Mrs. Knowles affected to complain that men had much more liberty 1778. allowed them than women. Johnson. “Why, Madam, women have all Ætat. Og 69. the liberty they should wish to have. We have all the labour and the danger, and the women all the advantage. We go to sea, we build houses, we do every thing, in short, to pay our court to the women." Mrs. Knowles. “ The Doctor reasons very wittily, but not convincingly. Now, take the instance of building; the mason's wife, if she is ever seen in liquor, is ruined. The mason may get himself drunk as often as he pleases, with little loss of character; nay, may let his wife and children starve." JOHNSON. “ Madam, you must consider, if the mason does get himself drunk, and let his wife and children starve, the parish will oblige him to find security for their maintenance. We have different modes of restraining evil. Stocks for the men, a ducking-stool for women, and a pound for beasts. If we require more perfection from women than from ourselves, it is doing them honour. And women have not the same temptations that we have: they may always live in virtuous company ; men must mix in the world indiscriminately. If a woman has no inclination to do what is wrong, being secured from it is no restraint to her. I am at liberty to walk into the Thames ; but if I were to try it, my friends would restrain me in Bedlam, and I should be obliged to them.” Mrs. Knowles. “Still, Doctor, I cannot help thinking it a hardship that more indulgence is allowed to men than to women. It gives a superiority to men, to which I do not see how they are entitled.” Johnson. " It is plain, Madam, one or other must have the superiority. As Shakspeare says, * If two men ride on horseback, one must ride behind.” DILLY. "I suppose, Sir, Mrs. Knowles would have them to ride in panniers, one on each side.” Johnson. “ Then, Sir, the horse would throw them both." Mrs. Knowles. “ Well, I hope that in another world the sexes will be equal.” BoswelL. “ That is being too ambitious, Madam. We might as BOSWELL well desire to be equal with the angels. We shall all, I hope, be happy in a future state, but we must not expect to be all happy in the fame degree. It is enough if we be happy according to our several capacities. A worthy carman will get to heaven as well as Sir Isaac Newton. Yet, though equally good, they will not have the same degrees of happiness.” Johnson. “ Probably not.” Upon this subject I had once before founded him, by mentioning the late Reverend Mr. Brown, of Utrecht's image; that a great and finall glass, though equally full, did not hold an equal quantity; which he threw out to refute David Hume's saying, that a little miss, going to dance at a ball, in a VOL. II. fine Gg Ætat. 69. 1778. fine new dress, was as happy as a great oratour, after having made an elo. La quent and applauded speech. After some thought, Johnson said, “I come over to the parfon.” As an initance of coincidence of thinking, Mr. Dilly told me, that Dr. King, a late dissenting minister in London, said to him, upon the happiness in a future state of good men of different capacities, “ A pail does not hold so much as a tub; but, if it be equally full, it has no reason to complain. Every Saint in heaven will have as much happiness as he can hold.” Mr. Dilly thought this a clear, though a familiar illustration of the phrase, “ One ftar differeth from another in brightness.” Dr. Mayo having asked Johnson's opinion of Soame Jennyns's “ View of the internal Evidence of the Christian Religion ;"- Johnson. “I think it a pretty book; not very theological indeed; and there seems to be an affectation of ease and carelesiness, as if it were not suitable to his character to be very serious about the matter.” Boswell. “He may have intended this to introduce his book the better among genteel people, who might be unwilling to read too grave a treatise. There is a general levity in the age. We have physicians now with bag-wigs ; may we not have airy divines, at least somewhat less solemn in their appearance than they used to be?” Johnson. Jennyns might mean as you say.” Boswell. “ You should like his book, Mrs. Knowles, as it maintains, as you friends do, that courage is not a Christian virtue." Mrs. Knowles. “ Yes, indeed, I like him there; but I cannot agree with him, that friendship is not a Christian virtue.” Johnson. “ Why, Madam, strictly speaking, he is right. All friendship is preferring the interest of a friend, to the .neglect, or, perhaps, against the interest of others; so that an old Greek said, “He that has, friends has no friend. Now Christianity recommends universal benevolence, to consider all men as our brethren, which is contrary to the virtue of friendship, as described by the ancient philosophers. Surely, Madam, your fect must approve of this ; for, you call all men friends.” Mrs. Knowles. “ We are commanded to do good to all men, but especially to them who are of the household of Faith.” Johnson. “Well, Madam. The household of Faith is wide enough.” Mrs. KNOWLES. “ But, Doctor, our Saviour had twelve Apostles, yet there was one whom he loved. John was called the disciple whom Jesus loved.” Johnson. (with eyes sparkling benignantly) “ Very well, indeed, Madam. You have said very well.” Boswell. “ A fine application. Pray, Sir, had you ever thought of it?” Johnson. “I had not, Sir.” From this amiable and pleasing subject, he, I know not how or why, made a sudden transition to one upon which he was a violent aggrefor; for he. said, 1778. Ætat. 69. said, “ I am willing to love all mankind, except an American :" and his in Aam- , ” BOSWELL. him G g 2 1778. Ætal. 69. him so nild in discussing a question of the most abstract nature, which is involved with theological tenets, which he generally would not suffer to be in any degree opposed . He as usual defended luxury; “You cannot spend money in luxury without doing good to the poor. Nay, you do more good to them by spending it in luxury than by giving it; for by spending it in luxury you make them exert industry, whereas by giving it you keep them idle. I own, indeed, there may be more virtue in giving it immediately in charity than in spending it in luxury; though there may be a pride in that too.” Miss Seward asked if this was not Mandeville's doctrine of “private vices publick benefits." Johnson. “ The fallacy of that book is, that Mandeville defines neither vices nor benefits. He reckons among vices every thing that gives pleasure. He takes the narrowest system of morality, monastick morality, which holds pleasure itself to be a vice, such as eating falt with our fish, because it makes it taste better; and he reckons wealth as a publick benefit, which is by no means always true. Pleasure of itself is not a vice. Having a garden, which we all know to be perfectly innocent, is a great pleasure. At the same time, in this state of being there are many pleasures vices, which however are so immediately agreeable that we can hardly abstain from them. The happiness of Heaven will be, that pleasure and virtue will be perfectly consistent. Mandeville puts the case of a man who gets drunk at an alehouse; and says it is a publick benefit, because so much money is got by it to the publick. But it must be considered, that all the good gained by this, through the gradation of alehouse-keeper, brewer, maltster, and farmer, is overbalanced by the evil caused to the man and his family by his getting drunk. This is the way to try what is vicious, by ascertaining whether more evil than good is produced by it upon the whole, which is the case in all vice. It may happen that good is produced by vice; but not as vice; for instance, a robber may take money from its owner, and give it to one who will make a better use of it. Here is good produced; but not by the robbery as robbery, but as translation of property. I read Mandeville forty, or I believe fifty years ago. He did not puzzle me; he opened my views into real life very much. No, it is clear that the happiness of society depends on virtue. In Sparta theft was allowed by general consent; theft, therefore, was there not a crime, 8 • If any of my readers are difturbed by this thorny question, I beg leave to secommend to them Ierter 69 of Montesquieu's Lettres Perfannes; and the late Mr. John Palmer of Islington's Answer to Dr. Prieftley's mechanical arguments for what he calls “ Philosophical Necessity.” but a but then there was no fecurity; and what a life must they have had when 7778. Talking of Miss , a literary lady, he said, “I was obliged to speak Somebody mentioned the Reverend Mr. Mason's prosecution of Mr. Murray, the bookseller, for having inserted in a collection of “ Gray's Poems,”” only fifty lines, of which Mr. Mason had still the exclusive property, under the statute of Queen Anne ; and that Mr. Mason had persevered, notwith-standing his being requested to name his own terms of compensation Johnson signified his displeasure at Mr. Mason's conduct very strongly; but added, by way of shewing that he was not surprized at it, “ Mason's a Whig.” Mrs. Knowles. (not hearing distinctly). What! a Prig, Sir?” Johnson. “ JOHNSON “ Worse, Madam ; a Whig! But he is both.” I expressed a horrour at the thought of death. Mrs. Knowles. “Nay, « . JOHNSON a a • See “ A Letter to W. Mason, A. M. from J. Murray, Bookseller in London ;" 2d edition, 20.. Buc. 1 |