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You went into the house for the purpose of I turned; then I went down the west side of giving assistance ?-I did. I have a house the square, and went home. near lord Mansfield's.
Do you know that fellow Ingram! I do Were you upon the steps, or in the street not. about the house between one and two ?-I You say you saw Mr. Maskall walk up was in the street at that time.
Russell-street 40 or 50 yards ?-I did, and he Did you see Mr. Maskall there!—I did not. told me he had staid till he was cold, so help
Did you see the mob in general ?-_Yes, me God. and several people whom I recollect that were
Cross-Examination. very active in the business.
If Mr. Maskall had been there, and been What time was this?-Between two and active, do you think you should have seen three o'clock. him ?-Undoubtedly I should, and must have How near to three? -I do not believe it known him, from the number of years I have was quite three; it was at the breaking of known him. I left the place just before the the day. I did not look at my watch. soldiers fired upon the mob.
I am desired to ask you whether you saw William Mace sworn.
any one join Mr. Maskall as he walked down
Great Russell-street ?-No, nobody; nor was What are you?--A carpenter.
there any body with him when I saw him. Do you happen to know Mr. Maskall?--I have known him about three years.
George Richardson sworn. : Were you at any time at lord Mansfield's Where do you live?-In Bloomsbury. house? --I was, about twelve o'clock.
Whereabouts ?-In Swan-passage. You were there quite at the beginning ?-I What are you?-A coach-carver. was.
Did you happen to be in Bloomsbury-square How long did you stay there ?-Till near
at the time of the riot? I was. three in the morning.
At what time did you first go there?-I beCan you recollect where you were, between lieve between twelve and one. I was there one and two o'clock ?-Standing at the end before the door was broke open. of the duke of Bedford's wall, at the watch- When did you first see Mr. Maskall ?-I box, almost opposite lord Mansfield's house. did not see him at all.
For how long a time were you on that spot? Where were you?-_I assisted one of my -I believe I might be there till two o'clock. lord's servants in getting some of his things
During that time had you your eye towards out of the house. lord Mansfield's door?-1 had.
Were you in the house during the time of During that time did you see Mr. Maskall? the riot?-Several times. -I did not.
Did you observe any of the mob carrying Mr. Maskall having been known to you any of the things out of the house - I did. for three years, if he had been before the Do you know Mr. Maskall ?-I do. door was it likely or probable that you should You know his person perfectly well ?-I do. have seen him ? Yes, if he had been before If Mr. Maskall was encouraging or doing the door or upon the steps I must have seen any acts to abet the mob, do you think you him.
should have seen him? I must have seen Did you see any people upon the steps ?- him. Yes, I might tell 20, and they were chiefly Did you see any parchments or books boys.
burnt ?-I remember a vast number of diffeAnd you are clear you never saw Mr. Mas- rent articles set on fire. I do not remember kall during that time?-I did not.
in particular any books. Did you see any books and parchments Do you remember any particular observabrought out of the house to be burnt ?-I did tion you made between one and two ?~I was not take any particular notice of what the there till between four and five in the mornthings were which were brought out; a great ing. many things were brought out.
Then you did not see Mr. Maskall do any When you were going towards home did one thing? ---I did not see him at all. you see Mr. Maskall ?-I went up to the side If he had been upon the steps as you passed of the duke of Bedford's wall, and went to the house, must not you have seen him ?.I wards the west side of the square, and at the am confident, if he had been there, I must end of Great Russell-street, that leads into have seen him. the square, there I saw Mr. Maskall stand
Cross-Eramination. by himself; some new buildings have been * erected there ; he stood up close to the build- Were you carrying things out at the same ings, that was the first time I saw him; ! time that the mob was carrying things out? asked him how he did? He said, “ He had -Yes.
staid about the square till he was cold, and Where did you carry them to fly I went up : He was going home to bed.” He bid me good the area stairs with the servant Grove. might; I bid him the same. I saw him go That is a different flight of stairs from that up the street, I believe forty yards before me. which the mob went up? Yes.
It comes into the street ? -Yes.
receive credit upon his oath.-A. I would Then you must have seen people that were not believe him upon his oath. upon the steps ? --Yes, I went in that 'way myself.
Where do you live?-At Richmond.
Where did you live before?--At KensingDo you remember seeing Mr. Maskall on ton. the Tuesday night?-Yes.
You are the clergyman perhaps of that paWhere did you see him?-Between New- rish?—Not of that parish, I live there. man-street and Berners-street, near his own What, do you keep a school there ?-No. house.
You have no connection with the parish? At what hour?-Between twelve and one; | -None. I asked him whether he was going to see the You have no particular connection with tire? He said, “ Yes, he heard lord Mans- Mr. Ingram, perhaps ?-No, not now. field's house was attempted, but he hoped in You can only speak to the general characGod Almighty that it was not true.”
ter of a person here; is it your meaning, that Had you any further conversation with let him swear what he may, you would not him ?-No, he bid me good night, and went believe him upon his oath -I mean so. away.
Have you any connection with any parish, Rev. Mr. Thomas Fisher sworn.
or any parochial duty ? -Yes, at Malden, near
Kingston. Are you so fortunate as to know Mr. In- Are you a vicar or curate ?-A curate. gram?-I am.
To whom?-Mr. Bean of Malden.
William Richardson sworn.
What are you?-A printer.
gram --I have some slight knowledge of Have you any reason to know any thing of him; I cannot speak any thing respecting his character? - Yes.
him particularly of my own knowledge, I can Is he to be confided in?—People think trom general report. there is a hazard in that, and I think so. Do you know any thing of his general cha
What do you mean by there being a ha- racter?-His general character is that of an zard ?—Because he might deceive them per- abominable liar. haps.
Do you know any thing more of him?I am asking you a general question; what I have been in several companies where he was his character in the neighbourhood where has been mentioned, and whenever his name you and he lived ?-As a man who would was mentioned, he was generally known by take people in, as they call it, if they had any the appellation of Lying Dick; he was as dealings with him.
well known by that appellation as Richard Court. It is a plain question you are ask. Ingram. ed; you reason about it, instead of giving an From the knowledge you have of the geanswer ; you say he might deceive, to be sure neral character he bears, is he a man that he might, so might any body; your answer you would believe upon his oath ?-Upon my must be more decisive.
oath, I would not believe him upon his oath. Counsel for the Prisoner. Was he a man
William Price sworn. that was believed as well as his neighbours? -A. No.
Do you know any thing of this Richard Would you believe him as far as your other Ingram :-I know him very well. neighbours ? —No, far from it; perhaps he What are you?-An attorney. might not always deceive me.
What character does he bear_There is a Court. Would you believe him upon his diversity of opinions respecting him; some oath? That is the question which is always give him a good character, and some a very asked when you impeach a man's testimony; indifferent one. do you think he is to be believed upon his Which is the most prevalent of the two ?oath ?-A. He is the last man I know that I I hear that he is a most notorious liar. would believe, even upon his oath.
What is his most general character?-I Then you mean to say that you would not have heard that character of him, that he is believe him?
He is the last man that I would believe.
Is the opinion more general of his being a Court. That imports that you would be liar than otherwise ?-I have heard them lieve him. You know he has been called that know him a good deal say so. here to give his testimony, which testimony Have you had any conversation with Mr. he has given upon his oath; you are called Ingram relative to this business -I have ; upon your oath to discredit his veracity, and I happened to be at the London coffee house; to say, that he, in your belief, ought not to I think I turned in for the purpose of reading
the dispatches that were received from sir ral character has been, that he is a man raHenry Clinton ; I think it was on the 16th, ther that would romance. though I will not be particular to the day; Is that his general character? - Yes, it is. : whilst I was there Dr. Ingram came in, and Is he a man that you would believe now after some little conversation, he said lord upon his oath ?-No, I would not. Mansfield writes a very plain hand, or a good Upon your oath you would not?-Upon my hand, words to that import; he then had oath I would not. some letters in his hand ; upon which he de- And you have known him thirteen or four-' livered me over a note from lord Mansfield, teen years ?-Yes, or thereabouts. as he said. He asked me if I knew lord Mansfield's hand ? I said I had been in possession
Cross-Examination. of his name, and I believed that to be his lordship's hand-writing; it was a compli
What do you think he would romance mentary card from lord Mansfield to him; upon his oath–I cannot say about that any I think lord Mansfield was then sitting at
more than what hearsay is. Guildhall; the import of the card I do not
He is called a man given to romance!
Yes, much so. remember particularly, but I think it was, “Lord Mansfield sends compliments to Dr. In
George Furnace sworn. gram, he is much obliged for some information, and probably he might hear from him;" Do you know Richard Ingram?-I do. something of that import. He also produced What are you ?-A publican. another letter, which he said was the hand- How long have you known him ?- These writing of lord Stormont; and further he said three years. he had breakfasted that morning with lord
What is his character?-He lodged and Stormont, or was to breakfast with him. I boarded with me all last winter from August then congratulated him on having an inter- till March. view with such great personages. I told him
What do you know of his character?-I that I hoped he would be provided for; in know he eat and drank my property, and did answer to which he said he was provided for. not pay me any thing. My curiosity did not lead me to inspect the
What is his general character?-Not to letters he said he received from lord Stor- pay any debts he contracts. mont.
Court. You are not called here to speak to What passed else?—That is all I know of any particular parts of his conduct, or to any the business.
other part of his character, but that of veraWhat did you understand from Mr. Ingram, city. What is his character with respect to when he said he was provided for ?-I under- veracity?--A. He gave me a note here for stood he was provided for in the way of his payment of money. profession. I have not the least idea of the Court. You were told you was called here circumstances.
only to speak to his veracity? --A. He told me Did he say any thing more than you have a great many falsehoods, that he had somementioned ?-Not a syllable more.
thing to receive at the War-office; when I Would you believe Mr. Ingram upon his came to examine, he had nothing: oath?-I would believe him as soon as any
Do you think him a man to be believed ? man in the kingelom upon his oath; I have
-No, I do not, he has told me so many falseindeed heard the character of him which I hoods, mentioned, but I would believe him.
Is he a man you would believe upon any Counsel for the Crown. Mr. Ingram, I wish occasion ?--No, I would not, he has deceived you would explain this conversation about the me so often. note you had from lord Mansfield.
Is he a man that you would believe upon Ingram. Here is a letter I received from his oath ?-No, he has deceived me upon his lord Mansfield, in consequence of a letter I word so often, that I would not believe him wrote to his lordship.
upon his oath. Relative to this subject was it ?-I wrote a long letter on the Thursday.
Atkinson Bush, esq. sworn. Is that the letter you wrote to lord Mans- What evidence, Sir, are you come to give? field, in consequence of which you received -Between the prisoner and Mr Ingram, rethat note in answer?- It is. “ Lord Mansfield specting his veracity. sends his compliments to Mr. Ingram, and Did you know any thing of his credit ?-I returns him many thanks for his letter, he know nothing of his credit, but much of his will probably hear of it.”
Where do you live?-In Great OrmondRichard Shearsmith sworn.
street. I have known him 30 years.
During that time has he been a man of a What are you?-A perriwig-maker. fair and good character, or not ?-When I
How long have you known Mr. Ingram? - went to school with him he was known by Thirteen or fourteen years.
the same appellation by which he has now What is his general character:-His gene- been described, that of Lying Dick.
Has he deserved that name from his in- would be made upon my character; every fancy even until now ?- From the time I circumstance of my life, from my krst setting have known him, from the general character out, I have put down the general heads of he bears, he has.
and some general officers, the first officers in You think he still deserves that appell'a- the army, have promised to be here, because tion ?- That was his character at school, and I was told that such an attack would be made from that character I have never been inti- upon my character, and that my debts and mate with him since; that is the character misfortunes in the world would come out in he has now at the coffee-house I frequent, court. I appeal if I did not inake the remark the Ormond-street coffee-house.
myself, and desire that such an appeal might One of the Jury. Pray, Sir, what are you? be made to gentlemen, as to my character. -A, I believe one among the jury can inform the rest.
[Several witnesses were called, none of
whom appeared.) Is he a man that you would believe upon his oath ?-No, I say so upon my oath, and I Counsel for the Prisoner. Mr. Maskall believe the Solicitor General, and many more opened in his defence, that he would call here, will believe me upon my oath.
some witnesses to his character; if he will Ingram. I am in a disagreeable situation, be determined by me, I think it quite unnemy character has been attacked here; there cessary. is not a debt I owe which I have not written
Verdict, Not Guilty. down, and have not delivered in to the solicitor in this cause, knowing such an attack Tried before the Lord Chief Baron Skynner.
564. The Trial * of Francis HENRY DE LA MOTTE, for High
Treason : Before the Right Hon. Sir Watkin Lewes, knt. Lord Mayor of the City of London ; the Hon. Francis Buller, esq. one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of King's-Bench; the Hon. John Heath, esq. one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; James Adair, Serjeant at Law, Recorder ; and others his Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer of the City of London, and Justices of Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City and County of Middlesex; July 14: 21 GEORGE III. A. D. 1781.
“ Middleser. BE it remembered, That at prisions of treason, insurrections, rebellions, the general session of Oyer and Terminer of counterfeitings, clippings, washings, false our lord the king, holden for the county of coinings, and other falsities of the money of Middlesex, at Hicks's-hall in St. John's-street Great Britain and other kingdoms, or domiin the said county, on Tuesday the 24th day nions whatsoever ; and all murthers, felonies, of April, in the 21st year of the reign of our manslaughters, killings, burglaries, rapes of sovereign lord George the 3rd, king of Great women, unlawful meetings, conventicles, .unBritain, &c. before William Mainwaring, esq. lawful uttering of words, assemblies, inisprithe rev. sir George Booth, bt. George Mercer, sions, confederacies, false allegations, tresDavid Walker, esqrs
. and others their fellows, passes, riots, routs, retentions, escapes, conjustices of our said lord the king, assigned by tempts, falsities, negligences, concealments
, his majesty's letters patent under the great maintenances, oppressions, champarties, deseal of Great Britain, directed to the same ceits, and all other evil doings, offences, and justices before named, and others in the said injuries whatsoever, and also the accessaries letters named, to enquire more fully the truth of them, within the county aforesaid (as well by the oath of good and lawful men of the within liberties as without) by whomşqever said county of Middlesex, and by other ways, and in what manner soever done, committed, means, and methods, by which they shall or
or perpetrated, and by whom or to whom, may better know (as well within liberties as when, how, and after what manner; and of without) by whom the truth of the matter all other articles and circumstances concern-, may be better known, of all treasons, mis- ing the premises, and every of them or any
them in any manner whatsoever ; and the * Taken in Short-hand by Joseph Gurney, said treasons, and other the premises, to hear and delermine according to the laws and cus- | the said Francis Henry De la Motte, as such toms of England, by the oath of John Tilney, false traitor, during the war aforesaid, to wit, Miles Dent, John Thomas, John Dawson, on the said 11th day of January, in the 20th James Smith, Richard Snow, Joseph Cary, year atoresaid, at the parish aforesaid, in the John Tayler, John Clark, Thomas M'Carty, county of Middlesex aforesaid, falsely, wickIsaac Watson, William Cock, Richard Sta- edly, and traitorously, did compose and write, pleton, Timothy Tomlins, and Joseph Mus- and cause to be composed and wrote, divers kett, good and lawful men of the county afore letters and instructions in writing, to shew. said, now here sworn and charged to inquire and inform the said French king and his subfor our said lord the king for the body of the jects, then and yet enemies of our said presame county. It is presented in manner and sent sovereign lord the king, of the state, form following (that is to say):
condition, and force, of several of the ships of “ Middlesex. The jurors for our sovereign war of our said lord the king, and the numlord the king, upon their oath, present, that ber of the ships and forces of our said lord an open and public war, on the 11th day of the king, then and there designed and preJanuary, in the 20th year of the reign of our pared for the defence of this kingdom, and sovereign lord George the 3rd, by the grace the enemies of the said kingdom to attack, of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, repel, and resist; and how some of the ships king, defender of the faith, and so forth, and of war of our said lord the king were manned, long before and ever since hitherto by land and for what time divers ships of war of our and by sea was, and yet is carried on and said lord the king were furnished with proprosecuted by Lewis the French king against visions, and of the stations of divers squadrons our most serene, illustrious, and excellent of ships of war of our said lord the king, emprince, our said lord the now king; and that ployed in prosecuting and carrying on the said one Francis Henry De la Motte, late of the war; and the names of the commanders of parish of St. George, Hanover-square, in the such squadrons, and the number and force of county of Middlesex, gentleman, a subject of the ships of war of which such squadrons conour said lord the king, of his kingdom of sisted; and also of the service in which diGreat Britain, well knowing the premises, vers other ships of war of our said lord the not having the fear of God in his heart, por king were then employed in prosecuting and weighing the duty of his allegiance, but being carrying on the said war; and also the nummoved and seduced by the instigation of the ber and force of the ships of war of our said devil, as a false traitor against our said most lord the king, within certain ports of this serene, illustrious, and excellent prince George kingdom, and of the state and condition of the 3rd, now king of Great Britain, and so several of the said ships; and of the numbers forth; and contriving, and with all his strength of the land forces of our said lord the king, in intending, the peace and common tranquillity this kingdom and the dominions thereunto of this kingdom of Great Britain to disquiet, belonging; and of the times of the sailing of molest, and disturb, and the government of divers ships of war of our said lord the king, our said present sovereign lord the king of and the destination of the said ships, and the this kingdom of Great Britain, to change, services in which such ships were employed; subvert, and alter; and our said lord the king and of the times when other ships of war of from the royal state, title, honour, power, im- our said lord the king were then expected to perial crown and government of this his king- sail from this kingdom, and the voyages, dom of Great Britain, to depose and deprive; cruizes, and services, upon which such ships and our said lord the present king to death were sailed; and also of the times when other and final destruction to bring and put, and the ships of war of our said lord the king, emfaithful subjects of our said lord the king, and ployed in the prosecution and carrying on of the freemen of this kingdom, to bring into the said war, were expected to arrive in this the most miserable servitude and slaveryunder kingdom ; and also ot'the times of the sailing the said French king; he, the said Francis of several ships and vessels belonging to diHenry De la Motte, on the said 11th day of vers subjects of our said lord the king, from January, in the said 20th year of the reign of this kingdom to the dominions of our said our said lord the king, and on divers other lord the king, and other places, in parts bedays and times, as well before as after that yond the seas; and also of the times when day, with force and arms, at the said parish other ships and vessels, belonging to divers of St. George, Hanover-square, in the said other subjects of our said lord the king, were county of Middlesex, falsely, wickedly, and expected to sail from this kingdom to the dotraitorously did compass, imagine, and intend minions of our said lord the king, and other our said present sovereign lord the king, of places, in parts beyond the seas; and also of and from the royal state, crown, title, power, the times when other ships and vessels, of and government of this realm of Great Britain, divers other subjects of our said lord the king, to depose and wholly deprive, and the same were expected to arrive in this kingdom from lord the king to kill, and bring and put to the dominions of our said lord the king, and death: and to fulfil, perfect, and bring to other places, beyond the seas: and that aftereffect, his said most evil and wicked treason, wards, and during the said war, to wit, on the compassings, and imaginations aforesaid, he said i1th day of January, in the 20th year VOL. XXI.