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THE CRISIS IN PASSENGER TRAIN SERVICE

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE
UNITED STATES SENATE

EIGHTY-NINTH CONGRESS

NES

FIRST SESSION

ON

S. 325
A BILL TO AMEND THE INTERSTATE COMMERCE ACT, AS AMENDED,
TO AUTHORIZE THE INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION TO ASSIST
COMMON CARRIERS OF PASSENGERS BY RAILROAD IN PRESERVING
AND IMPROVING ESSENTIAL PASSENGER TRAIN SERVICES AND FACILI-

TIES, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

S. 348
A BILL TO ENCOURAGE THE PRESERVATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF A
MODERN AND EFFICIENT PASSENGER RAIL TRANSPORTATION SERV-
ICE IN THE NORTHEASTERN SEABOARD AREA BY GRANTING THE CON-
SENT AND APPROVAL OF CONGRESS TO THE STATES OF MASSACHU-
SETTS, RHODE ISLAND, CONNECTICUT, AND NEW YORK TO NEGOTIATE
AND ENTER INTO A COMPACT TO CREATE THEIR OWN NORTHEAST RAIL
AUTHORITY, AND BY GUARANTEEING CERTAIN LOANS AND OTHER

CREDIT TO SUCH AUTHORITY

S. 1234
A BILL TO ENCOURAGE THE PRESERVATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF A
MODERN AND EFFICIENT PASSENGER RAIL TRANSPORTATION SERVICE
IN THE NORTHEASTERN SEABOARD AREA BY GRANTING THE CONSENT

ND APPROVAL OF CONGRESS TO THE STATES OF NEW YORK AND
CONNECTICUT TO NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO A COMPACT TO CREATE
THEIR OWN NEW YORK-CONNECTICUT RAIL AUTHORITY, AND BY GUAR-
ANTEEING CERTAIN BONDS OF, AND FURNISHING CERTAIN ASSIST-

ANCE TO, SUCH AUTHORITY

S. 1289
A BILL TO AMEND THE INTERSTATE COMMERCE ACT, AS AMENDED, TO
AUTHORIZE THE INTERSTATE COMMERCE COMMISSION TO ASSIST
.COMMON CARRIERS OF PASSENGERS BY RAILROAD IN PRESERVING
AND IMPROVING ESSENTIAL PASSENGER TRAIN SERVICES AND FACILI-

TIES, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

MARCH 2, 3, 4, 10, 1965
MARCH 11, 1965 (NEW HAVEN)

STANFOD

VERSITY

1965

Serial No. 89-11

JUN
Printed for the use of the Committee on Commerce

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

DOCUM

DIVISH

WASHINGTON : 1965

46-135

ENT

COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE

WARREN G. MAGNUSON, Washington, Chairman JOHN O. PASTORE, Rhode Island

NORRIS COTTON, New Hampshire A. S. MIKE MONRONEY, Oklahoma

THRUSTON B. MORTON, Kentucky FRANK J. LAUSCHE, Ohio

HUGH SCOTT, Pennsylvania E. L. BARTLETT, Alaska

WINSTON L. PROUTY, Vermont VANCE HARTKE, Indiana

JAMES B. PEARSON, Kansas GALE W. MCGEE, Wyoming

PETER H. DOMINICK, Colorado PHILIP A. HART, Michigan HOWARD W. CANNON, Nevada DANIEL B. BREWSTER, Maryland MAURINE B. NEUBERGER, Oregon ROSS BASS, Tennessee

GERALD B. GRINSTEIN, Chief Counsel

EDWARD JARRETT, Chief Clerk
JEREMIAH J. KENNEY, Jr., A88istant Chief Oounsel

RALPH W. HORTON, A88istant Chief Clerk
JOSEPH R. FOGARTY and STANTON P. SENDER, Staf Oounsel

CONTENTS

Pago

Text and analysis of S. 325. -----

Text and analysis of S. 348------

Text and analysis of S. 1234, and amendment thereto.

Text and analysis of S. 1289.-

Agency reports:

S. 325:

Bureau of the Budget, dated March 10, 1965...

Comptroller General of the United States, dated March 3, 1965..

Department of Defense, dated March 10, 1965.

Department of the Treasury, dated March 3, 1965.---

S. 348:

Bureau of the Budget, dated March 10, 1965.---

Comptroller General of the United States, dated February 23,

1965---------------------------------

Department of the Treasury, dated March 3, 1965 and March 10,

1965---

S. 1234:

Comptroller General of the United States, dated March 3, 1965

and March 11, 1965.-----

Department of the Treasury, dated March 3, 1965.--

Interstate Commerce Commission, dated March 18, 1965---

S. 1289:

Department of the Treasury, dąted March 3, 1965...

Interstate Commerce Commission, dated March 17, 1965.-----

Statement of —

Bassett, Harold, president, Connecticut Taxpayers Association,

Bridgeport, Conn.---.

Beebe, William A., State representative, State Labor Council, AFL-

CIO, New Haven, Conn...

Bixler, Herbert E., vice president, Systems Analysis & Research

Corp., Cambridge, Mass --------

Bober, Joseph, secretary-treasurer, Connecticut State Labor Council,

AFL-CIO, Hamden, Conn., on behalf of John J. Driscoll, president..

Bradford, Amory, Regional Plan Association, New York, NY-------

Browning, L. L., traffic manager, Trailways of New England, Inc.,

Washington, D.C.------

Caverly, Gardner, executive vice president, New England Council,

Washington, D.C...

Chafee, Hon. John H., Governor, State of Rhode Island, State House,

Providence, R.I.-----

Christensen, Tom, general chairman, Association of the New Haven

Railroad, Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen, AFL-CIO, New Haven,

Conn.-------

Congdon, Howard S., traffic manager, Grinnell Co., Cranston, R.I.----

Dempsey, Hon. John N., Governor, State of Connecticut, Hartford,

Conn.----

Dodd, Hon. Thomas J., U.S. Senator from the State of Connecticut,

Senate Office Building, Washington, D.C.-----

Giaimo, Hon. Robert N., U.S. Representative from the State of

Connecticut, House Office Building, Washington, D.C.--

Hickey, Hon. William, member, Connecticut State Senate, Stamford,

Conn.--

Irwin, Hon. Donald J., U.S. Representative from the State of Con-

necticut, 1023 Longworth Building, Washington, D.C.----

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Statement of-Continued

Javits, Hon. Jacob K., U.S. Senator from the State of New York,

Senate Office Building, Washington, D.C..

Kennedy, Hon. Edward M., U.S. Senator from the Commonwealth of

Massachusetts, Senate Office Building, Washington, D.C.

Kennedy, Hon. Robert F., U.S. Senator from the State of New York,

Senate Office Building, Washington, D.C.---

Kirk, William J., trustee, New York, New Haven & Hartford Rail-

road Co., Newtonville, Mass.---

Klein, Nathan M., Sea Cliff, Long Island, NY

Kohl, John C., Assistant Administrator (Transportation), Housing and

Home Finance Agency, Washington, D.C.; accompanied by Richard

Bryant, Office of the General Counsel. ----

int, Once of the General Counsel.-------------------------

Lee, Hon. Richard C., mayor, city of New Haven, Conn...

Martin, Hon. Clarence D., Under Secretary of Commerce for Trans-

portation, Department of Commerce, Washington, D.C--------

Michaelian, Hon. Edward G., county executive of Westchester County,

County Office Building, White Plains, N.Y-------

Padula, Hon. Louis J., member, Connecticut House of Representatives,

Norwalk, Conn.-------

Pell, Hon. Claiborne, U.S. Senator from the State of Rhode Island,

Senate Office Building, Washington, D.C-.

Reid, Maurice W., president, Connecticut State Chamber of Com-

mérce, Hartford, Conn.---

Reid, Hon. Ogden R., U.S. Representative from the State of New

York, House Office Building, Washington, D.C..

Reinhold, Frank M., chairman, Connecticut Transportation Author-

ity, Watertown, Conn.--

Riani, Arthur H., Rhode Island AFL-CIO, Cranston, R.I.--

Ribicoff, Hon. Abraham, U.S. Senator from the State of Connecticut,

Senate Office Building, Washington, D.C.--.

Rockefeller, Hon. Nelson A., Governor, State of New York, Albany,

N.Y.; accompanied by Dr. William J. Ronan, secretary to the

Governor; Walter J. Myskowski, special consultant to the attorney

general of the State of New York; and Bayard S. Forster, director,

New York State Office of Transportation.---

Rood, Armistead B., director, Boston & Providence Railroad Corp.,

Washington, D.C..

---

Rosan, Richard A., United Communities for Railroad Action, Stam-

ford, Conn.------
Sage, George M., president, the Short Line Inc., Providence, R.I.---
Saltonstall, Hon. Leverett, U.S. Senator from the Commonwealth of

Massachusetts, Senate Office Building, Washington, D.C..
Schamus, Sanford L., New York, N.Y.-----
Schiff, Irwin A., New Haven, Conn.---
Smith, Richard J., trustee, the New York, New Haven & Hartford

Railroad Co., New Haven, Conn.; accompanied by William J.
Kirk, trustee; Harry W. Dorigan, trustee; Robert W. Blanchette,
general counsel; James W. Moore, counsel for trustees; Joseph
Auerbach, special counsel for trustees; and Hollis Coyle,

comptroller -----
Volpe, Hon. John A., Governor, Commonwealth of Massachusetts,

State House, Boston, Mass..--.
Webb, Hon. Charles A., Chairman, Interstate Commerce Commission,

Washington, D.C.; accompanied by Kenneth H. Tuggle, Chairman,
Division 3; Matthew Paolo, Director, Bureau of Accounts; Thaddeus
W. Forbes, Director, Bureau of Finance; and Edward Margolin,

Director, Bureau of Transport Economics and Statistics----

Zellers, John B., assistant vice president, Peoples Savings Bank,

Bridgeport, Conn.----

Zimmerman, 'Prof. Frederick A., Hunter College, New York, N.Y., on

behalf of Senator Max Berking of the New York State Senate ----
Statements submitted by-

Beattie, Donald S., executive secretary, Railway Labor Executives'

association, NW., Washington, D.C ---

Burke, Hon. James A., U.S. Representative from the Commonwealth

of Massachusetts, House Office Building, Washington, D.C.------

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Statements submitted by-Continued

Fogarty, Hon. John E., U.S. Representative from the State of Rhode

Island, House Office Building, Washington, D.C.------
Irwin, Hon. Donald J., U.S. Representative from the State of Con-

necticut, Longworth Office Building, Washington, D.C.----------
National Association of Motor Bus Owners, Washington, D.C.--
Nelson, Prof. James R., Amherst College, Amherst, Mass.-------
Peabody, Endicott, Roche & Leen, Boston, Mass.-----
St Germain, Hon. Fernand, U.S. Representative from the State of

Rhode Island, House Office Building, Washington, D.C.
Letters received from-

Dorigan, H. W., New Haven, Conn. to Senator Pastore, dated March

17, 1963.
Dorigan, H. W., New Haven, Conn., to Senator Pastore, dated March

23, 1965.-
Dorigan, H. W., New Haven, Conn., to Senator Pastore, dated March

31, 1965--
Hutchinson, Hon. Everett, Commissioner, Interstate Commerce Com-

mission, Washington, D.C., to Senator Smathers, dated September

6, 1961.---
Moore, James Wm., New Haven, Conn. to Senator Pastore, dated

March 23, 1965.-
Nugent, Hon., J. Joseph, attorney general, State of Rhode Island,

Providence, R.I., to Governor Chafee, dated March 22, 1965. ----
Webb, Hon. Charles A., Chairman, Interstate Commerce Commission,

Washington, D.C., to Senator Magnuson, dated March 9, 1965.--
Miscellaneous information submitted-

Article entitled “Who Will Save the New Haven?”' by Senator Clai-

borne Pell, February 22, 1965, issue of the Nation magazine.-----
Exhibits to statement of William J. Kirk, trustee, New York, New

Haven & Hartford Railroad Co.---
Extracts from constitutions of Massachusetts, New York, and Rhode

Island -
Memorandum from the Library of Congress to Senate Commerce

Committee, dated March 1, 1965.--
Memorandum of Decision Re Petition for Order No. 287 by the U.S.

District Court, District of Connecticut.
Memorandum concerning airline subsidy, H. H. Coyle, New

Haven, Conn----
Supplemental exhibits furnished by the New York, New Haven and

Hartford Railroad Company---
Table: Class I Line-Haul Railroads Conducting Passengers Service by

District and Individual Roads, Year 1963.--
Telegram from Senator Dodd to Senator Pastore, dated March 11, 1965.

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