dioms qen temps nostre predecessour par temps passe
il fist collacion a mesme leglise, et issint au temps
qe le brief le Roi nous vint nous trovames leglise
pleine de la collacion nostre predecessour, par quei
nous ne poames resceivre soun clerk, et nentendoms
pas qe tort en nostre persone puissetz1 assigner.2-
Thorpe. A cella dire ne serretz resceu, qar nous
dioms qe autrefoith nous portames Quare impedit
vers Vous et autres de mesme leglise, a quel
temps vous venistes en Court et rienz ne deistes,
mes clamastes come Ordeigner, acceptant nostre title,
qe leglise fut voide come nous supposames par
counte, et adonqes avioms brief al Evesqe devers
vous, et demandoms jugement si dallegger la plenerte
par la manere la revers de quel autrefoith vous
acceptastes, si vous serretz resceu.-Moubray. Quant
le Quare impedit fut porte vers nous, et nous
navioms rienz en le patronage, ne nulle destourbance
avioms fait, nous ne poames par ley par autre
manere aver plede qe nous ne feismes 5; et quant
a ceo qe vous ditetz qe vostre title fut tenu nient
dedit et la voidaunce, il nest pas issi, qar
si xx.
portent severalment Quare impedit vers Ordeigner,
a chesqun de eux il ne dirra autre chose, quel
qils ount 8 dreit ou nient, mes clamereit come
Ordeigner, et sur cel desclamer en le patronage
chesqun de eux avera brief al Evesqe, et de ceo
piert il bien qil ne conust pas chesqun de eux estre
patroun; par quei rienz qe fut plede en le Quare
impedit ou dit par nous est a contrare 10 de ceo
qe nous dioms ore pur nous escuser.-Thorpe.
Vous fuissetz
resceu a tiel respons a
1 H., and C., puisse.
2 C., attacher.
3 H., Ordiner.
4 et is omitted from C.
* C., feimes.
such an answer, you would put me to plead my title in the Quare impedit, which is not permissible by law, particularly when you were yourself previously a party to the Quare impedit, and could then have pleaded or at least have made protestation so as to have saved your plea in the Quare non admisit; and since you did not do so you have lost the advantage. -WILLOUGHBY, ad idem. With regard to a matter of which the Bishop could have had knowledge at the time of the Quare impedit, such as plenarty, and which he did not then allege, it is not right that he should afterwards have the advantage of saying the reverse [of what was then said]; and the Ordinary could know as well of plenarty in the time of his predecessor as of plenarty in his own time; but it would be otherwise with regard to bastardy, excommunication, or other disability in the person of the presentee, which are matters that he could not know at the time when the Quare impedit was brought; therefore, even though he pleaded nothing as to Quare impedit except as Ordinary, he might afterwards, on a Quare non admisit, avow the refusal of the presentee by reason of such disability as that, notwithstanding the fact that he did not allege it in the Quare impedit; but therefore also it is not right, as it seems, to allege plenarty in this Quare non admisit.-Moubray. We take your records to witness that they refuse the averment.-Grene. If part of the period of six months elapsed in the time of his predecessor, and part in his own time, he will have the same advantage as if the whole period had elapsed in his own time, that is to say, the advantage of giving, as Ordinary, per lapsum temporis. Suppose then that the whole period of six months elapsed in the time of this Bishop, and that a Quare impedit had been brought against him after he had made collation, and he claimed nothing except as Ordinary, without
ore,1 vous moi mettretz de pleder moun title en le
Quare impedit, qe nest pas suffrable
la ley,
par la
nomement quant vous mesmes estoietz partie devant
al Quare impedit, et adonqes le puissetz aver plede
ou a meyns aver fait protestacion de vous aver
sauve vostre plee en le Quare non admisit; et de
puis qe vous ne le feistes pas vous avetz perdu
lavantage.-WILBY, ad idem. Chose de quei Levesqe
al Quare impedit poait aver eu conissaunce, come
plenerte, et nel alleggea pas il nest pas resoun qil
eit lavantage apres a dire le revers; et auxi bien.
poet Lordeigner 3 saver de plenerte en temps de soun
predecessour come de soun temps demene; mes autre
serreit de bastardie, escomengement, ou altre
nounablete a la persone le presente, quele chose il
ne poait saver quant le Quare impedit fut porte;
par quei, tut ne pleda il rienz al Quare impedit
mes come Ordeigner, a un Quare non admisit apres
il purra avower le refuser par tiel nounablete, non
obstante qil nalleggea pas en le Quare impedit, par
quei en cest Quare non admisit dallegger plenerte
nest pas resoun a ceo qe semble.-Moubray. Nous
pernoms voz recordes qils refusent laverement.—
Grene. Si en temps soun predecessour partie de
temps de vj. moys passa, et partie en soun temps
demene, il avera mesme lavantage com si tut le
temps fut passe en soun temps demene, saver a
doner per lapsum temporis come Ordeigner. Donqes
posetz qe tut le temps de vj. moys passa 6 en temps
ceste Evesqe, et Quare impedit fut porte vers luy
apres ceo qil avoit fait la collacion, et il ne clama
riens mes come Ordeiner,3 saunz avowere qil avoit
1 The words a ore are from C. alone.
avowing that he had given by reason of lapse of time, and the plaintiff had had a writ to the Bishop against him, he would not, in a Quare non admisit, be able to avow the refusal of the presentee by reason of such plenarty, nor consequently in this case, inasmuch as he could have alleged the plenarty caused by his predecessor's collation as well as by his own.-STOUFORD, ad idem. An Ordinary can, on a Quare impedit, avow some kind of hindrance which another person cannot, and he can avow some kind of hindrance on a Quare non admisit which he could not avow on a Quare impedit, as, for instance, disability of the person, as has been previously mentioned; but on a Quare impedit he could well avow plenarty through his own collation or that of his predecessor, either of which falls under his notice, and when he has on the Quare impedit allowed his time to pass he loses the advantage, as it seems, of alleging it afterwards.-Moubray. An Ordinary cannot allege a last presentation, or plenarty, nor can he plead anything to the plaintiff's title in a, Quare impedit, unless he were to plead it as a disturber; and if our predecessor caused hindrance by collation within the period of six months, of his own wrong, we are not to be punished for that; therefore if you will abide judgment on that, we take the records to witness that you refuse the averment.-Mutlow. We tell you that Hugh Giffard, parson imparsonee of the same church, in the time of William de Ermyn, your predecessor, was deprived, &c., which deprivation was affirmed in the Court of Arches, and therefore Giles de Badlesmere, first husband of the plaintiff Elizabeth, presented William Herlyng, who was admitted, &c., on his presentation, which William, as parson imparsonee, continued his estate in the time of your predecessor William, and
done par temps passe, et le pleintif ust brief al
Evesqe vers luy, en Quare non admisit il navowereit
pas le refuser1 par tiele plenerte, nec per consequens
en ceste matere, desicome il poait aver allegge la2
plenerte fait par la collacion son predecessour si
bien come de luy mesme.-STOUF. ad idem. Ordiner
a un Quare impedit poet avower asqun destourbaunce
quel autre persone ne poet pas faire, et asqun
destourbaunce poet il avower a un Quare non admisit
quel il navowereit pas al Quare impedit, come nouna-
blete de persone sicome avant ad este parle; mes
plenerte de sa collacion demene ou de soun
predecessour, qe
chient adonqes en sa notice
avowereit i bien al Quare impedit, et, quant il ad
sursys soun temps al Quare impedit il perde 4
lavantage, a ceo qe semble, del allegger apres.
Moubray. Ordiner ne poet allegger darrein presente-
ment, ne plenerte, ne rienz pleder au title le pleintif
en Quare impedit, sil ne pledast come destourbour; et
si nostre predecessour fit destourbaunce par collacion
deinz le temps de vj. moys, de soun tort, nous ne
serroms pas puny; par quei si vous voilletz 5 la 2
demurer nous pernoms voz recordes qe vous refusetz
laverement.-Mutl. Nous vous dioms qe Hugh
Giffard persone enpersone de mesme leglise, en temps
William Dermyn, vostre predecessour, fuit prive,
&c., quele privacion en
en les Arches fut afferme,
par quei G. de Badelesmere, primer baron Elizabeth
qe se pleint, presenta William Herlynge qe a soun
presentement fut receu, &c., le quel William, come
persone enpersone, continua soun estat en temps de
Vostre predecessour William, et tut le
1 The words le refuser are omitted from I.
2 la is from C. alone.
& H., cheient; C., chiet.
4 C., ad perdu.
5 L., voletz.
6 C., qun.
7 H., de Ermyn.
8 L., Bassingbourne.
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