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Margery the doughter of Galfrid Smyth of the parisch of name of Irden Mignace Riecbaelieu ! What is ffreshwatir in the Ile of Wyght the s'vaunt of Thomas the nationality of the person? WM. VINCENT. Ischett the yere of oure lord king berry forsaide xiijl Relle V.1 Rice Norwich
Belle Vue Rise, Norwich, yere which Margery is lyvyng at Mylleford in the shire of South' forsaide within the hunderith of Cristchurch
OWFIELD, OR OLDFIELD, M.P.-Samuel Owe to the which wytnesse we sette oure sealis John Ship
1p field was M.P. for Gatton from man maire of the said towne of Cristchurch Thomas
1624 till his fychet benry herdy constabiles, Willia' Brownyng Bayly
decease circa 1644, and William Owfield or Old. of the same Towne, John Ryghe, Ricbard bamond, field-presumably his son-represented the same Richard Baker, Roger Bright and Robert Mason." borough in 1645-48, and from 1660 till his Register of John Chedworth, Bishop of Lincoln, fol. 20. I death in 1664. The former was knighted at
A. G. Whitehall on May 13, 1641, as Sir Samuel 4, Minster Yard, Lincoln.
Oldfield “ of Lincolnshire." Is anything known of these members ? It may be assumed that they
were connected with the Oldfields of Spalding, in Queries.
Lincolnshire, Barts., but the usual pedigrees of We must request correspondents desiring information that family do not include them. W. D. Pink. on family matters of only private interest, to affix their names and addresses to their queries, in order that the CROMWELL'S GENERAL LAMBERT.-Can any of answers may be addressed to them direct.
your readers inform me whether any new facts
have come to light during the past half-dozen Sir John VANBRUGH'S DESIGNS FOR REBUILD- years concerning John Lambert, one of Cromwell's 18G GRIMSTHORPE CASTLE.— I recently purchased generals? Is it known who his ancestors were ? from a second-hand bookseller four large engrav. Are there descendants living? Is there any printed ings, three of which gave the elevation of the work or matter known of his authorship? What exterior frontages of Grimsthorpe Castle, Lincoln was the maiden name of his wife? I have seen shire, as designed by Sir John Vanbrugh, and the by one mention that she was called “La Belle fourth was his plan for “the principal floor.” Akata.”
J. A. M. These four engraving were unknown to the Baroness Willoughby de Eresby, and are not in
GREVILLE.-Can any reader of `N. & Q.' give cluded in the collection of prints and views of the
a complete list of the armorial bearings on the castle preserved at Grimsthorpe. The imposing
tomb of Sir Fulke Greville (d. 1559) in Alcester north front was the only portion of Vanbrugh's |
Church, Warwickshire ? They comprise the arms design that was carried out, and it includes the
of his father, Sir Edward Greville of Milcote, with largest entrance-ball in the kingdom. If his de
three quarterings (Greville, Arderne, and another); signs for the three other sides of the castle had
the arms of his wife's grandfather, Robert, second been carried out, they would have involved the
Baron Willoughby de Broke, with eighteen quardestruction of the King John tower and of the
terings (D'Ufford, Bec, Latimer of Danby, Welby, most ancient portions of the stately structure.
Cheney, Stafford, Champernowne, &c.); and the The four plates are taken from the "third vol." of
1 ms of arms of his wife's great-grandfather, Richard, Lord some work. Can any correspondent tell me the
Beauchamp de Powyk, with two quarterings (Beautitle of the work ?
champ of Powyk and Uffleet).
Is anything known of the ancestry of William BEATIFICATION AND CANONIZATION.- Refer
Greville (or Grevel) of London, who died 1401, Ences desired to any book or other writing ex
and lies buried in Chipping-Campden Churcb, plaining the teaching of the Church of Rome as to
Gloucestershire? His brass bears the arms of the effect of beatification and canonization on those
Greville, differenced with a mullet. on whom it is bestowed. Faber I have already.
John Bilson. Hull. NELLIE MACLAGAN. PAPILLON.-Having reason to believe that some
WORDS CONNECTED WITH ARCHITECTURE. of my name still live in Yorkshire, I shall feel
There are many technical words belonging to the much obliged to any such to inform me as to their
trades connected with architecture that are not to former relations in France ; and especially, if
be found in etymological dictionaries. It is interestkoown, as to the emigration to America of Peter
ing to architects to learn their derivation, and usePapillon, “the Huguenot," who was settled at
ful to them to know how they should be spelt. As Boston, Massachusetts, in 1670.
you or some of your learned correspondents may A. F. W. PAPILLON, Major.
be able to throw some light on this subject, I venture to ask if the word barge in barge-board=“the
eaves board of a gable,” is from the Welsh bargod, A CURIOSITY IN NAMES.—The Eastern Daily the eaves ; what the word purlin, “the timber Press, Norwich, Wednesday, June 29, records that that carries rafters between trusses,” and what a prosecutor at the Quarter Sessions rejoices in the 'toggle or tossle, “the piece of timber let into a wall
against which a shore abuts," are derived from ; produces a shock, and is, in reality, no other than what cleading="a polling board," originally means the famous Leyden experiment varied in the and is derived from ; and when was squanchion apparatus. What was the subject and size of the applied to the bevelled side of a chimney opening ? picture; and is it preserved in any of the museums G. AITCAISON. | in France ?
St. John's Wood. “As SHARP AS BOTTLED PORRIDGE.”-I have looked through the five volumes of the General LADY BOUNTIFUL.-Seeking a few years ago Index of 'N. & Q.,' and I believe that the above (N. & Q.,' 6th S. iv. 228) for information regarding saying is not recorded among the “Proverbs and a child's book of the eighteenth century entitled Phrases” that have been published in these pages. Peter Pippin,' I was kindly referred by two of It denotes mental briskness—as of a clever boy in your correspondents to an evidently emasculated school—"That lad is as sharp as bottled porridge." | version of later years. The reverend ponagenarian But whence the meaning ? CUTHBERT BEDE. for whom I sought the information has since taken
his passport for Eöthen, and if there he comes across DULCARNON.–Pythagoras, the reputed discoverer the
the rejuvenated person of Master Oliver Goldsmith, of the propositions (a) that the triangle inscribed
my friend can ask the great master of playful in a semicircle is right angled; (b) that the square
pathos if the work in question was by him delivered on the hypotenuse of a right angled triangle is
to the order of Mr. Francis Newberry, printer, of equal to the sum of the squares on the sides (vide
Paternoster Row. Mean time it may interest many Smith’s ‘Classical Dict.,' abridged, 8vo.).
of your readers to be informed whether our illus“ Dulcarnon.-'A certain proposition found out by trious acquaintance, my Lady Bountiful, was first Pythagoras; upon which he offered an ox in sacrifice to the Gods, in token of thankfulness, and called it Dul
introduced to us through the pages of this book. carron. Whence the Word is taken by Chaucer, and
It seems as if no one less than Goldsmith should other old English writers, for any hard knotty question | be accredited as her sponsor.
ALNWICK. or point.'-Kesey's Phillips,' ed. 1706” (vide appendix to * Glossary," vol. i., Chaucer, 6 vols., “ Aldine Poets," A PROPHECY.—What is the historical meaning Bell & Sons).
of the following serio-comic prophecy, which I 1. I would ask, Does “Dulcarnon” refer to one extract from the North Briton, No. 41, March, or both of the propositions instanced ?
1763 — 2. What other old English writers make use of When Andrew shall unite with James “ Dulcarnon"?
And Tweed adulterate with Thames, 3. What does Kesey's ‘Phillips' mainly treat When Cod shall make the salmon rue, of ? Its title is strange to me.
Blue turn to yellow, green to blue; 4. Can any one give quotations of its use
Wben John leaves Margaret in the lurch,
And Presbyterians head the Church, in Elizabethan or modern English literature, When cold Jamaica sends for peat “ Augustan" (Anne) or Victorian?
From Florida to roast her meat; Chaucer has it in Troy. and Crys.,' bk. iii.
When Reformation turns a shrew stanza cxxvi. :
And acts as Riot us'd to do;
When England 's lost and Britain wins,
When Union's firm, and strife begins ;
When Stuarts' claims are all o'erthrown,
And Stuart reigns without a crown,
Then triumph Scotland! Thou hast won !
England, look to 't; the charm's begun.
E. WALFORD, M.A. LUMLEY.-Can any reader of 'N. & Q.' tell me
Hyde Park Mansions, N.W. of what family and in which regiment was Capt. Hugh Lumley, who married between 1736 and PROUT.--I have two beautiful water - colour 1757 Mary, eldest daughter of Sir Christopher pictures signed “S. G. Prout." Can any of your Musgrave, Bart., of Edenball, co. Cumberland ? readers tell me who this Prout was? Was be any This lady married, secondly, in St. Ann's, Dublin, relation of the great Samuel Prout, or of J. Skinner by licence granted June 29, 1759, Col. John Prout? Are any other works by him known ? Pigott, of Prospect and Brockley, Queen’s County.
· DEAN. Pigott-LUMLEY. Sunderland, FRANKLIN'S MAGIC PICTURE.-If the report of "The Pagora.'—Who is the translator of a story the proceedings of the Royal Academy of Paris, from the French which appeared in ‘Hogg's In. 1759, is correct, the picture was the precursor of structor,' vol. i. 1853, under the title of 'The what is now known as photography, as it was pro- Pagota'; and has it ever been published in book duced by means of a square pane of glass covered form ? And from which French author was the in part with leaves of metal, with a print over story taken ; and what is its name in the original ? them, which, when electrified and properly touched,
"As PLEASED AS PUNCH."--One of the com- ' Diary'is interesting. I cannot see it has ever monest sayings met with is this, and it is used been printed. Is it in MS. still ; and, if so, as & mode of conveying an idea of the pleasure where ?
C. A. WARD. which some one has shown when something good Haverstock Hill. bas unexpectedly been given or told. “He looked | a3 pleased as Punch about it " is frequently heard.
AUTHORSHIP OF Songs WANTED.-I shall be How far back can the expression be traced?
obliged by information respecting the authorship Thos. RATCLIFFE.
of the song beginningWorksop.
When the kine had giv'n a pail full, ROBERT BALE, RECORDER OF LONDON.-Richard
found in the Collection of 180 Loyal Songs,' Arnold (Customs of London,' Fras. Douce, 1811).
1685; also regarding two songs in D'Urfey's' Pills mentions this recorder as of the reign of Henry IV., ;
V? to purge Melancholy,' 1719, one in vol. i. p. 109, referring at the same time to a work by him,
Celemene pray tell me, sopposed to be lost. I find his name in no printed por manuscript list of recorders. Can any one buc
the other in vol. iii. p. 203, beginninghelp me to a reference? John J. STOCKEN.
Oh mother, Roger with his ki8g. 3, Heathfield Road, Acton, W.
FRANK E. Bliss.
New York, U.S. ALTARAGE.—In Ripon account rolls of the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries I find frequent BISHOP SPARROW'S ‘RATIONALE.' — To some mention “de panno altaragio,” or, “de pannis editions of this book is appended the form for the altarag'," and I should be glad to see a satisfactory
consecration of a church or chapel drawn up by explanation of the term.
J. T. F. Bishop Andrewes. In which edition of Sparrow's Bp. Hatfield's Hall, Durham,
work does this form first appear ?
T. LEWIS 0. DAVIES. RELIGIONS AND SAUCES IN ENGLAND.-Can Pear Tree Vicarage, Southampton, any of your readers tell me who first accused the English of being a people with a bundred religions and only one sauce ? I have an impression it was Voltaire; but I have heard the saying
Replies. attributed to Talleyrand. CHARLES SWEET.
LORD MAYOR'S DAY, WALKING-STICK.-A stick has recently come
(7th S. iii. 497.) into my possession having carved or scratched on The date of the installation of the Lord Mayor it a representation of a manor house with outbuild was changed from “the morrow of the Feast of St. ings in a kind of park-garden with well defined Simon and St. Jude" (Oct. 29) to Nov, 9 by roads and paths. Underneath this house is the statutory enactment in the Act of Parliament following quaint inscription :
entitled“ An Act for the abbreviation of MichaelJohn Alcock is my name
mas Term," 24 Geo. II. cap. 48 (1751), sect. 11, england is my nation
which came into operation after the Feast of St. Marham is my dwelling
Michael, 1752. The provisions of the preceding place and Christ is my
statute effecting the well-known alteration in the salvation, when i be dead and in my
style, 23 Geo. II. cap. 23 (1751), which by sect. 1 grave and all my
was ordered to operate from Jan. 1, 1752, rendered bones be rotten,
a change in the date of holding the term—which here's this to see
had theretofore commenced three weeks earlier in uppon this stick
the autumn than the date proposed to be adopted that i am not
-imperative for many reasons. Nov. 3 was the forgotten, 1644,
opening day decided upon. It was advisable that Can any of your readers inform me as to John
the Lord Mayor should be sworn in before the Alcock of Marham ? He would appear to have
judges in session during term time on ordinary been a man of substance in the year 1644, when
occasions, though provision existed for another the battle of Marston Moor was fought. I have
mode of imposing the obligation on the occurrence looked into the books of reference relating to Nor
of extraordinary -- say accidental — emergencies. folk, but caopot find John Alcock; but have found
The first four days of term were appropriated to Bishop Alkok in the time of Henry VII.
various technical matters of imminence; a Sunday J. C. PARKINSON.
must be allowed for as coming within the first seven 23, Great George Street, Westminster.
working days; therefore it was thought more con
venient to fix the annually recurring civic cereinony STRYPE-J. P. Malcolm, in his 'Lives of Topo on the sixth day from the commencement of term. graphers and Antiquaries,' says that John Strype's A similar change was made by sect. 12 in the
day for nominating sheriffs generally throughout viros cum armis et quibusque pretiosis sepelire the kingdom in the Court of Exchequer. This solebant. “Moris enim fuerat,' inquit Servius in was changed from “the morrow of All Souls" |' Æneid,' x. 'ut cum his rebus sepelirentur, quos (Nov. 3), which under the old system would have delexirant vivi!" (Comment.,'t. xii. p. 731). been well on in Michaelmas term, to“ the morrow The mound of Patroclus exactly represents the of St. Martin” (Nov. 12) which by the new circular barrow, with its enclosure of stones, and calendar would be about midway through the earth upon them :same term, or, as it is phrased, “in full term.” |
τορνώσαντο δε σημα, θεμείλιά τε προβάλοντο The date of the first day of Michaelmas term was didi avprv, cidap di yuray si yalay yevav. thrown back one day by statute 1 Will. IV.,
. Il.,' xxiii. 255, 256. cap. 60 (1830), operative since 1831. The date of
The Deucídia, as explained in Bothe's edition, the ordinary annual recognition of the Lord Mayor remained unaltered. Until the recent judicature
Lips., 1832, are “ fundamenta, lapides band arrangements, practically abolishing terms, the
dubie." So, again, when the explanation of pizda
de oņue' čxeav over the bones of Hector (xxiv. 799) ceremony was performed on the day week of the
is “tumulum, sive terram aggestam in formam, commencement of Michaelmas Term, i.e. (2+7=)
sæpeque altitudinem collis," there is the early Nov. 9, and that at present continues to be the date statutorily ordained.
ED. MARSHALL. NEMO. Temple,
BALIOL (7th S. iii. 496).- Alexander Baliol died Lord Mayor's Day was only nominally changed. in 1278. His death is reported on the Fines Roll By the change of style of the calendar in 1752 (6 Edw. I.) on Nov. 13, and on the Close Roll the day which was Oct. 29 became Nov. 9. In (7 Edw. I.) on the 29th, in that year. The regnal like manner, George III., who was born on May 24, year ended Nov. 20. He does not appear to have 1738, kept his birthday, from the time when he left issue, since his brother John was returned bis became Prince of Wales, on June 4.
beir. His widow, Alianora “de Genoure, the
W. T. LYNN. king's cousin,”. daughter of Pierre de Geneville, Blackheath.
married secondly Robert de Stuteville; and the · Was not the date of Lord Mayor's Day changed
news of her death is entered on the Fines Roll, with the introduction of the New Style from
Sept. 8, 1310. Oct. 29 to Nov. 9? The New Style came in five
John Baliol was Seigneur de Bailleul and Héliyears after the date mentioned by MR. ELLIS.
court, which are probably the estates meant. He
died in 1314, but I do not know where he was EDWARD R. VYVYAN. buried.
HERMENTRUDE. Until May 9, 1214, the office of chief magistrate of London was held for life. King John then
Chauncy, in his Historical Antiquities of granted permission for the mayor to be chosen Herts,' devotes, in vol. ii., under “Hitchin," annually. From that time until the adoption by several sections to the Baliol family, and, accordEngland, in 1752, of the Gregorian or New Style. | ing to him, Alexander de Balioll died anno 7 the Lord Mayors of London came into office on Edw. 1., 1279.
M.A.Oxon. Oct, 29.
EVERARD HOME COLEMAN. 71, Brecknock Road.
BURNING QUESTION (7th S. iii. 495).-Instances of the use in 1856 and 1863 are given in ‘N. & Q.,'
5th S. viii, 387; iv. 407, in both which this modern AN URN BURIAL NEAR SHEFFIELD (7th S. iij. I 421).-MR. S. 0. ADDY, in his notice of the Are there earlier known instances than that in
· phrase occurs as a translation from the German. custom of the burial of weapons with departed | 1856 ? Not a sipgle one was given in reply. warriors, has not mentioned the addition to the
There is a parallel use of the term burning Hebrew in the Septuagint version of the Book of which may well come into connexion with Josbua, at xxiv. 30:-ékei einkav pet' avtOÙ Eis Longfellow, in his · Village Blacksmith,' has the To uvñua, eis o ebayav ávtov ékei, tas paxaipas expression “ burning deed and thought" in a τας πετρίνας, εν αίς περιέτεμε τους υιούς Ισραήλ Ια
good sense. For the poem closes with these lines : év Tadyálois (Oxon., 1848). So, in like manner, there is' at Ezekiel xxxii. 27,4" And they shall
Thanks, thanks to thee, my worthy friend,
For the lesson thou hast taught ? not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the un
Thus at the flaming forge of life circumcised, which are gone down to hell, with
Our fortunes must be wrought; their weapons of war: and they have laid their Thus on its sounding anvil shaped swords under their heads” (?Onkav tas pagalpas
Each burning deed and thought. avtv ünÒ Tòs kepadas ávt@v); on which there
ED. MARSHALL. is the following foot-note in my edition of Cornelius DR. MURRAY omits Italian from his list of uses a Lapide (Paris, 1866):—“Alludit Propheta ad of this word; but both questione scottante and usum fere universalem apud veteres, qui bellatores questione ardente (chiefly the former) have come into modern journalistic use, just as in the lan. English, are styled Allemands by the French, and guages named by him. It appears certainly, how - speak of themselves as Deutsche. As regards ever, not to have originated in Italy, for a great Hellenes being a “foreign” word, your correItalian authority supports me in the assertion that spondent may be pleasantly surprised when, by it would not be found nei classici, though scottare, turning to any good dictionary, he discovers that in a different turn of phrase, is a good classic equi- the English tongue is richer than he fancied by valent of burning in its metaphorical use. An such words as Hellas, Hellene, Hellenic, Hellenism, important discussion of the expression questione Hellenist, Hellenistic, Hellenize, &c. ardente may be found in an article by Enrico
AN HELLENE. Nepcioni (one of the most esteemed Tuscan writers of the day) in Fanfulla della Domenica
NAME OF AUTHOR Wanted (7th S. iv, 28).for Aug. 19, 1883.
The Squire's Pew' was written by my aunt, Jane I think my late humble attempt (7th S. iii. 208,
Taylor, at Marazion, in Cornwall, and is included 255) to dissipate the mythical account of Savona
in the volume entitled 'Essays in Rhyme,' which
was published in 1816. The book was very rola's execution, considering the strong feeling on the subject, is an undeniable instance of a “burn
popular, and rapidly ran through several editions. ing question.” But it is difficult (as was lately
How many I cannot say; but I have in my posshown in 'N. & Q.')" to make a lie die"; and
session a copy of the fifth edition, which bears the this one of Savonarola having been burnt alive
date of 1825. Mr. Pratt bas misquoted the was brought forward again, and quite gratuitously,
opening lines, which run :in the account of the sale of Lord Crawford's
A slanting ray of evening light library in the Times as lately as June 30 (p. 3,
Shoots through the yellow pane;
It makes the faded crimson bright, col. 6).
R. H. BUSK,
And gilds the fringe again. ACROMEROSTICA (76 S. iii. 167).—These lines
* The Squire's Pew' has been esteemed by good may be by Fr. James Dardeius. He turned the
judges- Mr. Browning, I think, among the numfour books of the Imitation of Christ,' by Thomas
ber—as one of the most perfect poems of its class à Kempis, into hexameters. Each chapter con
in the language ; and it may, I think, claim to tains five stapzas of five lines each, and there is a
rank as an Eoglish classic. Isaac TAYLOR. cruciform Jesus in tbe centre of each pentastich ;| Per-EXISTENCE (7th S. iv. 8).-For the benefit but there is no instance of the name Jesus in the lof present readers, it may be useful to state that initial or terminal letters throughout the book. It was printed by Christian Ouwerx, at Liège, in
this interesting subject was very fully discussed in
the earlier volumes of N. & Q.,' viz., 2nd S. ii., A.D. 1633.
EDMUND WATERTON. liii., iv., v., vii., xi.; 3rd S. xi. MAJESTY (7th S. iv. 28).—It is impossible to
ROBERT F. GARDINER. draw any line, Kalakaua was treated in London Dr. Routh (7th S. iii. 452)— With respect to as a king, and was made to dance with the Princess the story told in the Globe of March 23, 1887, I of Wales, and to go in to dinner before the Crown venture to assert that there was not the slightest Prince of Germany. Cetywayo, on the other tincture of sarcasm in the mind of the kind old hand, was not treated as a king by the English President of Magdalen College, Oxford, Dr. Routh, Court,
D. and he was about the last person to make such
an observation ; but some fifty years ago I heard KING GEORGE OF GREECE (7th S. iv. 28).—The the game anecdote told of Dr. Shuttleworth, then inquiry of your correspondent M. HENRI DE | Warden of New College, afterwards Bishop of LOSSIGEL has been repeatedly answered before Chichester. Whether it was true of him I know this. When the present king was elected to the not : but I am anxious to vindicate the memory throne of Greece he was acclaimed by the nation of one whom I knew well and greatly respected. as king, not of Greece, but of the Greeks
SENEX. Barleus tov 'Eldivov. This title was justified by the undivided allegiance which Greeks in
There is one inaccuracy which gives the story all parts of the world own, in their heart of hearts an appearance of improbability. The fee paid to to the sovereign of the free portion of their father. university preachers, in Dr. Routh's time and for land. The Great Powers admitted this title: but some years after, was not five pounds, but four out of consideration for the susceptibilities of the guineas. The fee was raised to five guineas about 80-called Sublime Porte, they adopted for official | fifteen years ago, when a good many sermons were purposes the style of King of the Hellenes, as disa abolished, and only the two on Sundays in full tinguished from the Greeks still under Turkish term retained. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A. rule. In Greek no difference is made, as I'paikoil The
wel The Library, Claremont, Hastings. is considered an objectionable foreign appellation. | ARMS OF Scott (7th S. iii. 67, 159).-In reply In like manner the Germans, so called by the to TABLE-TALK, who has asked for the addresses