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At the risk, then, of offending good taste, out- deposited in a grave ten feet deep, and that the field raging early and fond associations, and perhaps should be immediately ploughed over, that no trace of incurring the charge of " affectation," I cannot his burial-place should remain." but think that the variations of Cooper, Couper, As he was walking in these fields, Jan. 1, 1774, and Cowper are correctly pronounced Cooper, and he suddenly fell down and expired, in the fiftytbat Coke and Cooke should be regarded as two fourth year of his age. His burial took place as ways only of spelling one modernised pronunci- he had ordered.
T'. D. P. ation ; though, at the same time, I can have no
Etymology of Fetch and Haberdasher (Vol. v., sympathy with the drawing-room" slang" of the present day,—the ridiculous perversions patronised pp. 402.557.). --A correspondent in a late Number by it (as Broom for Brougham, Darby for Derby) inquires respecting the etymology of the Irish fetch, having justly afforded scope for the current wit
of an apparition supposed to warn a person of apthe day, and pointed the keenest satires of our proaching death. The superstition is by no means humorous friend Punch.
H. W. S. T. confined to Ireland, and in Pembrokeshire appears
in the shape of the fetch-candle, a light seen Southampton.
moving in the air at night, and supposed to be in
attendance on a ghostly funeral, portending the Replies to Minor Queries.
speedy death of the party who sees it. The name
might be plausibly explained as if the apparition Use of Slings by the Early Britons (Vol. v., p. were commissioned to fetch the fated seer to the 537.). — Similar discoveries to that on Weston other world, but probably erroneously. The suHill have been made on the fortified positions in perstition is, I believe, of Scandinavian origin, the south-east of Devon. Among the means taking its rise in the Vætt of those regions, a kind adopted by the Romans for the defence of their of goblin of dwarfish stature, supposed to dwell camps and stations, stones were used, the larger in mounds, whence vætte-lys, literally the Vætt's being thrown from engines, and the smaller from candle, a name given in Norway to the Will-o'-theslings (Cæsar, Bell. Gall., 1. ii. 8. 11. 19. 24., wisp, affording both a physical and etymological iv. 23. ; v. 35., &c.); and we learn from Vegetius explanation of the fetch-candle, that can hardly be that they were in the practice of collecting round doubted. See Vaet, VÆTTE-LYS, Molbech's Diastones in their fortified places, to be ready for use lects-Lexikon. in case of an attack:
Another word that has lately been made the “ Saxa rotunda de fluviis, quia pro soliditate graviora subject of inquiry is haberdasher, and the specusunt et aptiora mittentibus, diligentissimè colliguntur, lations offered with respect to the origin of this ex quibus muri replentur,"—Lib. iv, c. 8.
singular word are so wholly unsatisfactory, that it Heaps of stones collected for this purpose were
may be worth while to add one that has at least a found in the hill fortress, now partially destroyed, siderable slip to be cleared by conjecture at the
solid foundation, though it certainly leaves a concalled Stockland Castle, and others in the neigh
conclusion. bourhood of Membury Castle; for particulars respecting which, see a little work entitled. The reducible to significant elements, must be strongly
A word of so complex a structure, not apparently British and Roman Remains in the Vicinity of suspected of corruption, and the origin would naArminster, in the County of Devon, p. 82. For an turally be looked for in France, from whence we account of similar stones found in the camp at derive the names of so many of our tradesmen, as Camalet, see also Dr. Stukeley's Itinerary, p. 142.
butchers, tailors, cutlers, chandlers, mercers, &c.
J. L. Now the Dictionnaire de Languedoc has “ DebasBurialin Unconsecrated Ground (Vol. v., p.596.). saire, bonnetier, chaussetier, fabricant de bas," from - The name of Thomas Hollis ought not to be debasses, stockings. With us “The haberdasher omitted in the list of those persons who have heapeth wealth by hats,” but he usually joins with chosen to be buried in unconsecrated ground. that business the trade of hosier; and possibly, He was bealthy, rich, learned, and liberal. He when the meaning of the French term was not was honoured as a patriot, and was anxious to generally understood in this country, the name of promote the welfare and happiness of his fellow- the article dealt in might have been added to give creatures. It might be expected that, with all significance to the word, and thus might have these advantages, he was a bappy man; but many
formed hat-debasser, or hat-debasher, haberdasher. of the nine hundred pages in which his Memoirs
H. WEDGWOOD. are enshrined (4to. 1780) demonstrate that he was far from happy.
Baxter's “ Heavy Shove," &c. Vol. v., pp. 416.
594.). - From all I can learn, and I have carefully He had ordered that
searched for evidence, the Rev. Richard Baxter is “ In the middle of one of these fields, not far from his not the author of the Heavy Shove, referred to by house (Corscombe, Dorsetshire), his corpse was to be some of your correspondents. Had such a work
been written by Baxter, some reference would in his English-Welsh Pronouncing Dictionary, have been made to it in His own Life and Times, asserts the contrary opinion, namely, that ai, a, ay, where he refers to the history of the whole of &c., are merely different ways of writing the same his publications, including even those of a mere sound, which he considers a diphthong, composed pamphlet form, consisting only of a few sheets. of e Welsh and e English, the Welsh e being It is very possible that such a work was written identical with a in mare, e in there, ea in pear, and by a Mr. Baxter ; but not Richard, or that Ricbard other words, as pronounced by the generality of Baxter may have contributed the preface to such Englishmen. He also treats o in note as a dipha book, a thing he was very much in the habit of thong, which Walker considers simple. The Welsh doing. I have in my possession a small work en- o is simple, and differs from the diphthongal titled
English. There does not appear to be any reason “ The Doctrine of Self-Posing, or a Christian's Duty for distinguishing between the pronunciation of of putting Cases of Difficulty to Himself, being the pail and pale, as the pronunciation of words ought Sum of some Sermons Preached at Upton-on-Severn, in to regulate their spelling, rather than the spelling the County of Worcester, by B. Baxter, late Minister govern their pronunciation. Ap RHISIART. of the Gospel there, but now removed, with a Preface by Richard Baxter, 1666."
The Symbol of the Pelican (Vol. v., pp. 211, It is not improbable that the Rev. B. Baxter was 212.). – I should be glad if your correspondent
MARICONDA will favour me with the title of a the author of the Heary Shove. That such a title was ever given to the Call to the Unconverted, the device may be seen. In George Wither's Col
book or books printed by Rocco Bernabo, in which is very improbable. Baxter gives a particular account
of the circumstances under which this work, lection of Emblemes *, book iii. p. 154., there is a as well as the Saints' Rest, were written, but not a representation of this symbol surrounded by the word does lie state about any alteration in their motto “ Pro lege et pro grege;" but although the titles.. I can find nothing in the first edition of the page is headed Saints' Rest that will warrant the supposition that
“Our Pelican, by bleeding, thus, Baxter ever intended any other titles to these
Fulfill'd the Law, and cured us; ” works than those by which they are universally the representation (both of the bird and its young) known. If any alteration has ever taken place in is that of an eagle.
A, M. the titles of some of Baxter's publications, it must John Hope (Vol. v., p. 582.).—In 1768 he suchave been made by other hands. H. H. Bealby. ceeded his father as member for Linlithgow, as North Brixton.
the nominee of his relation the Earl of Hopetoun, “We Three” (Vol. v., p. 338.).— The Logger- who, it appears, allowed him an annuity – I infer heads as an inn sign is not so uncommon as your of 2001. a year — towards defraying his expenses correspondent fancies. That at Pentre, near Mold, when attending parliament. He appears to have is of considerable age, and one can only perceive been somewhat more liberal in his political opithe outline of human heads on the board. The nions than the earl approved, and in consequence exact date' I could not discover. In Liverpool of his voting against government on the question there is one called the “ Loggerheads Revived,” of giving Luttrell the seat for Middlesex, the where the figures are painted with considerable earl withdrew his support, and John Hope was force. The prevailing characteristic is two men of declared on petition "not duly elected.” I collect stout and jovial aspect grinning at the spectator.
the above few particulars from a pamphlet which AGMOND.
he published in 1772, entitled Letters on Certain Age of Trees (Vol. iv., pp. 401. 488.). – I may 1769, 1770, written by John Hope, Esq., late
Proceedings in Parliament during the Sessions linden tree at Freyburg, in Switzerland, planted representative for the county of Linlithgow. in remembrance of the battle of Morat, by a
If your correspondent has any wish to see the
N.J. citizen who returned safely. The battle was fought pamphlet, I will forward it to you. June 22, 1476.
AGMOND. Stoup (Vol. v., p. 560.). — As a contribution The Diphthong “ai" (Vol. v., p. 581.). – I be- towards the list of examples of exterior holy water lieve your correspondent R. Price is in error in stoups requested by Mr. Cuthbert Bede, I beg attributing inconsistency to Walker in respect of to inform him that one exists outside
the south the sound ai in pail, and the sound aye. "It ap- porch of the church of Hungarton in this county. pears to me that Walker's opinion is that the former is a simple vowel,
“ A collection of Emblemes, ancient and moderne, “ formed by one conformation of the organs;" and the latter a com
quickened with Metricall Illustrations, and disposed
into Lotteries both Morall and Divine, that instruction pound vowel, in pronouncing which “the organs and good Counsell may bee furthered by an bonest and alter their position." This opinion involves no in- pleasant recreation.
By George Wither, Lordon: consistency, though it may be erroneous. Spurrell, printed by Augustine Matthewes, 1634."
It adjoins the eastern jamb of the archway, and a little obscured in the English version of " giving has a stone canopy above it. I am not aware of one the sack."
H. WEDGWOOD. there being any other example in this neighbour- 42. Chester Terrace, Regent's Park, hood.
The country beggars in Ireland and Scotland A perfect holy water basin or stoup exists at formerly received the alms of the charitable in the church of Ixworth, St. Mary, on the exterior meal, potatoes, and other farming produce, which of the chancel entrance, south side of the church; they carried off in sacks and bags, suspended round also one on the exterior of the church at Paken their bodies. In the North of Ireland, in my ham, at the porch entrance, on the north side of youthful days, the phrase was well understood to the church: both in Suffolk. These observations imply that a person, when he had got the sack (was were made in my visits to those churches in Aug; discharged from his situation), had no other res 1849, and I believe the stoups are still to be found
source than to become a mendicant, and carry a there.
bag, the well-known emblem of his profession. There is an exterior holy water stoup at Win
« The world may wag chester Cathedral; I think on the south wall.
Since I've got the bag,
For thousands have had it before me :” Flanagan on the Round Towers of Ireland (Vol. was the chorus, and all I recollect, of a very comV., p. 584.). - That this announcement may not
mon Irish beggars' song, about thirty years ago. hazard the standing of those who have laboured The expression, however, is much older, and is to expound the mystery which the Cambrian plainly, alluded to, with the same signification, in bishop of King John's day could not, I can testify the following extract from the violent satire on that, having been allured by the title set forth in Cardinal Wolsey, which is, I believe, erroneously R. H.'s late communication, I examined the little attributed to Dr. Bull: pamphlet, and cannot think its author could for a “ The cloubbe signifieth playne his tiranny, moment be considered other than a literary wag,
Covered over with a Cardinal's batt, a caricaturist of antiquities, as Father Print has
Wherein shall be fulfilled the prophecy, been of poetry. I yet remember that the compo
Aryse up Jacke, and put on thy salatt, sition was at the time attributed to a prelate of
For the tyme is come of bagge and wulatt." very high rank on the Irish bench of bishops.
W. PINKERTON, « Stat nominis umbra.”
Ham. Giving the Sack (Vol. v., p. 585.). -A querist
The Bells of Limerick Cathedral (Vol. i., p. 382.; in a late Number seems to have confounded two
Vol. ii., p. 348.).—It would tend, no doubt, much
to the illustration of one of the most beautiful expressions
of essentially different import, viz. the German “ Einem einen Korb geben," to give one
traditions of Ireland, if any one would contribute the basket, and the widely-spread expression of
a note of the tone, workmanship, or decoration of "giving one the sack.” of these the former is these celebrated bells. Mr. N. P. Willis, before used when speaking of a lady refusing an offer of narrating the legend printed in “N. & Q:," merely marriage; and, in a secondary sense, any oue re
observes (Scenery and Antiquities of Ireland, vol. i. ceiving a refusal in general is said to "get the
p. 106.) that his guide to the belfry called on him
* to admire the size of the bells." "If neither inbasket." Nothing but guesses, and very unsatisfactory ones, have been given as to the origin of scriptions nor peculiarities of decoration or con this expression. They may be seen in Adelung, the bursar of the cathedral
, or some of the other
struction is observable, probably the accounts of under the word Korb. The import of the other expression may be accounted for in a more satis- records of the chapter, might afford evidence of factory manner. To tell a person in English to the substantial truth of the tradition, and of the “pack up his orts," is to send him about his busi- period when its incidents occurred.
J. R. WALBRAX. ness, - to desire him to clear away even his orts
Fall Croft, Ripon. or crumbs, and to leave no traces of himself behind. In French the word quilles, or ninepins Mexican, 8c. Grammar (Vol. v., p. 585.). --In (probably used as a type of the property least worth reply to the Query of W. B. D. respecting gramcarrying away a person could have) takes the mars of the South American languages compiled place of our orts; and “trousser leurs quilles" is by the Spanish missionaries, I would inform him explained by Cotgrave, “to pack up or prepare that such an one was drawn up and printed by for their departure.” Hence,“ donner son sac et the Jesuits in their missions in Paraguay of the ses quilles" to a workman, or person in our em- Guarani language, which is, I believe, the most ploy, is to pack him off; to hand him his traps ; diffused of the South American native tongues, and thus to give him the clearest intimation of our and forms the basis of very many of the other desire of his immediate departure. The import is numerous dialects of that continent. When in
Paraguay in 1842, I procured, with great difficulty, It was No. 289. in the Sale Catalogue prepared a copy of this work, which, unfortunately, I have by Leigh and Sotheby, but which was not genenot by me so as to describe it exactly; but, to the rally circulated:- Aspilogiu, 2 vols. folio; the first best of my recollection, it is a very small quarto, of 267 pages, and the second 233 pages. G. and was printed about the end of the seventeenth century at one of the Misiones de Paraguay. The
Foundation Stones (Vol. v., p. 585.).
There work is doubtless, as W. B. D. surmises
, very of May 21, 1852, the following account of the
appeared in a weekly periodical, the Leisure Hour, scarce even in South America or Spain.
G. J. R. G. foundation of Blackfriars Bridge:Bishop Merriman (Vol. v., p. 584.): -- According Robert Mylne, a Scotch architett
, was laid on the
“ The first stone of Blackfriars Bridge, the work of to Harris's edition of Ware's Irish Bishops, p. 205., 31st October, 1760. It was originally called Pitt's
John Merriman was consecrated Bishop of Down Bridge, in honour of William Pitt, the great Earl of in St. Patrick's church, Dublin, on the 19th Jan.
Chatham. If the foundations are ever disturbed, there 1568–9, by Thomas Lancaster, Archbishop of Dub, will be found beneath them a metal tablet, on which
is lin, assisted by the Bishops of Kildare, Meath, and inscribed in Latin the following grateful tribute of the Ossory; and we find from the
Ulster Inquisitions, citizens of London to the genius and patriotism of that published by the Irish Record Commissioners in illustrious statesman. On the last day of October, in 1829, that the family existed in the county of the year 1760, and in the beginning of the most ausDown (in which county the diocese of Down is picious reign of George III., Sir Thomas Chitty, Knt., situate) long after the bishop's death in 1572, and Lord Mayor, laid the first stone of this bridge, underthere occupying a highly respectable position in taken by the Common Council of London, during the society. In 1606 William Merryman was living progress of a raging war (flagrante bello), for the or
nament and convenience of the city; Robert Mylne in Bishop's Court (part of the episcopal lands of Down), in the barony of Lecale; in 1622 Robert being the architect. In order that there might be Merryman of Sheepland, another portion of the of the City of London for the man who, by the power
handed down to posterity a monument of the affection same episcopal lands in same barony, was one of the of his genius, by bis high-mindedness and courage trustees of the estates of Arthur Magenis, Viscount (under the Divine favour and happy auspices of Iveagh; and Nic. Maryman, of same place, is also George II.), restored, increased, and secured the mentioned as having obtained the lands of Glyvett, British Empire, in Asia, Africa, and America, and in same barony, from George Russell, previous to restored the ancient reputation and power of his 1663. The name frequently occurs for some years country amongst the nations of Europe, the citizens of later in the local history of the same district, but London have unanimously voted this bridge to be inseems subsequently to have declined, and to scribed with the name of William Pitt.'” have been called Merryment, latterly spelling it As it was not stated in the above-mentioned Marmion ; a few farmers of which name are still periodical whence this account was obtained, may to be found in the baronies of Lecale and Mourne. I be permitted to make the Query,
Where the J. W.H. original account of the ceremony is to be found, Birthplace of Andrew Marvell (Vol. v., p. 597.). and also the copy, in Latin, of the inscription on - If it be “again and again stated that he was
the said tablet ?
WILLOW. born at Hull," which Må. Kidd is "reluctantly compelled to believe" was not the case, having, in I need not
remind your correspondent Mr. Gill
Milton indebted to Tacitus (Vol. v., p. 606.). bis possession “authorised documents” proving where the patriot really was born, but which place in how very many instances the illustrious author has not hitherto been disclosed, it may be well to of the Paradise Lost has “ borrowed” the thoughts refer your correspondent and others to Poulson's of foregone classics, and, as Mr. Gill well says, History of the Seigniory of Holderness, vol. ii. with more than returned favour, lending them a
heightened expression." p. 480. 4to. 1841, where it is stated that the entry of his birth in the Parish Register of Winestead, with its formidable array of parallel passages from
Warton's edition of the Minor Poems of Milton, of which place his father, Andrew Marvell, became rector, on the presentation of Sir Christopher other and elder puets, furnishes an abounding Hildyard, Knight, on the 16th April, 1614, and example of a prevailing characteristic of Milton's resigned the living in 1624 for the Readership of mind, that of reflecting (perhaps unconsciously) the Holy Trinity Church, Hull, proves that the the axioms and bright sayings of all ages of litevillage of Winestead claims the honour of having rature, stored in his capacious brain-treasury; been his birthplace.
No writer of the same rank in genius has, I
should suppose, to a greater extent re-fused the Anstis on Seuls (Vol. v., p.610.). — The MS. in sentences of other authors which were worth prequestion was in the Stowe Collection, and passed, serving. Warton, I have heard, produced his with all the other MSS., to the Earl of Ashburn- edition in no friendly spirit towards the old reham in 1849.
publican, whom he hated for his politics, but to manifest the abundance of the poet's obligations sovereign princes of Europe, with a series of their to his predecessors. There is no question that births, matches, more remarkable actions, and deaths, Milton" borrowed," and unscrupulously; but it and also the augmentations, decreasings, and pretences was not an Israelitish " borrowing of the of each family, are drawn down to the year 1690. Egyptians; he returned the thoughts he had ap
Written in Latin by Anthony William Schowart, Hispropriated with added lustre, or, to preserve the tory-professor at Frankfort, and now made English ; image in its integrity, with compound interest.
with some enlargements relating to England. 8vo.
1693. London." As I remember, Leigh Hunt, when we were speaking on this very subject, acknowledged in his bears the imprimatur” of Edmund Bohun, with fanciful and humorous vein of language :- "Oh, the date of “Decemb. 12, 1692;” and at the close yes! Milton' borrowed' other poets' thoughts, but of the preface the translator states that, he did not borrow' as gipsies borrow children, " In the Latin copy, amongst King James II.'s spoiling their features that they may not be re
children there is one mentioned and called The Prince cognised. No, he returned them improved. Had of Wales; but the late licenser, Mr. Bohun, having exhe borrowed' your coat, he would have restored punged him, the translator could not, by the warrant it, with a new nap upon it!". COWDEN CLARKE. of the Latin original, presume to insert bim.”
JOHN BRUCE. Plague Stones (Vol. v., p. 226.). — There was
Declaration of Two Thousand Clergymen (Vol. V., some time ago, and I believe is still in the neighbourhood of Dorchester, co. Dorset, one of these p: 610.); - I do not think the names of the two rare stones; it is situated on the east side of a supposed to call in question the Queen's Supre
thousand clergymen that signed the declaration public road, not far from the first milestone from Dorchester, on the London turnpike road; it too long for insertion in “N. & Q.,” but Rusticus
macy were ever published. The declaration is stands near a tree close to the hedge, a few feet beyond the gate leading to Stinsford House, on the
will find it in the English Churchman, No. 400, road just branched off to Moreton, &c. This stone
August 29, 1850, pp. 587, 588.
G.A.T. has not been heretofore noticed, that I am aware of, as a plague stone; it has been commonly con
Miscellaneous. sidered as a boundary stone, which its position
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC. cannot warrant: it is circular in shape, and near four feet high, having a round hollow of dishlike
Those who, from knowing the active share always shape excavated on the top of it, and no doubt of taken by Mr. Wright in the proceedings of the Archæothe class above alluded to. It has been in the same
logical Association, and in the investigations carried place beyond the memory
on under its auspices in various parts of the country, of
and who, being aware that with such practical knowAlgernon Sidney. (Vol. v., p. 318.).— Niebuhr, ledge Mr. Wright conbines a very general acquaintance when a youth of eighteen, made quite a hero of with the antiquarian literature of the Continent geAlgernon Sidney :
nerally, have consequently anticipated that his new
book “ This day," said he, writing from Kiel, Dec. 6th,
The Celt, the Roman, and the Saxon : a His1794, " is the anniversary of Algernon Sidney's death tory of the early Inhabitants of Britain, down to the III years ago, and hence it is in my eyes a consecrated
Conversion of the Anglo-Saxons to Christianity : illusday, especially as I have just been studying his noble
trated by the Ancient Remains brought to Light by life again. May God preserve me from a death like
recent Research - would be a volume full of informhis; yet even with such a death the virtue and holiness ation, pleasantly served up on that recondite subof his life would not be dearly purchased. And now
the primeval antiquities of this country he is forgotten almost throughout the world, and
will not be disappointed. The work has been underhaps there are not fifty persons in all Germany who taken, as Mr. Wright informs us, for the purpose of have taken the pains to inform themselves accurately supplying a Manual of British Archæology; of renderabout his life and fortunes. Many may know his tion of Englishmen more generally to the past history
ing that science more popular; and of calling the attenname, many know him from his brilliant talents, but they formed the least part of his true greatness.”
of their country : and, with this latter view more parIn 1813, the late George Wilson Meadley, Esq., such objects as represent the classes or peculiar types
ticularly, is plentifully studded with engravings of all of Bishopwearmouth, the biographer of Dr. Paley, I with which it is necessary the student should make published Memoirs of Algernon Sidney.
himself acquainted. Mr. Wright discards altogether
E. H. A. the system of archæological periods which has been Edmund Bohun (Vol. v., pp. 539. 599.). – Mr. adopted by the antiquaries of the North, and has treated Rix bas been inquiring about this writer. Has it which they belonged ; in fact, to use his own words,
antiquarian objects simply according to the races to been noticed that he was licenser of the press in 1692 ? The book entitled
" has attempted to make archæology walk hand in hand
with history." We do not agree with Mr. Wright in "Observations historical and genealogical, in which this entire rejection of the systems which have been adthe originals of the emperors, kings, electors, and other vanced by Worsaae, Thomsen, and others; but we are