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7.-LORD BUCKINGHAM to Pery. “ 1780, April the 23rd. [Dublin Castle.]—You will easily conceive the degree of anxiety which I must feel for the business of to-morrow, and therefore cannot but forgive my earnestly soliciting such assistance as, consistently with your sentiments and your situation, you can with propriety give.

In consequence of the behaviour of the Dutch, all treaties with them are provisionally suspended.Believe me, with the greatest regard, your most faithful and most obedient servant, BUCKINGHAM.”

" This requires no answer.'

8.-LORD BUCKINGHAM to Pery. “ 1780, May the 22nd. [Dublin Castle.)-Not having had the satisfaction of seeing you at the meeting yesterday, I cannot refrain, from troubling you with a short letter, at a crisis which a few days may possibly materially influence, upon the relative situation of the two kingdoms. Should my ideas prove erroneous, over caution in times like the present is a venial error. If they are founded, it will hereafter be a kind of melancholy consolation to have entered my private protest in the recollection of a gentleman of your distinguished weight. If an Irish meeting bill is forced, and consequently transmitted, there cannot be a doubt, from every insinuation which has reached me, (not indeed officially) that the English ministry will submit the measure to Parliament. Permit me to appeal to your own candor and sound discretion whether the language of your House of Commons has been such as to teach them temperance, or the principles affectedly and unnecessarily paraded calculated to induce them to receive novel propositions from Ireland with particular predilection ? Orators also may be found there, as well disposed to sacrifice the tranquillity of the empire to the display of their talents and mob adulation, as of those whose philippics stamp a value upon the ‘Freeman's Journal.' What must be the consequential catastrophe ? I had much rather ask the question than answer it. You are so zealous a friend to Ireland, and so meritoriously attached to propriety and good order that, though you may not concur in my sentiments, you will applaud that solicitude by which they are dictated, as you well know it arises as much from my affection to your country as my duty to my own.—Believe me, with the truest regard, dear sir, your most faithful and most obedient servant, BUCKINGHAM."

9.-Pery to Sir RICHARD HERON. “ 1780, 17 Sep. EDMUNDSBERRY.—I have received the honor of your letter of the 15th instant, acquainting me that his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant being of opinion that the appointing one of the commissioners of the revenue to be first commissioner (as at the boards of treasury, admiralty, and trade iu England) and to be in a more especial manner responsible to government for the transaction of business at that board, would have a beneficial effect in the conduct of the business and establish a degree of responsibility in one commissioner which can hardly be expected from many, among whom authority is equally divided, his Excellency has judged it necessary previously to consult me amongst others and to requiro my sentiments upon the idea. I find myself illqualified to give any opinion upon the subject, especially as I am not informed of the nature of the constitution of the boards of treasury, admiralty and trade in England, to which it is intended the board of

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commissioners of the revenue here shell bear some resemblance, or of the particular powers with which the respective members of those boards are invested.

However, my respect for his Excellency, and earnest desire to obey his commands, will not permit me to withhold from him my thoughts, though I am sensible they are crude and imperfect. It has long been the opinion of gentlemen, who were most conversant in revenue business, that some alteration in the revenue board was necessary for the public service. Several plans were proposed and at length that for the division of the board, by separating the commissioners of excise from those of customs, was adopted. But that not having been approved of by the Commons, and as it was found impracticable to carry it effectually into execution without an act of Parliament, the ancient constitution was restored. The commissions both of excise and customs are granted in pursuance of acts of Parliament which regulate the manner in which they are to be granted, and they cannot be granted in any other manner. This appears clearly by a late act which empowers his majesty to grant commissions of excise in a different manner from that in which commissions were to be granted under the first act in Charles the Second's reign, As the commissions are regulated by act of Parliament, so are the powers with which the commissioners are invested; and the same powers and authority are given by those laws to the commissioners indifferently without distinction, and they are made equally responsible for their acts.

I confess therefore I cannot see how it is possible, so long as the law continues as it is, to give greater powers, however expedient they might be, to one commissioner than to the rest, or to make one more responsible to government for the acts of the board than the others. And if it were possible, I must submit it to his Excellency, with great deference, whether it would be advisable to do it without a previous communication of the plan to Parliament, which has already shewn mich jealousy upon this subject, a subject which has likewise given occasion to much clamor without doors.- I am, etc. [E. S. PERY.]”

10.—LORD LUCAN to Pery., “ 1780, 3 October.-I make no doubt but that you have heard the particulars of Lord B[uckingham's] arrangements, which have been nilled here, that he desired that Flood might be dismissed and his employment given to Lord Shannon, that the Provost? and his son should be both displaced, etc. etc. He was answered that it was now too late, and that it would now only create opposition to Lord Carlisle, and that he, Lord B[uckingham), should have proposed these changes when measures required to be supported. His peerages have also, as it is said, been postponed. I have also heard that he has mentioned you as being adverse to English government, which surprises me. I have heard that you have wrote to Lord Carlisle, and I imagine that it is to set right any misrepresentation of your way of thinking and of acting in regard to England. For the future, I hear that Lord Justices are to be revived, as Lord Carlisle will not consent to remain an exile in Ireland for four years, and it is found so difficult to persuade men of consequence to accept of the government of Ireland on such hard conditions.

Thu church, the sword, and the law, are to govern in the absence of the Lord Lieutenant, as Irishmen, can never be trusted with so important a charge.

"John Hely Hutchinson, Provost of Trinity College, Dublin, M.P. for city of Cork, a privy councillor, and principal secretary of state, Ireland.


I now write by desire of a friend who is very anxious on the subject. Fosterl is making great way with this new government. He is pressing to be Chancellor of the Exchequer, and may probably succeed. The present Chancellor of Exchequerwishes much that Lord Shannon should have it, as the Muster Office made up is the thing of all others he prefers, and he wishes that Lord Shannon could be prevailed upon to ask it, and has no doubt but he may obtain it, as there is a great disposition in this government to oblige Hamilton. If Lord Shannon will apply for it, Hamilton will assist him, but if you cannot prevail upon him to ask it, he wishes him to write to this effect, that if the office of Chancellor of the Exchequer is to be brought back to Ireland, that he hopes he shall not be forgot.

“I now return to my chit-chat. I find Lord Loughborough is a friend of yours. I know it accidentally, and I think you should know your friends. Lord North was very ill last night, and was blooded three times, but is better this day. If he had tripped, it woull bave made a fine bustle. Lord Pomfret, whom you knew, is mad, has challenged the Duke of Grafton to fight him, because the Duke when in .... preferred a man in Suffolk in the revenue, who has lately disobliged Lord Pomfret. The letters on the occasion are mad and extraordinary. He says he is determined to kill his grace, as this man intends to kill him and has attempted to kill his son by driving nails into his hand. The Duke of Grafton (goes] about armed, and Pomfret cannot be found. The courts of justice have issued warrants against him, and I believe the House of Lords have taken it up, but liow I cannot tell. Vesey3 is recovered ... Foster is at his place, Sir T. Burgh also, and Vesey has agreed to his offer, if he can get it done, that he, Vesey, should enjoy all the profits neat while he lives and that he should either resign or let Burgh into the patent, whichever of the two Foster shall choose or be able to get done.”—LUCAN.

11.-EARL OF CARLISLE to PERY. “1780, Nov. 6th. London.--I am to inform you that I have his Majesty's commands to repair to Ireland early in the next month as his Lord Lieutenant of that kingdom, and I take this occasion to assure you that I am extremely eager to obtain and deserve your fair opinion and support in the difficult situation in which his majesty has been pleased to fix me. I have the honour to be, your most obedient, most humble servant, CARLISLE.”


- 1780, 8th of Nov. Hanover Square.—I have had the pleasure of receiving your letter, and you may be assured that you shall not want any assistance which I can give you. I have only to lament that it lies in a very narrow compass on the present occasion, and can, I fear, be of but very little use, without you enable me to answer satisfactorily some questions which will most certainly be asked by those who alone can procure the bishoprick for your brother. If you shall think fit to authorize me to give explicit assurance that you and your brother may be depended on as the sincere and steady friends of administration, I cannot but entertain great hope of succeeding in my application, and, without it, I much

i John Foster, M.P. for Louth, and a privy councillor, Ireland.
2 William Gerard IIamilton.

3 Agmondisbam Veses, M.P. for Kinsale, privy councillor, controller and accountant-general, Ireland.

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doubt whether my interference will answer the purpose. Judge therefore and determine for yourself, but do not lose a moment in conveying your thoughts to me on this subject, in such terms as you think fit. I will obey your commands, and execute them to the best of my abilities, of which I am sure you entertain no doubt. Be expeditious, for I mean to leave this place in the course of this month.--I am, my dear sir, most sincerely and affectionately yours, C. Cashel.”

13.—Rigbyl to Pery. “1780, Dec. 2nd. Pay Office (London).-I should much sooner have acknowledged the receipt of your letter from Limerick, inclosing one to Lord Carlisle, if I had not imagined he would have taken some opportunity of saying something to me upon that part of its contents which relates to your brother. I received your letter the beginning of last month, as I was setting out for Mistley for three or four days, which was my apology for sending instead of carrying it to him. I saw him about a week afterwards at court, when he acknowledged having received it, and said something to the purpose of being desirous to oblige your brother, but that the present vacant bishopricks were to be or were disposed of by Lord Buckingham, I am not certain which ; but that he would call upon me and have some discourse with me concerning the affairs of Ireland, if I would give him leave-a great deal of honour and so forth was necessary to pass on my part. From that time to this, except, I believe, one day across the drawing-room, I have never set eyes on him, and I can no longer submit to your thinking that I should neglect you or your commands as far as lay in my power. The truth is, I have little or no acquaintance with this young lord, and less with his secretary; and that is the best reason, only for private people and particular favours to individuals I have no pretence to solicit. They will find out themselves the Speaker, and your brother will be a bishop. He and you may depend upon it. I heartily wish that this and every other agreeable circumstance may happen to you, and professing myself as much as ever a sincere well-wisher to Ireland, I cannot help adding my earnest desire that such good sense as you possess may be employed with moderation and temper in the present most alarming and critical situation of the two kingdoms.-I am, my dear sir, etc. RICHARD Rigby.”

14.-DUKE OF LEINSTER to Pery. 1780, Dec. 21st. Carton.--I hope you will excuse my troubling you, but the only apology I have to make is your goodness to me on all occasions, which emboldens me to ask a favour, which if it should in any way interfere in accommodating any friend of yours, I should by no means wish you to subject yourself to any inconvenience on my account. As Dean Pery is to be on the bench, perhaps you have not engaged the chaplaincy of the House of Commons. If not, you would greatly oblige me if you would appoint Mr. John Foster, who is a very particular friend of mine, and who wishes much to have the honor of attending the House of Commons. I must again repeat that I do not wish to put you to any inconvenience, though it would be conferring a lasting obligation on, dear sir, your most affectionate friend and huinble servant, LEINSTER.”

Right Hon. Richard Rigby, Keeper of the Rolls of Chancery in Ireland, 1760



15.-LORD MACARTNEY1 to Pery. “ 1781, January 24. Tarbert.2—I cannot possibly leave this part of the world, without thanking you, which I do most sincerely, for your letter to the Dean, from whom and his most amiable daughter, I have met the kindest hospitality and obliging attention. I do assure you I never passed any time of my life more agreeably than that which I spent with them at Newton Pery 3 I beg you will be so good as to present my best compliments to Mrs. Pery. ... I am now at Tarbert at Mr. Leslie's, waiting for the packet to fall down. We expect her every moment, and shall probably embark this evening. Wherever I am, I shall always remember your friendship to me with particular pleasure, being with every sentiment of esteem and regard, my dear sir, ever most sincerely yours, MACARTNEY.”

16.—WILLIAM EDEN* to Pery. 61781, May 16th. Dublin Castle. I wish that I could send you a packet of good tidings, but the “Gazette” which I forwarded to you last night contained little more than you already know, and I have not since received anything worth repeating.

People seem to be alarmed to the southward of your neighbourhood, but I hope and believe that there is more vivacity than reason in . their fears, and that, excepting the calamity which has probably reached a part of Hotham's convoy, and which was a natural incident of war, the French ships will not do us much mischief before Derby's [Darby] flect returns to the protection of these kingdoms.

I am very much obliged to you for the kind and salutary attention which you have bestowed on my brother's interests in the Chevalier de Lucerne.

I have written to the Admiralty of England recommending Captain Bell to the indulgence which he desires. I am not, however, confident of receiving an early answer. In the meantime, if Captain Bell will give his honour, in writing, either to obtain the return of some other sbip-master, or to return within three months to Ireland, I have no objection (if it is practicable) to his proceeding in whatever manner he may find most convenient.

The agent at Kinsale denies having any concern with American prisoners; which defect must be remedied.

I fear that my exertions for Serjeant will not be so far successful as to get him the expected lieutenancy in Captain Cole's company. The War Office in England is restrained by their own recent precedents: if he is disappointed, my Lord Lieutenant will give him an ensigncy in an old regiment here. Excuse this scrawl, and believe me, etc., W. Eden.”

17.-LORD SACKVILLE to Pery. “ 1782, Feb. 19th. Pall Mall.-I am always ... in hearing from you, and every mark of your attention and friendship is most flattering to me. I am happily released from a most disagreeable situation, but I should not have quitted it, without the most avowed approbation of the King. He could not show it in a stronger light than by the honors he conferred on me, without any solicitation on my part.

In the county of Limerick.
? lu Kerry.
• For account of Lord Macartney, see Ninth Report, 1884, Part ii. p. 330.

+ Chief Secretary to Earl of Carlisle, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. Eden was created Lord Auckland in 1790.

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