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18. Nellore.-Besides a school for East Indian youths, there are at this station two seminaries; an Anglo-vernacular school, both for boys and girls, supported by the Scotch Free Church Mission, and a school called the Nellore Sanscrit Audra (Telugu) Patasala. The first mentioned has been in existence upwards of 13 years; the latter was established, by some of the leading natives, about four years ago only. In recommending a small grant to the latter school, the Inspector gave his opinion, that the study of English should be added to the present course of instruction. This suggestion having come to the knowledge of the managers of the Mission School, has led them to address a "statement" of considerable length to the Director. So long as the Patasala taught the vernacular only, they would not have objected to a grant being made to it, but they do feel aggrieved that there should be a second Anglovernacular school at Nellore, taken under the protection of Government; it is unjust to them, who have long pre-occupied the ground, inasmuch as it will be construed by the natives as implying, on the part of Government, a distrust of the Mission School, and a desire to countenance efforts made in opposition to it; besides, the rival school is in the hands of the sheristadars, and the sheristadars, it is well known, appoint to all the Governmental posts in the districts; these posts the sheristadars, who are all Brahmins, are anxious to keep for their own caste; aware that, without an English education this cannot long continue to be done, they have opened a little school of their own, where the knowledge required may be had, with as little risk as possible of the "light and learning of the west" interfering with their prejudices.

19. On this the Government must observe, that wherever there are missionary schools, rival native establishments may in progress of time be expected to appear; in addition to the instance now under review, it has so happened in Masulipatam and at Palamcottah. The plan to be followed in regard to such cases of opposition establishments is, to be guided solely by the quality of the instruction communicated, and if it is intrinsically good, to afford aid under the general rules. In the present case, the question whether English is to be taught in the Patasala should be decided by the community interested in it; it is their wish that English should be added to the curriculum; and the school being in other respects deserving of encouragement, it will be assisted, without reference to the views of the managers of the other school. The remarks of the latter on the influence likely to be exercised by the officials of the district in the matter of appointment to and promotion in, the public service, appear to have been made in ignorance of the fact that arrangements have been made, and will shortly be carried out, for the introduction of the competitive system on one general plan.

20. Kurnool.-"The Rev. Mr. Johnston's School at Nundial." It is observed that no fee is demanded at this school. Before granting the donation suggested, the Director will take care to require the payment of a suitable fee.

21. Canara, Mangalore.-The exertions of the Roman Catholic community at this station appear deserving of every support.

22. "Theological Seminaries under the Gospel Society at Vediarpuram and Sawyerpuram."-It appears that many of the trained schoolmasters at these institutions are led to resign their posts, often at great inconvenience to the seminary, for the purpose of entering deacons' orders, which, under the rules of the society, are open to them.

With reference, therefore, to a proposed grant in aid of the salary of one of these offices, it is suggested that a distinct pledge should be exacted from the society, that no encouragement shall be given to a master to whose salary the Government may be disposed to contribute, to aspire to the ministerial order. The Government are of opinion that it will be sufficient if it is intimated to the society that Government will give the grant so long only as a trained master conducts the school. Should the school cease to be presided over by a trained official, the allowance will be withdrawn.

23. Madras. "Royapettah Preparatory School."-The remarks of the Inspector on the faulty mode of giving in the vernacular the names of towns, will be considered when the Madras Upayukta Grantha Karana Sabha's next report comes before Government. The Sabha's work on geography is the one used at

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24. Doveton Protestant College.-The Government fully concur with the Director that this institution is one worthy of every encouragement. Founded partly by local subscriptions and partly under the will of the late Captain Doveton, the schools have been in operation for two years only, but during that short period the energetic measures adopted by the committee of management, in procuring from England a competent professorial staff, in organising a body of subordinate teachers at the Presidency, and their efforts generally to establish a seminary of sound learning and religious education, have been such as to win the confidence and esteem of all classes of the community interested in their valuable labours. There are at present no less than 307 of both sexes in one or other of the schools attached to the college, viz :

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25. The committee are now greatly in want of assistance for the " College Building"" Fund. The cost of a suitable edifice is estimated at not less than 36,000 rupees, or 30.000 rupees in excess of the means available; and this sum they pray may be given to them by the State.

26. The proposal is warmly supported by the Director, and, under all the circumstances of the case, the Governor in Council resolves to place the sum required at the disposal of the committee of management; the same to be taken out of the accumulations standing to the credit of Education at this Presidency, agreeably to the spirit of the Honourable Court's instructions, contained in their Despatch, No. 44 of 1854, para. 8.

27. Resolved further, that the report above reviewed, together with the reports of the 10th July and 19th May last, be bound up in one, with a copy of this order attached, and that the whole form a number of the "Selections of Government.

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PAPERS referred to in Madras Public (Education) Despatch, dated 1st September 1858, No. 47, paras. 39 and 40.

EXTRACT, Public Letter from Fort St. George, dated 11th November, No. 34 of

In Diary to Cons., 13th May 1856, Nos. 1 and 2.
In Diary to Cons., 20th May 1856, Nos. 13 and 14.
In Diary to Cons., 3d June 1856, No. 49.

In Diary to Cons., 5th August 1856, Nos. 15 to 17,
and 17 A.
In Diary to Cons., 9th Sept. 1856, Nos. 31 and 32.
In Diary to Cons., 21st October 1856.

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Para. 23. REFERRING to paras. 11 to 14 of our Despatch, No. 8 of 1856, relative to the connexion of Major Maitland's school with the proposed civil engineering college at Madras, we transmit the accompanying further correspondence on the subject, arising from the very different interpretations adopted by Major Maitland and the Director of Public Instruction, of the Despatch from the Government of India, dated 12th January last, in respect to the position to be assigned to Major Maitland in the engineering college.

24. For their views, since communicated to us by the Government of India, in explanation of that part of their previous Despatch which related to this subject, we beg to refer your Honourable Court to their letter of the 8th August last.

25. In furnishing a copy of that letter to the Director of Public Instruction, we requested him to give his opinion as to the manner in which he would propose to work out the views of the Government of India in respect to Major Maitland's school, as therein indicated,

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EXTRACT, Fort St. George, Public, Diary to Consultation, 13th May 1856.
Received the following letter:

(No. 16).

From Major J. Maitland, Superintendent Gun Carriage Manufactory, to
T. Pycroft, Esq., Chief Secretary to Government, Fort St. George.

Sir,

THE Director of Public Instruction has forwarded to me a copy of the Des

patch from the Government of India, No. 172,* and called upon me to state how 12 Jan. 1856. the views therein contained can be carried out.

2. Mr. Arbuthnot states, "The wishes of the Supreme Government, as I read the Despatch, are that your present training school of ordnance artificers should be incorporated with the third department of the projected college, and that you should be placed in charge of the third department in particular, and of the practical instruction generally in the new institution."

3. I read the Despatch very differently from Mr. Arbuthnot, and it appears to me para. 14 is distinctly opposed to his view, for, if all classes in the college are to have the benefit of "his training school," the meaning of which is defined to be practical instruction, I cannot find any expression in the Despatch which names me for the particular charge of the third, any more than the second or first departments, to which it seems the artificers are equally eligible if qualified.

4. Mr. Arbuthnot having assigned to me a subordinate office in the proposed college, which appears to me contrary to the letter and spirit of the Despatch, and having declined to refer the subject to Government, I have the honour to request that you will submit this question for the decision of the Governor in Council, as I have a difficulty in furnishing him with the information he requires until I know what position. I am to occupy in the proposed college.

I have, &c.

(signed) J. Maitland, Major, Superintendent Gun Carriage Manufactory.

Gun Carriage Manufactory, Madras, 16th April 1856.

(No. 498).-Referred to the Director of Public Instruction for his observations, as also for explanation why he declined to submit to Government Major Maitland's letter.

Fort St. George, 7th May 1856.

No. 2.

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From A. J. Arbuthnot, Esq., Director of Public Instruction, to the Chief
Secretary to Government, Fort St. George.

Sir,
On the 24th ultimo I was furnished by Major Maitland with a copy of a letter
addressed by him to Government, under date the 16th idem, with reference to
a correspondence which has passed between us on the subject of the late
Orders of the Government of India regarding the establishment of an Engineer-
ing College at Madras.

2. Having understood that Major Maitland's letter would be forwarded to me. by Government, for an explanation of the grounds on which I declined to make a reference in regard to the meaning of the orders of the Supreme Government, I 186 (II.)-Sess. 2.

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deferred moving further in the matter, pending the receipt of the orders of Government; but, as some time has elapsed since the submission of Major Maitland's letter, I have deemed it advisable to delay no longer, and have, therefore, the honour to submit for the consideration of the Right Honourable the Governor in Council, the accompanying transcript of the correspondence which has passed between Major Maitland and myself, and to request that Major Maitland may be instructed to furnish me with the information sought for in my letters of the 28th March and 10th ultimo.

3. It will be observed that, in the course of the correspondence, the requisition originally made by me to Major Maitland was somewhat narrowed, and was confined to an application for information on points connected entirely with the School of Ordnance Artificers, and on which, I submit, it was Major Maitland's duty, as it was in his power, to furnish me with the information for which I have applied. It will be observed, also, that the answers to the questions put by me do not in any way depend upon the position which may be eventually assigned to Major Maitland in the new institution.

3. I did not consider it expedient to make any reference to Government in regard to the meaning of the Despatch of the Supreme Government, until I had before me the information I had sought for from Major Maitland, as without this information I was not in a position to enter, as fully as I wish to enter, into the question of the feasibility of amalgamating Major Maitland's school with the projected college; and I felt that any authoritative expression of opinion as to the meaning of the Orders of the Supreme Government might, in the present state of the question, embarrass me rather than otherwise.

4. I venture, therefore, to request that his Lordship in Council will permit the determination of the questions raised by Major Maitland to lie over until he has furnished me with replies to the queries propounded in my letters, and that he may be instructed to furnish me with those replies without any further delay.

(signed)

I have, &c.
A. J. Arbuthnot,
Director of Public Instruction.

Office of the Director of Public Instruction,

5 May 1856.

(No. 193.)

To Major J. Maitland, Superintendent of the Gun Carriage Manufactory.

Sir,

I HAVE the honour to transmit to you the annexed copy of an extract from the Minutes of Consultation, under date the 14th ultimo, communicating copy of a letter from the Government of India on the subject of the scheme proposed in my letter of the 20th of July last, for the establishment of a Civil Engineering College at Madras, and to request that you will be good enough to favour me with your views as to the best mode of carrying out the orders of the Governor General in Council for the incorporation of the school at present attached to the Gun-carriage Manufactory into the scheme of the projected college.

2. I presume it is the intention of the Governor General in Council that the third department of the projected college should be established on the premises belonging to the Gun-carriage Manufactory, in order that the pupils may attend the workshops; but how such an arrangement would be consistent with the eventual separation of the offices of Superintendent of the Gun-carriage Manufactory and of Superintendent of the third department of the Engineering College, to which reference is made in the 9th and 10th paras. of Colonel Baker's letter, I do not very clearly comprehend.

3. I take this opportunity of sending for your perusal and for any remarks *To be returned, you may have to offer, an original order* of Government, under date the 27th September last, communicating copy of a letter from the chief engineer and a memorandum by Lieutenant Colonel F. C. Cotton; I also enclose the draft of

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my letter to Government of the 20th July last, in which the scheme of instruction proposed for the several departments of the projected college is set forth in detail.

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Sir,

To A. J. Arbuthnot, Esq., Director of Public Instruction, Madras.

I HAVE the honour to acknowledge your letter No. 193, annexing copy of a 12th March 1856. Minute of Consultation, No. 172, dated 14th February 1856, communicating

copy of a letter, No. 94, from the Government of India, on the subject of the + 12th Jan. 1856. scheme proposed in your letter of the 20th July last, for the establishment of a Civil Engineering College at Madras.

It appears to me from the whole tenor of the Despatch from the Government of India, and especially paras. 14 and 16, that instruction in the workshops is to be given not to the third department alone of the proposed college, but to all three.

I shall have much pleasure in giving you every information as to the best mode of carrying out the orders of the Governor General in Council, but to enable me to do this, I request you will favour me with your proposed scheme in detail, as it must be obvious to you I require this data to guide me in drawing up rules for that part of the course of instruction to which the Supreme Government evidently attach great importance.

I have, &c.

(signed) J. Maitland, Major, Superintendent Gun Carriage Manufactory.

Gun Carriage Manufactory, Madras,

18 March 1856.

To A. J. Arbuthnot, Esq., Director of Public Instruction, Madras.

N.B.-I RETURN Extract from the Minutes of Consultation, No. 1279, Public Department, dated 27th September 1855, communicating letter from the Chief Engineer, Department of Public Works, No. 1021, dated 17th September 1855, to the Secretary to Government, Public Works Department, and letter No. 16 of 20th July 1855, from the Director of Public Instruction to the Chief Secretary to Government, having taken copies of them.

(No. 245.)

To Major J. Maitland, Superintendent Gun Carriage Manufactory.
Sir,

I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 18th instant.

2. The scheme proposed by me for the establishment of the projected engineering college is stated in some detail in the 42d para. and in the Appendix to my letter of the 20th July last. Perhaps it will be sufficient if I ask you to inform me in what parts of the course specified in the Appendix, practical instruction can be provided in the workshops, and what staff of teachers will, in your opinion, be required for the third department, assuming the course of instruction to be that specified in the document above referred to.

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