrs. GLASCOCK, of Georgia, and ROBERT state of the Union, Mr. MILLER in the cbair. son, of Virginia, a protest, to be entered on the journal,
NAVAL APPROPRIATION BILL. against the first clause of the instructions contained in the resolution of the gentleman from South Carolina,
On motion of Mr. CAMBRELENG, the committee adopted yesterday.
took up the bill making appropriations for the naval serThe protest was read, as follows:
vice for the year 1836. The undersigned, who voted in the House of Repre The bill had before been under the consideration of sentatives on Monday, the 8th instant, against the first
the Committee of the Whole, and the pending amend. clause of the instructions to the select committee pro ment was Mr. CAMBRELENG's to strike out $950,000 posed to be raised under the resolution offered by Mr. and insert the sum of $2,000,000, for repairs of vessels PINCKNEY, to which "all the memorials which have in ordinary, and the repairs and wear and tear of vessels been offered or may hereafter be presented to this in commission, and completing those on the stocks. House, praying for the abolition of slavery in the Dis. Mr. CAMBRELENG withdrew the amendment, so as trict of Columbia, and also the resolution offered by annot to embarrass the passage of the present bill, and eshonorable member from Maine, (Mr. Janvis,] with the pecially as the subject would come up in a separate bill, amendment thereto proposed by an honorable member to be reported by the Committee on Naval Affairs. This from Virginia, (Mr. WISE,] together with every other being the ordinary appropriation bill, and Mr. C. having paper or proposition that may be submitted in relation withdrawn the only amendment pending, he hoped it to the subject," are to be referred; which clause is as would pass without delay. follows: (that Congress possesses no constitutional
Mr. BELL moved to reduce the several appropriations authority to interfere in any way with the institution of for the navy yards one half the amount proposed in the slavery in any of the States of this confederacy," did so bill. Mr. Be read the various items proposed, and mainvote, and now protest against said clause:
tained that such large appropriations might not be passed, 1. Because the constitutional power of Congress to in the prospect of a contingency that might probably interfere in any way with the institution of slavery in ensue. The items were as follows: any of the States of this confederacy” is not brought in For improvements and necessary repairs of the nary question, or in any manner referred to, in any memorial yardthat has been presented, or in the resolution mentioned, At Portsmouth, New Hampshire, - - $67,000 or the amendment thereto, and we will not consent to At Charlestown, Massachusetts, - - 199,000 have so vital and important a proposition brought forward At Brooklyn, New York,
. 84,300 gratuitously, referred to a committee of this House, re At Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, - - 11,750 ported on, and reasons given for a conclusion, not open At Washington,
. 37,500 to discussion, thereby, as we conceive, admitting the At Gosport, Virginia, .
- 167,000 power of Congress to entertain the question, and asking At Pensacola, - .
- 64,000 its opinion upon a subject about which it has no right to Mr. JARVIS thought the gentleman should at least express one.
examine whether the appropriations were necessary or 2. Because believing, as we do, that it is undeniable not, before he made a sweeping motion to reduce the “Congress possesses no constitutional authority to in- | whole of them indiscriminately one half. Mr. J. then
read various estimates and details from the officers of the that committee, (Mr. MANN, of New York,] on the Department, in reference to the proposed items. Mr. J. ground of the expense. Mr. U. complained of the exsaid, whether there was peace or war, these works should travagance of the proposed items in this bill, and hoped be completed.
they would be amended. The members of the commitMr. BELL again opposed the items, on the ground tees in charge of this bill came generally from the large that this was not the time to make such an extraordinary cities, and they were therefore more interested in the outlay of the public money, when the public resources proposed appropriations. might be wanted for other objects. He then modified Mr. D. J. PEARCE, of Rhode Island, said it was arhis motion, in order to test the question, by confining gued that they ought to curtail these appropriations, bethe amendment at present to the first item, and moved cause there was a surplus on hand from last year. All the that the appropriation for the navy yard at Portsmouth, money on hand, he conceived, was pledged; some portions New Hampshire, be reduced to $33,500, being one half for the payment of the crews of vessels on long voyages, the amount proposed in the bill.
and for timber and other materials contracted for. There Mr. SUTHERLAND said he would vote for the pro was, at the end of every fiscal year, an unexpended balposed appropriations, unless gentlemen could show that ance, but that balance was pledged, and could not be they were unnecessary, or incorrect. In the first place, transferred, for any other purpose whatsoever. He was an appropriation was asked, for the purpose of making in favor of making appropriations speedily, to finish the a timber shed: that he considered necessary for the works already commenced; because delaying the com. preservation of the timber. Another was for a mast and pletion of the kind of work contemplated in this item boat house: that he also considered necessary, whether generally resulted in a loss of twenty per cent. He there should be war or not. A timber dock was also would take the estimates and recommendations of the asked for: that the officers whose duty it was to attend navy board, or the Secretary of the Navy, as correct, to that business had thought necessary; and he would unless gentlemen could show that those statements were take their word, unless gentlemen could show that they erroneous. were incorrect.
Mr. PHILLIPS should vote for this appropriation, as Mr. CUSHMAN hoped the motion of the gentleman he should vote for every other, for a public object, from Tennessee (Mr. BELL) would not prevail. It was where nothing could be adduced against its propriety his intention, if the pending amendment was negatived, and necessity. He was satisfied that, from the increase to ask for an additional sum for the navy yard at Ports of materials, and for other reasons, the estimated amount mouth, New Hampshire. The improvements proposed was not too large. Mr. P. entered at length into sundry by the Naval Committee were absolutely necessary in time statements connected with the subject, and the unexof peace, and no remark which he should make would pended balances under the acts of 1827 and 1833. Mr. be predicated upon the supposition of a war with France. P. should like to know from the chairman of the Naval That Power, he was persuaded, would not persist in her Committee, what amount remained of the unexpended refusal to carry into effect the treaty of 1831. The ap. balance on this navy yard, for the last year. propriation asked for was not made upon the ground Mr. JARVIS replied that it was impossible for him to supposed by tke gentleman from Tennessee; it had no say what amount remained unexpended of a balance of reference to a war with France. It was a wise saying $1,750. and a correct principle, which should never be lost sight Mr. PHILLIPS admitted the item was very trifling, of, that in peace we should prepare for war. He repeated, but he should apply the same principle to all the unex that the proposed improvements and repair of the navy pended balances of the other items, and he should renew yard at Portsmouth were absolutely necessary, under the same inquiry upon each of them. He complained any state of things. He had three weeks ago submitted that no statements of those balances had been furnished a resolution, directing an inquiry into the expediency of from the Departments. He thought the chairman of erecting one or more wbarves at this navy yard, and it the committee should be prepared with them. was for this object he contemplated asking for an addi Mr. DUNLAP said it could not be expected that those tion al sum to that contained in the bill.
who came from a different section of country than that Mr. PARKER replied to Mr. BELL, and recited the where these works were situated should vote for them clauses of an act of Congress authorizing the construction without statements or estimates. He was ever ready to of certain navy yards, and the report of the Department | vote for appropriations that were requisite, but he could made to Congress. Mr. P. maintained at length that the not conceive that it was necessary to vote a sum of proposed appropriations were necessary, and it was false $18,000 to erect a shed to protect timber, at least until economy to suppose any thing would be saved by redu his mind was satisfied that it was indispensable: he never cing them one half.
should vote to appropriate the people's money for this Mr. WHITE, of Florida, said, so far from the reduc purpose. He hoped the amendment would prevail. tion of that for the navy yard at Pensacola being possi Mr. BELL explained that he was not so much opposed ble, he intended to move to double the proposed appro- to the appropriation itself, as he was to such large appriation as soon as the proper time arrived.
propriations at this time. It was with him a mere ques. The CHAIR said that point was not then under con- tion of expediency; for, in case of war, the money would sideration.
be wanted to equip ships of war, and put the country Mr. UNDERWOOD said he had looked into the ap- in a state of defence. He did not want to delay this bill, propriations for Portsmouth for the last two years. He but he pledged himself at a future day to go into the found that in 1834 it was $40,700, and in 1835, $39,925, whole subject, not only of our foreign relations, fortifiwhile $67,000 was proposed for the present year, the cations, &c., but of the whole civil establishment of the only explanation of which was, that a large portion of it Government. was required for erecting sheds to preserve the live oak Mr. CAMBRELENG was happy to hear that it was timber. He thought, at least, the appropriation should not the gentleman's (Mr. Bell's] purpose to oppose the be reduced to the limit of the last two years, and not passage of the ordinary appropriation bill, for Mr. C. contain an excess of between $20,000 and $30,000. He thought he knew that gentleman too well to suppose he said the House was very economical in small matters, would waste his fire upon so small an occasion. The and a trifting proposition, handed in by himself to the gentleman had told them that, on a proper occasion, he Committee on the Rules, to furnish lists of yeas and nays would come forward. Mr. C. hoped the gentleman for the people, was returned to him by the chairman of I would then give them his views, and he hoped, when he
did so, that he would be more successful in explaining On motion of Mr. MANN, of New York, the committhem than he had been on this present occasion, to this tee then rose, reported progress, and House. Mr. C. had been unable to understand what the The House adjourned. gentleman had been driving at. The gentleman said, whether war or peace was to ensue, he wished to reserve our funds, in order, if called upon for large appro
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 10. priations, they might apply them to the proper object. Well, taking this for granted, suppose they should be
NAVAL APPROPRIATION BILL, called upon to make large appropriations during the The committee resumed the consideration of the bill present session, to defend ourselves from war with making appropriations for the naval service for the year France, was this the place the gentleman proposes to 1836. The question pending was the proposed amendsave the means to do it? Would he propose to diminish ment of Mr. BELL, to reduce the appropriation for the the conveniences of the navy yards in such a crisis? Let improvement and necessary repairs of the navy yard at any man look to the present condition of our navy yards, Portsmouth, New Hampshire, from $67,000 to $33,500. and compare them with the most insignificant Power of Mr. MANN, of New York, said that when he made Europe--Sweden, Denmark, or any other petty Power the motion yesterday that the committe
the motion yesterday that the committee rise, it was not of the Atlantic--and what were they? They were in as with a view to enter into this debate, and he would not bad a condition as our fortifications. Mr. C. then refer- trouble the committee with but a very few general rered to the acts by which a gradual increase of the navy marks. On looking into the estimates for the current had been authorized, and compared the proposed items year, for the navy, it will be perceived that the whole in this bill with those of former years, to show that they increase asked for by the navy board, constituted for the varied in some particulars, some more and some less express purpose of supervising this important arm of the He had hoped, when he withdrew the amendment of public service, combining great experience and fidelity, $2,000,000, that the bill would have gone speedily “having seen some service," amounts to the sum of through the committee. He had withdrawn that propo- $622,151 75; a sum certainly very moderate, considersition for the purpose of facilitating the passage of ihe ing the state of the country, and its proud financial conordinary appropriation bill, and he did not anticipate the dition. This increase, we are informed, is occasioned by opposition of the gentleman from Tennessee, (Mr. BELL.) the proposed addition to the force to be employed in Mr. C. said that, be the result of our foreign relations commission, and in consequence of the increased pay of what they might, he should vote to put this country in | the officers, under the law of the last session. As to the an attitude for war, not only upon the ground of expe. immediate question before the committee, the improve. diency, but upon the ground of policy, not to suffer this ment and repair of the navy yard at Portsmouth, and the nation to be insulted by every Power on earth. He other navy yards of the United States, it seems to me, hoped the bill would pass as it stood.
Mr. Chairman, that its importance must be apparent to Mr. HARDIN said he could not but admire the large the committee, and to the country, whether we contemness of the views of the gentleman from New York (Mr. plate the contingencies of our foreign relations or not. CAMBRELENG) upon the subject of those appropriations. For this purpose the increase of appropriation asked for A bill, amounting altogether to the sum of about four is $287,010. The commissioners deem this necessary hundred thousand dollars, was considered so small a mat. | to meet the immediate wants of the public service. The ter in his eyes that he could not perceive how gentlemen commissioners remark that, “although much has been could object to it. And a gentleman from Pennsylvania done in the different yards since the adoption of ap[Mr. SUTHERLAND! had said that they ought to take all proved plans under the law of 3d of March, 1827, much the estimates and recommendations of the Departments still remains to be done to provide adequate means for as correct, until the contrary was shown. He thought the preservation of the materials which a prudent foreif that gentleman would look around he would see that it sight has directed to be collected for future use, or to was almost impossible for members on that floor to show prepare the necessary conveniences for building, repairthat those estimates were not correct, even if that shoulding, and equipping ships with proper economy and debe the case; and, according to that doctrine, the House spatch." This recommendation is clear and explicit, emwould have to give all that the Departments asked. He anating from a source entitled to great respect, and which, thought, however, he saw the object of gentlemen in I presume, will not be suspected of "Executive dictarecommending large appropriations. He thought they tion to Congress,” to use the favorite language of some were in reality nothing but a trick to get all the surplus gentlemen. The importance of these great naval depots, revenue expended on the seaboard; and not to give the for the construction and repair of the navy, must be apwestern country a cent of it.
parent, even to gentlemen representing the great West: Mr. PARKER said that a part of the increase of ex. for they are equally so, in truth, to every part of this penditure was on account of the increase in pay of offi- wide country. Sir, let me ask those gentlemen to reflect cers of the navy, and the greater number of men required upon their vast interests; their immense commerce float. this year over the last; and he hoped the committee ing down the Mississippi, and requiring more protection was ready to vote on the subject, and that the original in the Gulf of Mexico than is now afforded to it, and appropriation would be sustained.
that too from the navy. That portion of our coast seems Mr. PHILLIPS explained. He said he had asked the | to me to require more adequate provision for its defence; chairman of the Committee of Naval Affairs, whether he and I would vote without scruple an appropriation for a could furnish the committee with a statement of the dry dock, to be constructed at the navy yard at Pensacoamount of the unexpended balance of last year, as he could la, to enable our ships cruising there and in the West not ascertain from the documents whether it had been Indies to repair and refit; to enlarge that navy yard, and expended or not; and he thought the House was getting supply it with every requisite to be useful and efficient. into a loose way of making appropriations. With regard The true policy of the country requires that these great to the navy, he was in favor of the most liberal expendi- naval depots should be well prepared and supplied with ture; but he did not wish to expend money, unless it was all the material of naval preparation. Believing this, for actually necessary. If they would give him the informa- myself, sir, (said Mr, M.,) I do not see the propriety of tion, he would probably go as far in favor of appropri-agreeing to the motion of the gentleman from Tennessee, ations for the defence of the country as any other gen- [Mr. BELL,) to reduce the appropriation for the improve tleman.
ment and repair of the navy yard at Portsmouth,